no one here is defending roy moore. why would that be an interesting topic?
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no one here is defending roy moore. why would that be an interesting topic?
But the party and the president is backing him, that's a big fecking deal. Plus conservatives especially in red states will vote republicans over democrats no matter what, so expect Moore to win. No one is defending him on this forum but as you know all too well we are all bleeding heart liberal snowflakes in here, but it's very interesting to know how the Republican party and president will react when an accused child molester gets elected over a guy who successfully prosecuted one of the worst hate crimes in the country at the time just because of a political agenda.
I was thinking last night, is this what our future will be? I came to the conclusion that it is like the 60's.
Civil rights and everything that came with it and a revolution of men and women saying no to the continuation of unwanted sexual abuse and advances.
I said sexual harassment, not assault so get that right pal. And I have never seen anyone get a jail sentence for what Franken did. Other punishments like the sex register loss of employment and a public shaming most definitely. This would all involve the reporting of the incident to the police and the outcome of an investigation. Not a few press conferences and a public trial on social media.
I didn't write that post. Did I?
It's not being done for the sake of decency. It's a PR move.
How did you do that?
Are you editing my posts Eboue?
He's trolling.
There's obviously going to be a strong PR element to it but it's still an inherently decent thing to do.
He's a fecking fake. He just took a few lines from my post, edited it to speak to his agenda, replied and agreed. What a fake poster, sad.
Can't handle a bit of horse play? Maybe you should get down from that high horse of yours
That really is not just a Republucan notion though is it.
Oh feck, which politician has been accused by a horse now?
That's where we disagree. It should not be this easy to remove an elected official from office, and the process of removal shouldn't be dependent on how partisan the official's party is.
Removing officials from power should be fair. Resignation prevents the public from knowing what exactly happened. It deprives the accused of due process. It prevents the victims' stories from being vetted and validated or discredited as needed.
Removing officials from power should be impartial to any side. The idea that a government process would arbitrarily side with one side because of a twitter campaign is scary.
Removing officials from power should be immune from PR. In an ideal situation, a Bob Menendez would be facing similar calls for removal, as allegations of misconduct were deemed sufficient enough by a jury to be brought to trial. But bribery isn't as sexy in the news as sexual misconduct today.
My position on Moore has shifted, but ultimately, if the voters of Alabama determine that he should represent them in the Senate, that should not be subverted by a PR campaign (that the Republicans will obviously ignore). Same with Trump. The impeachment process should suffice to remove them if there is substantial evidence of misconduct, not the number of accusers. Democrats choosing to do otherwise isn't decent, it's bowing to media/public pressure, which is inherently pointless in this climate.
No idea, but they mustn't be a stable individual
Fun fact: the Dark Ages is a misnomer. Historians have largely abandoned the notion of the fall of the Western Roman Empire as some centuries long descent into madness and chaos and the total abandonment of western civilization (although it did have a little bit of chaos, to be fair).
This was your history fact of the day.
You can't reuse history facts of the day (you've done this before
). Come up with another one.Also, I'd argue that Western Europe retrograded for 1-2 centuries following the demise of the Western Roman Empire. The Byzantines were fine.
Whats this all about ?
You can't reuse history facts of the day (you've done this before
I have? Shit. I guess I've run out of original material.
Yeah that seems fair. Still, there wasn't a whole lot of stability in the last century or two of the Western Roman Empire, so it's swings and roundabouts really.
The true Dark Ages were the centuries following the Bronze Age collapse.
Denied some and claims to remember the others differently.
Pretty sure Someone is quoting my post and not just editing a word or two but whole sentences then replying "agreed" to something I never said. Maybe horseplay as I'm told but not really fair to do that with a valid discussion in this thread.
Yes, Franken had to go. He admitted one allegation (the first), and that should be enough. And maybe in (at least some) other cases, he didn't behave appropriately.
Besides, the fact that A is not doing the right thing doesn’t mean that B shouldn’t do the right thing. It's like saying "this guy is driving 70 mph in a road with a speed limit of 50 mph, so why can't I do the same?..."
Having seen Franken's speech, not sure he should have resigned. He definitely should have gone in front of an ethics committee which should have the made the call in the end. We saw quite recently the Alt-right do a hatchet job on Sam Seder and I wouldn't be surprised to see more examples like this happening.
Well it would be like a lawyer using a previous judgement on another case as a form of defence which happens.
Well it would be like a lawyer using a previous judgement on another case as a form of defence which happens.
This world is hell #561
Tax bill could make 'dark money' political contributions tax deductible
Tax bill could make 'dark money' political contributions tax deductible
what a toolWhat's wrong with his face? Is that a natural look or has he suffered from a stroke or some other incident?
Right-wing sphere spreading lies. None have issued a clarification or correction though Fox News did change a key point in the story but never announced such.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-moore-accuser-didnt-tamper-or-forge-yearboo/
No, Roy Moore accuser didn't admit she forged his signature in her yearbook
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-moore-accuser-didnt-tamper-or-forge-yearboo/
No, Roy Moore accuser didn't admit she forged his signature in her yearbook
Did anyone mention this yet?
In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last "great" -- Moore acknowledged the nation's history of racial divisions, but said: "I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another.... Our families were strong, our country had a direction."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/roy-moore-slavery/index.html
In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last "great" -- Moore acknowledged the nation's history of racial divisions, but said: "I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another.... Our families were strong, our country had a direction."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/roy-moore-slavery/index.html
I'd probably consider some serious shady shit if offered $5 million.