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If the reason is 'the deficit', I'm afraid the word **** is the only accurate description. They have just seen exactly how much the opposition, the public at large, and Wall Street itself cares about the deficit.

Reading that Durbin voted against the bill for procedural reasons, so that he could bring back the amendment at a later date.

Warner & Carper voted against it because they dont agree with the amendment.
 
Reading that Durbin voted against the bill for procedural reasons, so that he could bring back the amendment at a later date.

Warner & Carper voted against it because they dont agree with the amendment.

Ya saw the same thing. Collins voted for!
 
For years the GOP and it's hate talk and faux news contingent has mislead the public on the ACA being passed "fast" when it took nearly 18 months of arguing and whanot, with both sides having had time to review, make recommendations, etc. Yet here is the GOP pushing a major legislation as fast as possible while trying to cram bullshit through.
 
Just when you think the shite cant get any worse, then comes the GOP Tax Bill. If this doesn make everyone cynical of politicians.
Zero hearings on something that affects everyone in the country and when the crash comes, the rest of the world. They should be jailed for this.
 
This is just so wrong.


There is nothing that you can do with that. All Dems need to do is to go to vote... and hope for a miracle!

The aftermath of the Access Hollywood tape is the GOP catalyst moving forward: deny, attack the accusers and the media. GOP leaders start with "this is beyond the pale" and then they move on.
 
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Interesting segment on NPR I heard this afternoon. There's a nine-minute audio link in the link below, well worth listening too.

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/03/5682...s-who-support-trump-face-an-ethical-challenge

Evangelical Leaders Say Christians Who Support Trump Face An Ethical Challenge

Two evangelical Christian leaders, Jim Wallis and Hershael York, speak with NPR's Michel Martin about what they see as a crisis of spirituality in the current political climate.
 
There is nothing that you can do with that. All Dems need to do is to go to vote... and hope for a miracle!

The aftermath of the Access Hollywood tape is the GOP catalyst moving forward: deny, attack the accusers and the media. GOP leaders start with "this is beyond the pale" and then they move on.

Its just so messed up. People have become so brainwashed that they're willing to excuse sexual abuse/paedophilia because of identity politics.
 
FFS. New Hillary story breaking on CNN that the FBI guy who was fired over the weekend, watered down Comey's language when he testified that Hillary was innocent.
 
FFS. New Hillary story breaking on CNN that the FBI guy who was fired over the weekend, watered down Comey's language when he testified that Hillary was innocent.

Well it's a bloody good job the deplorables aren't going to believe it as it's on FAKE NEWS CNN, right?
 
Well it's a bloody good job the deplorables aren't going to believe it as it's on FAKE NEWS CNN, right?

This will suck up all the oxygen on Fox and Talk Radio and no doubt Trump and Bannon will make a massive meal out of it.
 
Don't be mad this story is coming out.

This is what the US needs to stop making the same mistakes again and again. She was no good. Trump is immeasurably worse of course, but that election was the one that put the country in a no-win position.

She would right now be facing impeachment had she won. This was an election that led to a constitutional crisis whatever the result, because money and donors own both parties. You are at peak citizens united, it will destroy the US unless it is overturned.
 
Don't be mad this story is coming out.

This is what the US needs to stop making the same mistakes again and again. She was no good. Trump is immeasurably worse of course, but that election was the one that put the country in a no-win position.

She would right now be facing impeachment had she won. This was an election that led to a constitutional crisis whatever the result, because money and donors own both parties. You are at peak citizens united, it will destroy the US unless it is overturned.

I agree with all you have said. I’ve just read the article though and it’s not nearly as explosive as it sounds and certainly not the deal Fox and co are about to make of it.

It says that Comey and his team were being very careful with the language as to condemn her actions while make it clear that they are not reccomending pressing any charges.

So it was Comey’s direction to doctor the language to make it what they deemed appropriate for their reccomendations. After making the changes, it was validated by other members of the team.

They found out from the metadata that it was him that made the changes, I won’t be surprised if Comey testifies that he was following orders rather than it being a rogue agent quietly meddling where he shouldn’t.
 
Don't be mad this story is coming out.

This is what the US needs to stop making the same mistakes again and again. She was no good. Trump is immeasurably worse of course, but that election was the one that put the country in a no-win position.

