After reviewing the penalty shout they should’ve shown the one wham were awarded against us earlier this season
Farcical at times, these decisions
Farcical at times, these decisions
VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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We got a pen against us for a far less contact by De Ligt against WHU.
He's obviously wumming.
I have no problem with that not being given by the on-field ref, and then the bar not being high-enough for a review. That's fine, if that's what we're doing now. I actually like that as an approach to VAR.
But that's demonstrably not how VAR has worked against us this sesaon.
Decisions can't and don't need to be consistent. But the application of the rules should be. And it's not.
But that's demonstrably not how VAR has worked against us this sesaon.
Decisions can't and don't need to be consistent. But the application of the rules should be. And it's not.
“not in a game like this”, what about last season when City got the softest penalty ever from VAR?
Gallagher is an absolute tool here, glad he's been laughed at.
It's a fecking joke that Var hasn't looked at that and gone clear pen.
Just as well as your VAR in England isn't as bad as it is in Scotland.
That's either incompetent (because if any of the foul is on the line it is a penalty) or biased.
That's either incompetent (because if any of the foul is on the line it is a penalty) or biased.
He's literally looking at the guy who's standing on the line of box with his shirt being pulled and saying it's outside. What the feck?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c80vg3r2n1yo
At least refs in Scotland own up to it we have dickheads like Gallagher claiming the refs got it right.
Utd one will be glossed over (again)
At least refs in Scotland own up to it we have dickheads like Gallagher claiming the refs got it right.
Utd one will be glossed over (again)
I’m interested to see if Howard Webb covers it. I think Gallagher is a bit of a litmus test for Webb’s stance. It seems that any time Webb is going to class a decision as bad/false, Gallagher has already done the same ahead of him.
I’m 99% sure PGMOL installed Gallagher at Sky to run defence so I think they coordinate.
Its time for a stop clock.
Unwatchable
Unwatchable
Say what you want about VAR but I do like to have at least a chance of a second look at a blatant foul if that was overlooked live. The implementation is shit but the idea is useful.
and people do not want VAR, are you kidding me?
easy fouls they can not detect without VAR, how are we going to run a league without VAR with these donkey refs?
easy fouls they can not detect without VAR, how are we going to run a league without VAR with these donkey refs?
Then we see a blatant penalty at weekend checked on var and not given. The referees are incompetent to a degree that undermine the entire sport.
Yes but the spurs 4th goal would have been disallowed on VAR no matter how inept the referees are.
Many football fans don't like VAR but situations like this tonight is why I'm for it. Yes implementation should be better but getting rid of VAR isn't the anser imo.
That's debatable. It probably wouldn't have reached the threshold for intervention.
However last night Arsenal's second goal would have been disallowed for offside and Liverpool would have been down to 10 men and given away a dangerous free kick on the edge of the box with 4/5 min of added time to play.
10+ years overdue. Time wasting is a scourge.
I agree with this. English referees are awful.
Need a stopped clock in added time. Spurs were rewarded for going down without contact twice, then clattering Mainoo and standing in front of the ball. Maybe 2 minutes total that the ball was in play of the 6 added. Felt the ref favored us probably the first 75 minutes, but the last 15 and added time he was shocking helping Spurs see it out.
The problem has never been VAR, it's been with the way it's been implemented here, which is so bad it's bordering on deliberate sabotage.
PGMOL is an old boys club, and they don't want to cede any of their power, which is why we've got the same awful referees running it and doing so in a way to protect their own reputations rather than trying to get decisions right. It's the same thing with the various PR inserts at Sky, with Dermot Gallagher talking himself in knots to defend the indefensible.
I hate var. Even if they would have overturned that mistake tonight, it's still not worth all the problems it brings.
There wasnt enough in it for it to be fairly ruled out
Yep, we'd be up in arms if we had a goal disallowed for that.
Honestly, when was the last time you can genuinely say we got the run of the green with a ref?
I think Bayindir should have done much better, but the ref also bottled a big decision there.
Add on to that Dias vs Hojlund last game, Bruno red vs Tottenham, De Ligt vs West Ham.
Don't meant to sound RAWKish but in generally seems like we are om the wrong end of howlers from refs all the time and never really get a favourable decision in our favour. The ref was shocking all game today.
I think Bayindir should have done much better, but the ref also bottled a big decision there.
Add on to that Dias vs Hojlund last game, Bruno red vs Tottenham, De Ligt vs West Ham.
Don't meant to sound RAWKish but in generally seems like we are om the wrong end of howlers from refs all the time and never really get a favourable decision in our favour. The ref was shocking all game today.
Pun intended?
100%. Couldn’t give a shit about tonight’s mistake if we could have started the season without VAR in every game. That would have been a huge improvement overall.
no, but I'll now claim itwhen son was waling to talk the corner it was 86:xx. By the time the game restarted after their goal the clock was 90:30. On top of that bissouma fell for a couple of minutes, 4 goals went in, multiple subs made and they were all time wasting the last 20 mins. How if wad only 6 minutes is Ludacris. This on top of their cheating in extra time. The refs were horrendous today.
6 minutes.
Liverpool got 9 minutes at the weekend when they were chasing a goal when literally NOTHING happened in that half. They got 6 in the first half too when sod all happened. 15 minutes extra time!
Not all of them. That Coote guy was okay.
Better linesman than referee
Yes with or without VAR they are dreadful and showing no signs of improving.
Didn’t see the game but watched post match goals on sky.
I don’t think spurs 4th goal should be disallowed.
Bayandir too weak and missed the ball anyway.
If that was chalked off against us even with var I’d be upset.
How he fuxking missed it in the first place should be the major concern for us.
I don’t think spurs 4th goal should be disallowed.
Bayandir too weak and missed the ball anyway.
If that was chalked off against us even with var I’d be upset.
How he fuxking missed it in the first place should be the major concern for us.
In fairness a lot of that time was our goalie running round ranting.
Reading your post it doesn't really seem to me like you watched it.
If a player is running and someone puts their leg across to stop the player's leg from going forward you would call it "tripping someone", so this is similar but with the arm.
He's literally in the process of raising his arms to catch the ball when the Spurs player flies past and stops Bayindir's left arm from coming up to make the catch. How you can claim to have seen the goal but come away with the question "How could he miss it in the first place?" shows you've not really looked at what's supposed to be a foul, in which case I can understand your disappointment if that had been disallowed for any team.
Far too weak and his positioning and movement under the ball was awful.
If he held his original position he has a chance to move forward and claim it, but he moves under it and is then trying to go backwards under the ball when the Spurs player jumps into him. Looked to me that even without the contact he's struggling to get there.
I can see how Bayindir missed the ball. He has his hands together going up as one. As his left arm is pulled down breaking the contact between his hands, his right arm shoots up and you can see him 'correct' this by bringing it down and missing the ball.
You can say it's weak, and it might be, but it's understandable and a clear foul.
You can say it's weak, and it might be, but it's understandable and a clear foul.
I am 100% sure it would have been ruled out… was it a bit weak? Yes.
But interfere with the gk hands in the situation shouldnt be allowed