True. She's a bit of a butterface tbh. Great rack though.
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Fellaini will be used more than Herrera
I mentioned this in the LvG:I shall play 4-3-3 thread (brilliant title by the way). I'm failing to see much correlation at all between LvG and a fluid 4-3-3 that is comparable or equates to his previous Ajax, Barca or Bayern sides. I think the most comparable was instead his 3-5-2 with Holland which was disastrous at United. I think people are clutching at straws trying to fit this United side into a mold of his previous sides. Posters go on about Mata at the 10, when LvG never played Mata at the 10. He played Fellaini at the 10. They talk about dynamic fullbacks when he played Young and Valencia there. I'm optimistic that in the window it'll get sorted, but I see no correlation between his past sides and United. We still look unbalanced, sorely in need of reinforcements in certain areas, and a woeful fit for 4-3-3.
We keep hearing about the philosophy, the system and how it's all going to click, but it "clicked" last season with Young at RW, Valencia at RB and Fellaini at the 10. That is terribly inconsistent with purist theories about Dutch total football, IMO.
I've spent a year now reading about his philosophy, Dutch folks writing about how we should understand his system, and none of these "experts" bloody predicted his best side would be with Fellaini at the 10. A traditional Dutch-style
playmaker indeed. At Red Cafe we owe it to ourselves to not fall into the trance of RAWK style forum demigods. We have to question it, and my eyes have seen some progress under Van Gaal, but equal measure latter SAF bafflement and disbelief.
I'm almost done with these Phase of Play LvG apologists. Our football was tumescent, even though we got results. Just as I'm also equally done with the 4-4-2, Gary Neville purist crowd. I want to see proper attacking football and be entertained. Results be damned.
We keep hearing about the philosophy, the system and how it's all going to click, but it "clicked" last season with Young at RW, Valencia at RB and Fellaini at the 10. That is terribly inconsistent with purist theories about Dutch total football, IMO.
I've spent a year now reading about his philosophy, Dutch folks writing about how we should understand his system, and none of these "experts" bloody predicted his best side would be with Fellaini at the 10. A traditional Dutch-style
playmaker indeed. At Red Cafe we owe it to ourselves to not fall into the trance of RAWK style forum demigods. We have to question it, and my eyes have seen some progress under Van Gaal, but equal measure latter SAF bafflement and disbelief.
I'm almost done with these Phase of Play LvG apologists. Our football was tumescent, even though we got results. Just as I'm also equally done with the 4-4-2, Gary Neville purist crowd. I want to see proper attacking football and be entertained. Results be damned.
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Funny his philosophy , just involves spending 250mill plus, and then complaining squad is weak in certain areas, great managers can maximise what they work with, and get the best out of players
What I seen last season, he sidelined all creative and dribbling players, and we played the most boring, no attacking intent Ive ever seen, we never looked like scoring at times, hence the huge number of goals from midfield from the likes of herrera, fellaini, and mata
Plus alot of players regressed under him, instead of getting the best out of them, the only 2 who changed positively was Young and Fellaini, and Valencia at certain times, as he was no longer charged with being a winger to create chances
He really needs to be getting the best out of the players, screw his outdated philosophy, im pretty sure 90% of managers in Pl could finish 4th if getting the money LVG has, if the team was playing good, fair enough, but based on last seasons displays they were terrible, even preseason was nothing special
People bring up Barcelona game, but we had our first XI against Barcelona with alot of their first team players, plus the 2 goals that made scoreline look good was from the youth team, who played some great football, as they dont get trained under LVG philosophy, they played without fear
What I seen last season, he sidelined all creative and dribbling players, and we played the most boring, no attacking intent Ive ever seen, we never looked like scoring at times, hence the huge number of goals from midfield from the likes of herrera, fellaini, and mata
Plus alot of players regressed under him, instead of getting the best out of them, the only 2 who changed positively was Young and Fellaini, and Valencia at certain times, as he was no longer charged with being a winger to create chances
He really needs to be getting the best out of the players, screw his outdated philosophy, im pretty sure 90% of managers in Pl could finish 4th if getting the money LVG has, if the team was playing good, fair enough, but based on last seasons displays they were terrible, even preseason was nothing special
People bring up Barcelona game, but we had our first XI against Barcelona with alot of their first team players, plus the 2 goals that made scoreline look good was from the youth team, who played some great football, as they dont get trained under LVG philosophy, they played without fear
I agree, as much as I think Herrera is a great player im struggling to see how he will fit into LVGs team.
