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VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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I guess this is what you live for after 20 years and likely still counting come May. Thankfully not that long yet for United.
Does anyone know the rules on the following situation regarding the VAR protocols?
In today's Porto match, they got a penalty, but the VAR called the ref to watch the replay. When the ref got to the screen there was a technical issue and there was no image. The ref then relied on what the VAR said and said no penalty without seeing the images. It was a clear dive by the way, never a penalty.
Porto is now asking for the match to be replayed because the ref couldn't revert the decision without seeing the images. Is Porto just clutching at straws here or do the rules say this is the case?
In today's Porto match, they got a penalty, but the VAR called the ref to watch the replay. When the ref got to the screen there was a technical issue and there was no image. The ref then relied on what the VAR said and said no penalty without seeing the images. It was a clear dive by the way, never a penalty.
Porto is now asking for the match to be replayed because the ref couldn't revert the decision without seeing the images. Is Porto just clutching at straws here or do the rules say this is the case?
I'm a simple man, I'm happy when my team beats a rival and I'm sad when they lose to a rival.
VAR for penalty calls and red cards only.
Yes, Antony does it to try and convince people he's faster than my gran.
My opinion has always been that rule changes should only be implemented if you can do so all the way down to grass roots. The back pass rule, for example. A wonderful rule change that improved football immeasurably.
VAR is a load of bollocks. It's made the sport worse without a shadow of a doubt.
VAR is a load of bollocks. It's made the sport worse without a shadow of a doubt.
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It genuinely makes me want to vomit.
Maybe I look at the image of the defender and see if that works. He’s not a fecking contortionist
What's the Arsenal equivalent of Redcafe? Is it any good?
Never understood why anyone would be on a rival forum after a big win. I picture them as those fans who are seated by the stewarts and throw the middle finger to the away end after every goal.
You know what Fergies favourite thing he said over decisions. 'It all evens itself out over a season'. Without VAR Arsenal would have had a pen and they may have been 2-1 earlier and the game would have been different. VAR gets more right than wrong overall.
It’s an interesting one because at first I thought no pen…..then I thought what if he doesn’t have the covering defender as close (which makes no difference to whether it’s a foul) ie if he didn’t have another defender there….that’s a penalty all day long.
No idea, I'm not a member of any other forum. Arsenal-mania, maybe?
I logged in to take a look at the CE forum and came here to have a look, no idea why you think it's weird.
Without VAR this would almost guaranteed have been ruled offside by the linesman. Then everyone would have cried out for VAR being used in offside situations, until VAR also deemed it offside.
I think every fanbase, including our own, is guilty of playing victim with VAR and blaming everything on it when things go wrong. I firmly do believe these things balance out over the season. That being said, Arsenal have now gotten that crucial penalty at Palace where Partey fouled someone, got a goal from a foul on Evans today, and had a Rice handball in another tight game vs Forest that probably should have been a penalty. They're getting the rub of the green right now.
Arsenal's 2nd goal should be a foul but British VAR would never overturn it. It was not clear error, either ref call it or they don't. Anthony Taylor is just a cnut.
In the last world cup they VAR'ed shirt pulling during corner kick many times.
In the last world cup they VAR'ed shirt pulling during corner kick many times.
How is Hojlund's penalty not given? It cant be more obvious than this.
Wouldn’t the linesman have put his flag up at the end of that phase of play if he thought Garnacho was off?
First, the "penalty" on Havertz - I'm not sure how he pulls it back and doesn't book Havertz for a dive? He hasn't been touched - so if it's not a penalty, it must be a dive.
Saka on Bruno was a red card all day long. Two footed, off the ground, ball is gone. Nasty one that Casemiro would've been sent off and banned 3 matches for committing.
The offside decision is unbelievable - measuring from Garnacho's hand and the defender's shoulder when his head is obviously further along. Nothing whatsoever clear and obvious about that even with the dubious lines drawn. They're just making it up as they go. Especially in light of the goal City scored yesterday... but United get all the decisions.
Hojlund I didn't think was a penalty in real time, but I've got no clue how the VAR didn't look at that. It's as blatant as it gets on replay.
