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This has all worked out pretty well for Jeff Flake, he got to "respond" to the moment he ignored sexual assault survivors for five minutes and still gets the cushy job after leaving congress by voting yes.
 
Then there's the fact that he didn't want the FBI to investigate. Surely, if you're being falsely accused of sexual misconduct and attempted rape, you'll welcome an investigation by the FBI. But he didn't want one. The logical conclusion is that he has something to hide, because what other reason could he have to not want the FBI to investigate?

Fear of the senate turning blue in the meanwhile? It's a job for life, the highest job he can aspire to, and right now is possibly the only opportunity in his life to get it.
 
This has all worked out pretty well for Jeff Flake, he got to "respond" to the moment he ignored sexual assault survivors for five minutes and still gets the cushy job after leaving congress by voting yes.

I was wondering about that - would a single bad vote in a 97% conservative career foul up the revolving door?
 
Makes perfect sense that minorities would be more positive towards socialism and less positive towards capitalism. Even so, 42% is pretty damn high for white millennials, considering we're talking about America here.
 
I was wondering about that - would a single bad vote in a 97% conservative career foul up the revolving door?
You never know when it's this high profile, you can imagine him sweating about it right now.

Though you're probably right it may not be the biggest motivation, more than likely he thinks it's a good pick and doesn't much care about the sexual assault angle.
 
Has anybody ever bothered to tell our friends across the Atlantic that you can be a socialist and capitalist at the same time? Socialism is a very broad term. Most welfare states (ie the all Western democracies w.e.o. the US) have a capatalist system and socialist (market socialism) virtues. Even conservatives like the Tories in Britain believe in market socialism at the end of the day. I’d even argue that without socialism capitalism would collapse: the larger the market the more demand!
 
Fear of the senate turning blue in the meanwhile? It's a job for life, the highest job he can aspire to, and right now is possibly the only opportunity in his life to get it.
Nah, an investigation was never going to last that long. Their job in these investigations isn't to build a criminal case, they're just looking to gather more information to pass on to the Senate, who then decides what happens. With the Repubs in control, they get to decide how long the FBI gets to spend gathering information, and also what they're allowed to gather information on. And even with that knowledge, Kavanaugh was opposed to being investigated.

That's enough for me to conclude that he's got something to hide, something he fears would be enough to push even Republicans to vote no.
 
Has anybody ever bothered to tell our friends across the Atlantic that you can be a socialist and capitalist at the same time? Socialism is a very broad term. Most welfare states (ie the all Western democracies w.e.o. the US) have a capatalist system and socialist (market socialism) virtues. Even conservatives like the Tories in Britain believe in market socialism at the end of the day. I’d even argue that without socialism capitalism would collapse: the larger the market the more demand!

That's what gets me about these surveys. A vast majority of countries have some degree of a free market and some variant of a social safety net. Its the degree to which both are balanced together that is in question.
 
And even with that knowledge, Kavanaugh was opposed to being investigated.

That's enough for me to conclude that he's got something to hide, something he fears would be enough to push even Republicans to vote no.

Perhaps dig deep enough and they uncover who paid off his debts, and connect the dots from there if a trail reveals itself.
 


If Collins wins re-election in 2020, Democrats should just call it quits.


I don't think he will either. He will however rubber stamp every single corporate case against citizens (something I didn't even have faith in Garland being reliable on). Overturning Roe I believe is a bit of a decoy from Republicans.They give a dog whistle to the vocal minority of the evangelicals that actually care about it, while also giving the impression of somehow conceding ground to Democrats by not pushing to overturn Roe, meanwhile they jam through all sorts of pro-corporate/pro-elitist decisions that harm the working class.
 
I don't think he will either. He will however rubber stamp every single corporate case against citizens (something I didn't even have faith in Garland being reliable on). Overturning Roe I believe is a bit of a decoy from Republicans.They give a dog whistle to the vocal minority of the evangelicals that actually care about it, but they give the impression of somehow conceding ground to Democrats by not pushing to overturn Roe, meanwhile they jam through all sorts of pro-corporate/pro-elitist decisions that harm the working class.
They’ve nominated something like 160 anti-choice judges to circuit courts. Overturning Roe is the broader goal but with judges like these they will continually gut Roe bit by bit like how they did the Voting Rights Act until it’s meaningless.

But yes, quid pro quo for the donors class is first and foremost in their minds.
 
They’ve nominated something like 160 anti-choice judges to circuit courts. Overturning Roe is the broader goal but with judges like these they will continually gut Roe bit by bit like how they did the Voting Rights Act until it’s meaningless.

But yes, quid pro quo for the donors class is first and foremost in their minds.

To some degree yes, but what I mean is that every rich Republican I've ever met strongly supports corporate/wealthy favorable decisions. But only about half actually give two fecks about Roe and a few even strongly oppose overturning Roe.
 
To some degree yes, but what I mean is that every rich Republican I've ever met strongly supports corporate/wealthy favorable decisions. But only about half actually give two fecks about Roe and a few even strongly oppose overturning Roe.

Genuinely curious - what do they think about guns?
 
Genuinely curious - what do they think about guns?

Of the people I know gun opinions are all over the place, including liberals too actually. The only real consensus on gun control is about things like limiting mental illness and domestic violence citizens from owning. Even closing the private seller loophole is more difficult than you would think.
 
Anyone willing to give me a quick summary on the Roe case? Read people on here mention it many times.
 
Do I understand it right, they want to make abortions against the law? :eek:
More like leaving the decisions to states, and cutting all budget from US government to it. Essentially, it will be legal in California, but almost impossible to do in Arkansas.
 
