VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

All the same angles are shown in the ref watch video, this was just a YouTube short which had them all together.
I've only seen the clip posted by beforekeanetherewasrobson. I'll try and get a view of all the angles and see if my opinion changes.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3e32e0dx1go

Referees will announce any video assistant referee decisions to football supporters inside stadiums in England for the first time during the Carabao Cup semi-finals.
As part of a trial, referees will announce final decisions following a visit to the VAR pitchside monitor or when rulings are made on factual matters such as accidental handball by a goalscorer or offside offences where the attacker touches the ball.
 
“Elbow strike muscle memory” :lol: seeing as we’re dishing them out. I don’t have much of that muscle memory myself but I guarantee I could elbow an unsuspecting target if I wanted to. Anyone could. It’s easy. No idea why you mention combat sports. In combat sports you don’t get to elbow people who aren’t looking at you and have no clue they’re about to be elbowed. feck it. Might as well give that a :lol: too.

The bit in bold sounds like someone who's never thrown a punch. Even if he was trying to miss, which is a ridiculous assertion, it's still obviously dangerous as he might not have missed.

It was nice of Fury and Usyk to try to get the referee's attention so much in the big fight the other night, there's silly old me thinking they were trying to hit each other. :lol:
 
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The only way referees are going to crack down on it is if United score one using that tactic.
 
The Joelinton goal is identical to the one that Bournemouth had ruled out against Newcastle earlier in the season.
 
Bizarre that he's clearly smashed it in with his arm, and there's not a word about it. Cleared in seconds.
 
I can't respect a club or manager who doesn't call this shit out. It's literally a handball
 
Proof, if it was ever needed, that United are refereed and VAR’d differently to everyone else.

It’s an absolute disgrace that we are rinsed every week with inept, biased decisions yet others (especially the Scousers) get preferential treatment with calls/non-calls and there is NOT A SINGLE WORD raised anywhere about it.

United ruining 1990s and 2000s kids’ childhoods really is coming back to haunt us.
 
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Proof, if it was ever needed, that United are refereed and VAR’d differently to everyone else.

It’s an absolute disgrace that we are rinsed every week with inept, biased decisions yet others (especially the Scousers) get preferential treatment with call/non-calls.
The fact that the media doesn't bring it up or say anything. Despite the multiple replays shown is just comical. And then if it was us the slightest thing someone says something. I'll be the first to say this squad sucks but it's much harder when it's 12 v 11
 
The difference in standard for what is a foul for our players vs the opposition players is so ridiculous. You are allowed to go through our players but we can't even come near the opposition
 
Proof, if it was ever needed, that United are refereed and VAR’d differently to everyone else.

It’s an absolute disgrace that we are rinsed every week with inept, biased decisions yet others (especially the Scousers) get preferential treatment with call/non-calls and there is NOT A SINGLE WORD raised anywhere about it.

United ruining 1990s and 2000s kids childhoods really is coming back to haunt us.

Yup. And yet again 3 or 4 blatant fouls not getting called in our favour while we get punished for being too close to their players.
 
VAR said there wasn't enough evidence to overrule the goal. Except that camera angle that shows it missing his head by about three inches and hitting his arm. What a load of bollocks the whole thing is.
 
This is exactly what I mean when Amorim and Man Utd keep quite about decisions which could go 50 - 50 against us. It DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
 
I just can’t fathom how they looked at that and cleared it within seconds. Inept? Bent? I just don’t know anymore.

It's clear they didn't want to find anything wrong with it. We've seen plenty of occasions where every aspect of a goal is scrutinised.

But no, United are shit, of course it's a goal.
 
What constitutes all the slow mo reviews of a goal vs barely a glance? The handball goal didn’t even get a second of air time if Neville hadn’t of raised it.
 
That’s a foul by Amad apparently. Which is funny because I distinctly remember Rashford being denied a penalty for a similar barge which was worse because he was also sandwiched by the other player
 
If any Utd player did what Hall did to Antony there it'd be a yellow before we could blink.
 
Just watched the incident again with a cold head.

What? How was that second goal allowed? Anything below the shoulder is a handball and it came right off his upper arm (and above Martinez' head) :lol:

I mean Joelinton looked really sheepish.

Anyways obviously not to detract from our performance, we're miles away. But decisions like that don't help.
 
VAR needs to be an independent panel of referees/officials that are in no way connected to the PL refs.

This is borderline criminal stuff now.

They refuse to referee according to the laws and do so in ways to protect their mates.
 
Think it's obvious that var itself isn't the issue, just the idiots running it. Cameras can obviously be used to get things right they just have no desire to do their job properly. The goal in the palace game i think it was with the blatant keeper interference should've been an easy overturn. Instead they are to inept to do their job properly
 
Criminal second goal allowed to stand. Games can ebb and flow, lots of games have seen teams lose 1st half to win in the end.

Decisions like this cause damage it’s very clear on replay that it’s handball. So why it gets given?