The foul on Evans was more of a foul than Onana against Wolves. Outcry for one, no one cares for the second. Funny how that works. He's likely not even in the place to deflect it past Onana if he's not dragged there. It's shit defending to leave Rice open at the back post and allow him to take that sort of touch and still get a shot away - but there'd have been an inquisition if United had scored that goal.
We've been on the receiving end of maybe one dubious call this season and been the victim of plenty that have changed games. Who knows how the Spurs game changes if we take the lead and the decisions today are tough to see as anything but 3 full points lost. The standard of refereeing has been absolutely shocking this season around the league. I'm not sure what PGMOL are getting at. Are they trying to get VAR dumped to put the decisions back in their hands? At absolute minimum they've got to start explaining decisions. It's how it works in nearly every other instance of sport where there's replay.
Saka on Bruno was a red card all day long. Two footed, off the ground, ball is gone. Nasty one that Casemiro would've been sent off and banned 3 matches for committing.
The offside decision is unbelievable - measuring from Garnacho's hand and the defender's shoulder when his head is obviously further along. Nothing whatsoever clear and obvious about that even with the dubious lines drawn. They're just making it up as they go. Especially in light of the goal City scored yesterday... but United get all the decisions.
Hojlund I didn't think was a penalty in real time, but I've got no clue how the VAR didn't look at that. It's as blatant as it gets on replay.
The foul on Evans was more of a foul than Onana against Wolves. Outcry for one, no one cares for the second. Funny how that works. He's likely not even in the place to deflect it past Onana if he's not dragged there. It's shit defending to leave Rice open at the back post and allow him to take that sort of touch and still get a shot away - but there'd have been an inquisition if United had scored that goal.
We've been on the receiving end of maybe one dubious call this season and been the victim of plenty that have changed games. Who knows how the Spurs game changes if we take the lead and the decisions today are tough to see as anything but 3 full points lost. The standard of refereeing has been absolutely shocking this season around the league. I'm not sure what PGMOL are getting at. Are they trying to get VAR dumped to put the decisions back in their hands? At absolute minimum they've got to start explaining decisions. It's how it works in nearly every other instance of sport where there's replay.
I'm not sure, perhaps. I just think in such a situation a linesman would much more often than not call the offside, considering it's the safe option. You see that with refs all the time.
So you’re just making it up. Right
Offside looked like a horse racing dead heat to me.
Still not seen a replay of penalty call.
All pointless now anyway.
Still not seen a replay of penalty call.
All pointless now anyway.
That's an extremely low bar you're setting. For a team of full time professionals. In a quiet studio with all the technology and multiple angles.
Scrap VAR now. We've seen what it has to offer and the pros do not outweigh the cons, not by a long way.
Tell me its not a penalty ?
Post above yours.
it’s not apparently you can now do these things and it’s absolutely acceptable.”it’s a physical game these things happen”
Seen it, not sure it is tbh.
A human adds the points to make the lines by the way. I think it was off side though, just. Fifa use an automated offside system which the PL for some reason have not adopted.
You could not complain if this is given as a pen. No attempt to play the ball and took the player down with his arm around him
feck me that's a stonewall penalty. Didn't think it was in real time and Sky didn't even bother to show a replay but now I understand why ten Hag thought it was in his post match interview. Ridiculous.
crazy stuff
Penalty any day of the year, especially with that bearhug. Gabriel was being turned inside out and was never playing the ball at all.
But, of course, you can't piss off that ape-faced loser Martin Keown twice in 8 days because he would throw feces all over the BBC studio if it was called.
You missed it because they didn't show a single replay during the game and VAR checked it in seconds and made a decision. Only showed a replay after the game because Ten Hag bought it up.
That is exactly what was weird during the live broadcast. You'd normally have replays after the next whistle, but there was none at all and until AFTER the match.
United players probably need to be more vociferous in the future and make a big deal about it at the next instance of the whistle being blown. Its the kind of pressure that can make a referee go and look at the screen for a decision he otherwise might not have considered at all.
another Old Trafford decision
This has happened quite a few times in United games.
Cheers - the type of handball I don’t really think should be a penalty but is more or less always given under current laws. Just so irritating that they can’t be consistent.