This will likely kill any chances Franken had of becoming a VP candidate. Out of all the names i've seen being bandied around, his name was regularly at the top of peoples preferred choice.
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Soon enough the only people who can make it into office will be GOP confirmed-and-proud sex offenders and Dem women.
That is false. One example is the Alaskan super delegate refusing to vote for Sanders, even though he won with 80% of the vote in the Alaskan caucus.
I believe he's talking about the superdelegates (as a collective) not going against the candidate with the most pledged delegates nationally, e.g. when they transferred to Obama in 08.
I think they have the potential to serve one useful purpose, namely stopping a Trump like demagogue getting they nomination, but given the likelihood of that scenario occurring given the Dem demographics and the toxicity that they now possess to a large portion of potential Dem voters, they'll need at least substantially cutting down to a fraction of their current size. But I think that's of fractional importance compared to sorting out proper and fair primaries in all states.
And another one.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progre...christian-lawmaker-resigns-sex-office-affair/
Married Christian Lawmaker Resigns After Same-Sex Office Affair
http://www.newsweek.com/republican-family-values-state-legislator-quits-sex-man-713821
A Republican 'Family Values' State Legislator Quits After Having Sex With a Man in His Office
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progre...christian-lawmaker-resigns-sex-office-affair/
Married Christian Lawmaker Resigns After Same-Sex Office Affair
http://www.newsweek.com/republican-family-values-state-legislator-quits-sex-man-713821
A Republican 'Family Values' State Legislator Quits After Having Sex With a Man in His Office
A consensual affair with another adult man is apparently the true line in the sand for the GOP, not molesting children. Good to know.
If that's the case, then fair enough.
Hopefully the "Unity Reform Commission" will come up with credible reform proposals relating to the presidential nomination process. They will be presenting their proposals/recommendations next month.
As Ubik said:
Agreed, the overly complicated primary process is just one big mess. I honestly don't see the reason to have all sorts of different arrangements in different states.
Al would of been a great Candidate but these allegations would ruin any hope, if the Dems want to distance themselves away from a Trump style Candidate at least.
Top 3 for me:
Elizabeth Warren
Joe Kennedy iii
Bernie Sanders
also very impressed by the other Kennedy in Caroline Kennedy...
The superdelegates can never be used to go against the popular vote, because it would self-destruct the party. What they can (and were last election) used for though is to provide a huge boost to a preferred candidate, and to pour cold water on others chances.
Last election many major news channels were reporting on the primary using declared superdelegates votes in the totals. So even when Sanders was neck and neck on actual delegates, much of the media were showing him well behind because of the superdelegates. When the public see someone seemingly well behind, they can be put off voting. Why bother if the big name is going to win anyway right?
They did that in 2008 too, didn’t change the end result.
The superdelegates simply have to go. No matter how they are described it sounds bad. They either look superior (1 person getting a vote vs. millions getting a vote), undermine the vote by being able to go against the majority, have no function, or they try to influence the dumb electorate. Anyhow, they proved they are crap as a collective by pushing Hilary as the runner. If these people are the self-proclaimed experts they should have recognized Hilary's baggage and faults and told her to not run in the first place.
Another person with the groundless assumption that Sanders would have won.
Lol, it is you making assumptions! Gawd knows how you came to that conclusion based on my post.
Like it or not, Hillary is/was everything the DNC wanted as the president, not some outsider like Sanders who tried to hikack their party.
But for 80k votes or so, those super delegates will have got everything they wanted in 2016.
It should not have been close. Anyone should be able to beat Trump. She was a terribly flawed candidate and should never have run. If she didn't run I believe there would have been other good candidates coming forward.
This is true, in the end. The most damaging thing was the clearing of the field.
I dont recall the same number of superdelegates coming out before the race had even started for Clinton in 2008.
The early and unidirectional endorsements from superdelegates in 2016 is unprecedented in history.
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Better a child molester than a Democrat. The family values party everybody.
The cognitive dissonance is staggering.
They hate liberals for supporting such shocking behaviour as same sex marraige yet when one of their own forces himself on young girls... we can turn a blind eye to that.
That’s why I think much of the “conservative” values people claim of have are absolute shit.
Family Values
Just a tad late, Raoul.
I find that statement outstanding. once of the worst things I've ever heard a politician in the advanced world say.
That was an actual statement, right?
CNN has found a new spin doctor, Ed ?, and he's brilliant at it. Quite the condescending little shit as well.
He's been there for months. I believe he was their Jeff Lord replacement. Great casting.
Yet she received the 2nd most votes in the history of US presidential elections.
It’s true that she’s a very polarizing figure, but she has a very solid hardcore fan base who sees it as her destiny.
Again, the Dems did not want Sanders, he’s not one of them.The early and unidirectional endorsements from superdelegates in 2016 is unprecedented in history.
The rest of the field? There wasn’t much a rest if he field, was there?
Your post was that the much smaller initial lead for Clinton in 08 didn't swing the result. I was explaining how 2016 was different. She got more early endorsements and more total endorsements than a sitting VP of a popular president.