Admitting that Rashford the situation was a mistake. "Referees' body PGMOL has acknowledged the VAR incidents at Man Utd vs Aston Villa on Sunday was a mistake. Rashford penalty claim was not given as a penalty, and should not have been reviewed by VAR say Howard Webb. Webb intends to speed up reviewing process further in certain games when or if it benefits the league."
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Eh? What are they saying here? The mistake was in reviewing that decision at all?
It's not real. It's a joke. Don't expect seeing a real apology so take this
You can't even make this up.
Man Utd 1-0 Aston Villa
Match officials
Referee: Jarred Gillett. Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, Harry Lennard. Fourth official: Darren England. VAR: Michael Oliver.
What the feck?
Rashford is a penalty along with numerous other we have be denied this year McTominays , Casemiro's and AWB (which we have never seen at arsenal). Facts commentators stated Rashford instigated the contact which is total nonsense. Players until pressure in their own half, stop so the opposition run into the back of them , they fall over and Ref gives a foul 99% of time and this happens in every game about 5 times each half . So my call is none of these are fouls if Rashford isn't a penalty.
Don't do that to them, they are convinced VAR is out to get them this season.
There are more threads since VAR started in the PL about refereeing decisions than there were before it came into play which means it’s a failure and should not be used for judgement calls like fouls or even handballs and should only be used for offsides at this point. No matter how the tech evolves it still comes down to a human judging a call even if it’s in slow mo and everyone sees things differently. It’s slowing things down and causing controversy every other match. Before VAR we bitched and moaned about calls but got over it but now it’s just tedious.
Yeah it's a joke that Michael Oliver is getting any games which involves top 4 race teams. it's just pathetic how nothing is written about this in media, sellouts.
A replay of Ronaldo’s Saudi team was on the news the other day - Ronaldo was carded. The ref was Michael Oliver. I didn’t know they were taking side jobs in other countries. I don’t know why the Premier League doesn’t do the same
Yeah, not sure how this is allowed.
Precisely. I find it strange how many people can’t see this. It seems so obvious.
I mean, it's made up.......
You won’t hear anything about ours?
Does anyone have a replay of the yellow card Kristiansen got at the end of our game? I swear it was actually Maddison that made the foul...
Absolutely spot on. I'd like to see it ditched altogether but we know it won't be so only for offsides should it be used. Even then some of form of automation so we don't get the long delays.
I'm curious as to why. Going back would be to accept that football refereeing has no ambition to keep up with the game. VAR is a tool and further development of refereeing standards should be the main priority. The refs and the men in places clearly don't want VAR or improvement in football so they make it annoying for the watchers, to deflect the pressure it puts on them to improve their standards. VAR is highlighting a lot of flawed practices that needs reviewing, for the sake of the integrity of the game. The competition aspect of football is barely alive with the likes of City cheating financially for years, so if we can't even trust that decisions on the pitch have an ounce of integrity and consistency what is left but entertainment, money and media narratives? That's far more detrimental to football than the fear of change.
Apart from being poorly implemented, I don't like the way it's taken the emotion out of the game. Waiting for minutes to celebrate a goal is soul destroying.
I don't think the lengthy stoppages suit football as it does in other sports.
I also think it's added more unnecessary drama to the game and refs now see it as a tool to implement their narrative/influence games rather than a tool to reach the correct decisions.
How can anyone watch Liverpool games and think they aren't favoured by the refs? Are people actually blind?
Almost every fecking decision goes their way, it's unwatchable anymore.
Almost every fecking decision goes their way, it's unwatchable anymore.
I wish just one manager would speak out about it, its been like this a while. The media love in with Liverpool will never talk about it but as soon as United get a 50/50 decision the scousers come out in full force with the Howard Webb shite. Its just boring now.
So this went to VAR and they still said penalty...
Wait what?!?!
I swear we would never get that pen in a million years. See the Weghorst one for example.Not getting the outrage for that one and I love calling those cnuts out. That's a penalty and an easy one to give.
Defender is a fecking clown.
Defender is a fecking clown.
VAR can feck right off.
That's never a penalty in a million years. Nunez is barely touched and he clearly makes a meal of it.
Defender went to kick the ball, Nunez nicks it and is already falling over. Defender pulls his foot back and Nunez seems to hit nothing but air. Not sure how you can see that as a genuine penalty call.
I naively thought that there's no way VAR doesn't take that away. Absolutely ridiculous and this high bar bullshit just encourages players to take a dive. If VAR doesn't take that one away, hard to see it ever taking a penalty away. Howard Webb has somehow made VAR way worse than it was.
Doesn't matter if it's barely touched. Idiot defender is swinging a wild leg out and catches him.
Swinging leg makes zero contact with Nunez, only contact happens because Nunez jumps to his lap.
Looks like the defender clips him with his knee from the last angle. Soft but its a pen
Anyone remember when Rashford was clipped by the out-rushing Bazunu's leg and it wasn't a pen? I member.
Yes. It was a clear pen
And people wonder why people think there's a good chance Liverpool will win every game between now and the end of the season.
Shit like this just happens for them.
Shit like this just happens for them.
on-field call.
i remember your theory was that on-field referees were scared to make decisions since they thought var would cover them... well, here they are in their decision-making glory.
Nunez deliberately stretched his left leg out to get the contact. Nothing Diop can do to get out of the way. It's at best you can describe it as coming to together from defender's position. It's 100% a dive by Nunez.
Disagree. Nunez right foot avoids the outstretched leg of the defender from when he swang, which is why his left stretches back to counter balance. Difference of opinion I guess but seems to me if Nunez wanted to dive he just runs into the defenders leg which is swung right infront of him.
It’s a decision that wouldn’t bother me in the slightest pre-VAR. Looked nailed on in real time. So is one of those rare occasions when VAR could help justify all the shit we put up with since it’s been implemented. But oh no…
He literally wouldn't be able to because Diop withdraws his leg before Nunez gets there.
Begs the question, if contact is no longer needed for fouls, how far away can you be and still get the decision? A yard? 10 yards? If flinching because you’re expecting some contact that never arrives counts as a foul then why not?