More like leaving the decisions to states, and cutting all budget from US government to it. Essentially, it will be legal in California, but almost impossible to do in Arkansas.
Well that's horrible as well. :(
 
Well that's horrible as well. :(
I have somehow 'centrist' views in abortion, but making abortion illegal in states is wrong.

Interestingly, 'Roe' in Roe vs Wade case, somehow later in her life became a religious nut, and is against abortion.
 
Hard partying college guy who often got so black out drunk that he did bad things ranging from throwing ice at people who disrespected him to covering the mouth of a 15 year old girl so no one would notice he and his pal were accosting her against her will. The behavior continued after college and he opted to deny and conceal his past because he thought no one would ever look back that far - and when they did, he continued to lie and obfuscate because he made the bet the President and GOP congress would have his back.

I think there's enough from what I've seen that should prevent him being nominated - although on the other side of things there isn't really any evidence that will stand up in a court of law. I also didn't like Fords testimony and the fake crying, she didn't need to act. She should have just told her story.



I don't see what he did wrong tbh. These lot are like the rabid feminist left that think they can abuse anybody they want in the name of social justice.
 
The Republicans are not going to outright reverse Roe V Wade. They will just gut the law until it's useless.
 
I have somehow 'centrist' views in abortion, but making abortion illegal in states is wrong.

Interestingly, 'Roe' in Roe vs Wade case, somehow later in her life became a religious nut, and is against abortion.

Out of interest, what do you mean by "centrist views"?
 
I also didn't like Fords testimony and the fake crying, she didn't need to act. She should have just told her story.
What? On what basis are you calling her crying fake? She was recalling a traumatic event, crying comes with the territory, you sociopath.
 
The fact that he opposes gay marriage alone is enough to disqualify him. What kind of moron is against gay marriage. It's not like people are advocating to make gay marriage compulsory. You're still allowed to marry someone of the other sex if you want.

I mean, I'd rather not marry a devout Christian, but I don't go around campaigning against inter religious marriage. Fecking morons.
 
Out of interest, what do you mean by "centrist views"?
I don't think that abortion is a very nice thing. While I think that it should be allowed (unless the fetus is already very developed), I think that it is important to educate women (especially young ones) against it, and instead how to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

My point is that my view doesn't align with the strict left-ish 'it is her body, she should do whatever she wants with it' and who don't look at it as an 'evil' thing.
 
I don't think that abortion is a very nice thing. While I think that it should be allowed (unless the fetus is already very developed), I think that it is important to educate women (especially young ones) against it, and instead how to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

My point is that my view doesn't align with the strict left-ish 'it is her body, she should do whatever she wants with it' and who don't look at it as an 'evil' thing.
I doubt even the most pro abortion person thinks of abortion is a nice thing. That's what some people seem to forget, an abortion is by far (really really far) the worst for the person having the actual abortion. An abortion is terrible, mind wrecking and guilt inducing. That, however, doesn't mean it should be outlawed.
 
Do Americans see the irony in being ‘pro life’ and ‘pro guns’?
Do the Americans not find the politicization of their judiciary system extremely disturbing?
Do the Americans not realize that at this rate they’re heading for full blown civil war?

Putin must be feeling extremely smug with himself.
 
I doubt even the most pro abortion person thinks of abortion is a nice thing. That's what some people seem to forget, an abortion is by far (really really far) the worst for the person having the actual abortion. An abortion is terrible, mind wrecking and guilt inducing. That, however, doesn't mean it should be outlawed.
I get the impression that a lot of anti-abortionists think there's a ton of women who use it as birth control. Like, "oops, got preggers again. wouldn't be a night out without it. welp, just gotta go and get this person sucked out, no biggie."
 
I doubt even the most pro abortion person thinks of abortion is a nice thing. That's what some people seem to forget, an abortion is by far (really really far) the worst for the person having the actual abortion. An abortion is terrible, mind wrecking and guilt inducing. That, however, doesn't mean it should be outlawed.
Exactly. I think that a lot of money needs to be spent on educating women (and men who forget their condoms) why abortion is a bad thing and should be avoided/prevented.

There are women who do multiple abortions on their lives, with the entire process being as simple as like going to the dentist. They should be educated on avoiding that.

Obviously, I think that it should remain legal, just that it should be heavily discouraged (not as in making more difficult to do it, but as in educating people to not have the need to do abortion in the first place).
 
Do Americans see the irony in being ‘pro life’ and ‘pro guns’?
Do the Americans not find the politicization of their judiciary system extremely disturbing?
Do the Americans not realize that at this rate they’re heading for full blown civil war?

Putin must be feeling extremely smug with himself.

And against healthcare for everybody.
 
I get the impression there a lot of Americans who couldn’t give a shit about life and are only interested in their extremist religion. Feckin Puritan nutjobs.
 
The fact that he opposes gay marriage alone is enough to disqualify him. What kind of moron is against gay marriage. It's not like people are advocating to make gay marriage compulsory. You're still allowed to marry someone of the other sex if you want.

I mean, I'd rather not marry a devout Christian, but I don't go around campaigning against inter religious marriage. Fecking morons.
Which conservative isn't against gay marriage?
 
I doubt even the most pro abortion person thinks of abortion is a nice thing. That's what some people seem to forget, an abortion is by far (really really far) the worst for the person having the actual abortion. An abortion is terrible, mind wrecking and guilt inducing. That, however, doesn't mean it should be outlawed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/health/abortion-mental-health.html

I don’t know much about possible physical harm, but psychologically speaking, it seems to be a pretty simple procedure, without many lasting consequences.