I watched that segment last night. The woman is unhinged but it is a common thinking in the South (even though she's from Ohio). They're so entrenched in an ideology.
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@berbatrick
This is a good read on the race and it would help explain why Russian backed accounts would be interested as the progressive wing went against the "establishment" backed candidate (who narrowly won).
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/atlanta-mayor-race-keisha-lance-bottoms-mary-norwood/
This is a good read on the race and it would help explain why Russian backed accounts would be interested as the progressive wing went against the "establishment" backed candidate (who narrowly won).
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04/atlanta-mayor-race-keisha-lance-bottoms-mary-norwood/
GOP kicks Chuck Grassley off tax bill after revealing their disdain for working class
https://shareblue.com/gop-kicks-chu...er-revealing-their-disdain-for-working-class/
https://shareblue.com/gop-kicks-chu...er-revealing-their-disdain-for-working-class/
Franken is about to resign
He has just announced that.
Franken. You utter moron.
Franken: "There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party."
He has a point, if Franken was in the GOP, no way would be he resigning.
Going out as a bit of a martyr then, looking to highlight how his party is different.
And it's a fecking stupid sword to die on (and that's putting it lightly).
I don't understand. Are you saying he shouldn't have resigned or that he he shouldn't have made the comparsion?
Taking the high road is pointless here. Trump won't resign. Moore will, barring a miracle, be sworn in as a U.S. senator.
I think this should have gone to an ethics panel. But even as he is in his right to resign, no one gives a feck about moral victories here. Yeah, this will make Moore and Trump resign. Well done Democrats.
Franken should have stayed where he was. All this we are cleaner than the Republicans will not register that much with the voters
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What on earth
I'd put good money on that Republican politician being caught in the photocopier room with the Mexican intern's member in his mouth within the next few months.
I agree that explicitly (by stating so) taking the high road is pointless. I take it you agree also that if the findings of the ethics panel (are whatever due process there is for a thing like this) turn out to be negative then he's out. So if he is just preempting this outcome I see nothing wrong with resigning at this point.
Democrats that have called for him to go obvs. are in a different position as they look like folding under public pressure without due process.
Franken made a big mistake here. Scored an own goal. Moral high ground is meaningless. It won't change anyone's minds. Again this is the Democrats being outmaneuvered and falling right into the trap the Republicans wanted. If he or the Democrat leadership thinks this will somehow keep Moore from being a senator they are delusional.
I don't think Franken wanted to go, but he had no choice. @berbatrick, do you support Franken's resignation? I'm sure the vocal Jill Stein voter here called for his resignation.
I don't think that is their intent at all. I would hope it is to do the right thing. Don't lower your standards because others do.
I did as well. I wish he went sooner.
I don't think that this is plausible, it's probably more long term thinking involved in that they try to show some integrity. Also shortsighted imo is to only look at what it does to swing Republicans because turning out one's own base is important too.
Would be hillarious for the Repubs if Keith Ellison gets the job.
Then they should have conducted an ethics investigation as Franken first called for and been patient. Even the 'victim' said she doesn't think he should resign. This incident, while distasteful, is not even in the same league as Roy Moore's pattern of predatory behavior and also Franken was not even a public official at the time but a comedian. I am still not convinced this isn't a set-up to some degree considering the timing and the discrepancies in the meta data not matching the lady's exact claims.
Yes. With that one weird allegation it was different, now there are 8 different ones!
What on earth
I'd put good money on that Republican politician being caught in the photocopier room with the Mexican intern's member in his mouth within the next few months.
Yeah, you could cut the sexual tension with a knife.
At least six potential incidents at this point.
I don't care if he was a comedian at the time. What does that matter?
If you mean Franken has six legitimate accusers now then I didn't know that and that's fair. Last I heard his female staffers came out signing a letter saying he treated them with respect so I was a bit suspicious of that photo charge not being taken out of context.
Yeah, Franken staying in office would have kept Democratic voters at home. Against this administration.
It would be hilarious if it wasn't tragic.
I think it is 7 actually. The original plus 6 others. Having said that I thought he shoudl go after the first.
The problem is the first accuser was not vetted, unlike the 8 Roy Moore accusers that CNN vetted, and there were a lot of inconsistencies in the stories. Additionally the same standards need to be applied equally.
This can't just turn into a witch hunt where all you need is someone to accuse a Democrat rightly or wrongly and they resign while Republicans just deny and no ethics investigation occurs. Roy Moore's accusers have been vetted enough that their claims have a foundation. I have not seen the accusations against Franken have such truth established about them. There needs to be a process to vet claims to ensure truth and then penalties. This should apply to everyone.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...lt-accusations-john-ziegler-column/886722001/
Playing dirty doesn't work for the Dems.
The Republicans are steeped in hypocrisy.
The Republicans are steeped in hypocrisy.
Has Franken denied the claims?
It also is possible to sexually harass some women but not others.
Trent Franks resigns to avoid a harrassment investigation. Good riddance.
Good
Power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately.
Jesus Christ are we seeing this first hand!
Jesus Christ are we seeing this first hand!
Not going to mention names, but it is interesting & concerning that some high profile US politicians have been relatively silent on the sexual abuse scandal.
Their time will come...