She would right now be facing impeachment had she won. This was an election that led to a constitutional crisis whatever the result, because money and donors own both parties. You are at peak citizens united, it will destroy the US unless it is overturned.

The right wing media will blow this up but I don't think this was impeachment worthy offence in anyway. Statements undergo several changes during drafting process. Only the final statement matters as long as you can justify the language and terms used.
 
This is just so wrong.



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Unfortunately i had a conversation with my Trump supporting Mom (funnily enough, used to live in Alabama too) today who came over to the UK to visit Family, i asked her a few questions - "Would you still continue to support Trump if you find your taxes are going to be MORE than his promised tax cut for you?" she said "yup, i will support him no matter what" then she went off into a batshit insanity crap about liberal media and "Democrats are just obstructing Trump's cause and everything he stands for" then into quite a laughable statement of "You should see what he's done for the Economy, the *NFD* (she meant Stock markets?) going through the roof under Trump" to which i replied... "that is not how economics works, Thank you Obama" then i get accused of being Brainwashed and if i don't support the President then i shouldn't live in the United States because if you don't support the President you are not Patriotic and you should get out ... all i could do after that was laugh and shout this scene.



It basically goes to prove that Trump has his loyal core support no matter what, when you are that uneducated and brainwashed that you buy that much into his ideology of "fake news" and "liberal media" nothing will really derail his cult.

She even had a go at me for supporting Bernie and coming from someone who has lived in the UK herself seeing how the NHS works, she actually said "how are we going to afford all this social medical care, Schooling/Education" etc... like c'mon, Canada is right up there and you have seen the majority of it in bloody England.
 
Unfortunately i had a conversation with my Trump supporting Mom (funnily enough, used to live in Alabama too) today who came over to the UK to visit Family, i asked her a few questions - "Would you still continue to support Trump if you find your taxes are going to be MORE than his promised tax cut for you?" she said "yup, i will support him no matter what" then she went off into a batshit insanity crap about liberal media and "Democrats are just obstructing Trump's cause and everything he stands for" then into quite a laughable statement of "You should see what he's done for the Economy, the *NFD* (she meant Stock markets?) going through the roof under Trump" to which i replied... "that is not how economics works, Thank you Obama" then i get accused of being Brainwashed and if i don't support the President then i shouldn't live in the United States because if you don't support the President you are not Patriotic and you should get out ... all i could do after that was laugh and shout this scene.



It basically goes to prove that Trump has his loyal core support no matter what, when you are that uneducated and brainwashed that you buy that much into his ideology of "fake news" and "liberal media" nothing will really derail his cult.

She even had a go at me for supporting Bernie and coming from someone who has lived in the UK herself seeing how the NHS works, she actually said "how are we going to afford all this social medical care, Schooling/Education" etc... like c'mon, Canada is right up there and you have seen the majority of it in bloody England.


This is Trump's genius. The ability to hold on to his loyal supporters in spite of evidence showing his incompetence and untruths.
I bet even if Mueller finds Trump guilty of collusion and money laundering his fans will think it's a conspiracy to knock Trump off his perch.
 
Of course a sizeable percentage of the Trump base will hold firm no matter what, we've witnessed such devotion to a public figure in all walks of life, especially in religious and sports settings.

How many times has a known evangelical leader found him/herself in legal troubles for various charges/crimes? Even when being convicted and/or paying fines the flock take the leader back with the usual "he was lead on by the devil" or some shit. Yet, that pales in comparison to lower level evangelicals like your local pastors getting caught in numerous crimes across the gambit, only to be readily forgiven by the masses. Then there's the Catholic church and its base continually ignoring the problems within while giving more money to the Church. And finally, cults which technically all religions are IMO, that will follow their leader to death if necessary. It's no different with Trump especially with the massive evangelical following. fecking lemmings and sheep, the whole lot.
 
The top editor at a small-town newspaper in Alabama said his office would be shot at if his publication endorsed GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore's opponent. “I would have bullet holes in my windows,” Troy Turner, the top editor at the Opelika-Auburn News in eastern Alabama, said during an interviewwith The Washington Post.

Instead of endorsing Moore's Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, the paper last month wrote that "it’s time for Roy Moore to step aside for Alabama." The editorial said that the "damage is done."

:lol:
 
A suspected Pedophiile is about to win an election in the world's most advanced country.
It would be funny if it wasn't so concerning.