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fergieisold said:
I'm just giving my view that while Kavanaugh's emotion was what I associate with actual near crying. He had to stop and compose himself. You can come to your own conclusions about what that means as it proves nothing other than it was real.

Ford's was not realistic. That's just my opinion...doesn't mean I don't believe her it means I believe she was acting and well coached.
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That is some amount of Bullshit for a Friday morning. what age r u?
 
I don't know much about him beyond bits of this story but am i right in saying people are protesting despite him being found not guilty at this point?
 
Smores said:
I don't know much about him beyond bits of this story but am i right in saying people are protesting despite him being found not guilty at this point?
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I think, regardless of him being a rapist or not, his credibility is rather questionnable at best. He says he hardly ever drank in college and was a virgin. However, quite a few of his contemporaries have said that they knew Brett as a heavy drinker and beligerent drunk during his college years. Doesn't mean he should be thrown in jail, does mean he might not be the ideal candidate to serve on the supreme court for life, with all their yapping about immaculacy and what not.
 
bazalini said:
That is some amount of Bullshit for a Friday morning. what age r u?
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Oooooo the 'you must be a child' response to a person with a differing opinion. I'm 4 but really advanced for my age.

Smores said:
I don't know much about him beyond bits of this story but am i right in saying people are protesting despite him being found not guilty at this point?
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Yup, the people who are against him have already decided he's guilty. But that happens a lot with the regressive left. My personal opinion is that I don't have a clue, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
 
fergieisold said:
Oooooo the 'you must be a child' response to a person with a differing opinion. I'm 4 but really advanced for my age.



Yup, the people who are against him have already decided he's guilty. But that happens a lot with the regressive left. My personal opinion is that I don't have a clue, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
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I fully agree with this, but what do you think of someone who flat out lies about drinking in college being nominated to the supreme court.I personally don't think lying under oath is a good trait for anyone, let alone a judge on the supreme court?
 
KirkDuyt said:
I think, regardless of him being a rapist or not, his credibility is rather questionnable at best. He says he hardly ever drank in college and was a virgin. However, quite a few of his contemporaries have said that they knew Brett as a heavy drinker and beligerent drunk during his college years. Doesn't mean he should be thrown in jail, does mean he might not be the ideal candidate to serve on the supreme court for life, with all their yapping about immaculacy and what not.
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Crazy that those things even come up but i suppose it's the nature of appointment for life roles.

My main issue was the celebs who seem to have jumped on board the protests. If he's been found not-guilty it's a pretty shitty thing for them to be using their celeb status to attack him.
 
KirkDuyt said:
I fully agree with this, but what do you think of someone who flat out lies about drinking in college being nominated to the supreme court.I personally don't think lying under oath is a good trait for anyone, let alone a judge on the supreme court?
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With the stuff that has gone on I don't think he should be nominated. You'd think they could just wheel out some other conservative republican that they could get through.
 
Smores said:
Crazy that those things even come up but i suppose it's the nature of appointment for life roles.

My main issue was the celebs who seem to have jumped on board the protests. If he's been found not-guilty it's a pretty shitty thing for them to be using their celeb status to attack him.
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To be fair at this point whether or not he’s guilty is fairly irrelevant as his behaviour through this process is enough to warrant a protest against his appointment.

But those things did come up as they were relevant to the accusation.
 
fergieisold said:
With the stuff that has gone on I don't think he should be nominated. You'd think they could just wheel out some other conservative republican that they could get through.
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That's the really strange part. Why go to all this trouble? Surely there's a very, very good reason for why it absolutely has to be him. I'm not sure it'd be good for Trump and the GOP if the reason was revealed though.
 
fergieisold said:
the regressive left
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Ah, yes, the regressive left. Who or what, exactly, is the regressive left, and what is it that makes them regressive?

Or were you just trying to call people on the left a mean thing after having been called out by several of us in this thread?
 
Smores said:
Crazy that those things even come up but i suppose it's the nature of appointment for life roles.

My main issue was the celebs who seem to have jumped on board the protests. If he's been found not-guilty it's a pretty shitty thing for them to be using their celeb status to attack him.
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Celebrities are always problematic in these instances. They extremely influencial in the publics opinion, but for the wrong reasons. They're famous and popular for their films / music, not their political or legislative acumen.
 
Halftrack said:
Ah, yes, the regressive left. Who or what, exactly, is the regressive left, and what is it that makes them regressive?

Or were you just trying to call people on the left a mean thing after having been called out by several of us in this thread?
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Plenty out there about the regressive left to read. My experience of them is that they are a bunch of people who may identify a liberal but actually spread illiberal ideologies.



Can't remember exact content of the video but Dawkins is usually a safe bet.
 
fergieisold said:
The specific bit I'm talking about is -



at 1:37

He's genuinely upset in my eyes. Bit cheesy but seems real to me. Like I said, proves nothing though.
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He's angry, he's some entitled WASP who believes his place in life and promotion shouldn't be at risk because some nobody female and a few pathetic grubby democrats are keeping him from it. He's also lying and can't believe his word isn't all that matters. He's worked hard for this promotion, he's brown nosed the right people, he has hidden evidence and suborned FBI Investigations for those people and now he is being shown up for what he is. Brings him to tears but he has now picked up the righteous sword of anger and by God he will smite anyone who comes between him and his seat on the Supreme Court.
 
Revan said:
I think that a lot of money needs to be spent on educating women (and men who forget their condoms) why abortion is a bad thing and should be avoided/prevented.
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This sounds to me a bit more ominous than you possibly meant it. It's not like there's more than a tiny, tiny minority of women which considers abortion to be a care-free alternative to birth control. One effect of constantly telling people how bad an abortion is, is that you create stigma for the vast majority who had one because it was the better alternative to bringing a pregnancy to term. I'm not sure it's a fine ideal to want to make people even more ashamed of their already difficult and agonized decision. Actually, it definitely isn't.
 
Redplane said:
The WSJ aka the Fox News of the "print" media? Though admittedly they ve actually come out against Trump every now and then - they clearly are more aligned with the Republican establishment.
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Aren't they owned by Murdoch too?
 
Redplane said:
The WSJ aka the Fox News of the "print" media? Though admittedly they ve actually come out against Trump every now and then - they clearly are more aligned with the Republican establishment.
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They lean more to the right, but are very reasoned in their coverage. Wouldn't put them in the same box as Fox News.
 
Redplane said:
The WSJ aka the Fox News of the "print" media? Though admittedly they ve actually come out against Trump every now and then - they clearly are more aligned with the Republican establishment.
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If the article was false, then the friend will have released a statement and refuted it.
 
Will these bitches (gender neutral) announce their vote so I can get on with my life? Never seen such a bunch of drama queens. It's real simple... yes or no, what more information are you looking to glean from that report? Idiots, the lot of them
 
If someone votes yes on the procedural vote and no on the final vote it either means the FBI report showed something or else Kavanaugh talked himself out of a supreme court job with his abrasive senate testimony.
 
fergieisold said:
You see, generally, when I've cried water falls out of my face. Ford blubbered for minutes and...nothing. It was faked!
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My mother died last year due to medical negligence and I shed my tears. Everyday I think of her I get a wave of sadness, my body is crying but I'm all teared out. Time does that and Dr. Ford has spent her life coming to terms with one of the most traumatic experiences anyone could have. She has managed her psychological pain better then most and used it to help other people. You're talking fecking shite, Kavanaugh's crocodile tears come about through selfishness and deceit brought on by anger and a total disregard for the civility this position warrants.
Regardless of the drinking or disgusting treatment of women his performance last week shined a big fecking light on his political bias.
 
Rado_N said:
Good god, the nonsense baton got handed over quickly.
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This forum seems to have been flagged by some seriously warped opinions. Conservatism seems to be very comfortable with the sexual assault of women and children.
 
Murkowski voted no.

Wow.

Manchin, Collins, flake yes on that vote.

So I assume need one to switch over for tie and 2 for it to fall?
 
FromTheBench said:
Murkowski voted no.

Wow.

Manchin, Collins, flake yes on that vote.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Murkowski will vote no in the actual vote then as well.

Manchin and Flake will vote yes, which should give them enough irrespective of how Collins votes.
 
Raoul said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Murkowski will vote no in the actual vote then as well.

Manchin and Flake will vote yes, which should give them enough irrespective of how Collins votes.
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Can Manchin be seen as the vote that confirmed kavanaugh? It's different if his vote didn't matter but can he be the vote?

He will be doomed in the Democratic party.
 
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