Van Gaal doesn't get anywhere near as much stick as he should for how badly the Di Maria transfer turned out. We spent £60m on him because he looked like the best midfield playmaker in the world and when played there for us he straight away looked like being one of the best players in the league. The plan to move him first upfront and then to the wing was poorly conceived and when it failed the refusal to return him to midfield was moronic.
This is valid, however when you watched Di Maria, Mar - May, he was so bad. You could play Messi, Suarez, Rooney, Lahm, Neymar, Muller, whoever top players in the world out of position and they should still do better than what Di Maria did. Something had gone in his head. He literally was woeful. But I do agree to a point.
Example - Look at how much Chelsea as a team and everyone around them are trying to build up Falcao talking about how sharp he was last yr, and how he looks great this yr, excited to play with him etc etc. Trying to build his confidence. LVG attacks this clearly in a different way, and it didnt work with Di Maria.
Rojo should play alongside Smalling for us at CB.
Think Rojo Smalling is currently our best combination. I didnt think Rojo looked bad last year, I thought he did alright at CB, better than Jones. Smalling can play where he is naturally more suited as right sided CB. If LVG wants the left right footers at CBs then this suits best.
Jones either needs to step up, or I think Smalling Rojo are our current best pairing.
Think Rojo Smalling is currently our best combination. I didnt think Rojo looked bad last year, I thought he did alright at CB, better than Jones. Smalling can play where he is naturally more suited as right sided CB. If LVG wants the left right footers at CBs then this suits best.
Jones either needs to step up, or I think Smalling Rojo are our current best pairing.
Yep. End of the season Di Maria barely resembled a professional footballer. Imo he is not a mentally tough player who can thrive on adversity, he needs to be coddled, moving him all over the pitch like a utility player just damaged his confidence.
Agree with all of this too. Fingers crossed that Rojo is who Van Gaal really wants to be our LCB this season and Blind has just been filling in.
Schweinsteiger is going to disappoint so many United fans. The day they were both signed, I was more excited about Schneiderlin and I think he'll prove to be the better deal by far.
We'll do well this coming season.
I like Antonio Valencia.
The bloke just entertains me, whether its barging someone of the ball with his freakish strength, his constant foul throws, or the fact that he's probably a psychopath... Even the fact that he constantly wangs crosses into defenders shins is pretty funny.
The bloke just entertains me, whether its barging someone of the ball with his freakish strength, his constant foul throws, or the fact that he's probably a psychopath... Even the fact that he constantly wangs crosses into defenders shins is pretty funny.
Me too, he can be frustrating but he is so likable.
He spent a lot:
Most of the players from the title winning team under Fergie basically left. Ferdinand: Kagawa, Evra, Vidic, RvP, Nani, Anderson, Fletch, Rafael, Welbeck. Evans is set to leave. Fallacy and AdM didn't work out. Youth prospects didn't work out(Powell, Zaha) Sure he spent a lot but do you really think the spending was frivolous?
He says we still don't have good enough players:
He's asking for someone to do what AdM was brought in to do.
He probably - and understandably - wants a backup striker.
Players regressed
All our players regressed with Moyes, and most of them got flogged. LvG was a welcome change. Smalling improved under him, DDG improved. Rooney did really well in a different role.
We played shit football
We were punished by Burnley with attacking tactics, it's understandable why he wanted to more cautious. And the win against City, Spurs, Pool and the performances against Chelsea were promising. We struggled against small sides but we'll see how he handles it.
There've been plenty signs of improvement and LvG's work is promising. You guys are a tough crowd who want him to play like Barca a year after Moyes.
In all seriousness though, I can't remember too many players for us that have sacked off their agent because they're so happy here and/or would play on with basically one eye for the best part of 90 minutes in a crucial match. Valencia gets my respect for that.
Glad Young got a 3 year extension. Seems like he took a pay cut and I think he is a good example for other players on the team, he works hard and does the job the manager asks of him.
In all seriousness though, I can't remember too many players for us that have sacked off their agent because they're so happy here and/or would play on with basically one eye for the best part of 90 minutes in a crucial match. Valencia gets my respect for that.
It's been a while since he scored, but remember his "celebrations"?
He still rarely joins the others in celebrating. It's really strange!
Yep I like Valencia also and preferred him easily to Rafael as a squad option.
Brendan Rodgers is a good football manager and has proven for large stretches in the last season and the slip year that he was. He deserved to win the league in 2013/2014
Thankfully he didnt.
Thankfully he didnt.
I agree.
Schweinsteiger needs to stay fit first. That is his biggest challenge
LVG knows what he is doing and manages his players appropriately.
Blind at CB disagrees
RVP and rooney in midfield last season disagree
Depay at 10 and mata on the wing disagree.
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Blind at CB disagrees
RVP and rooney in midfield last season disagree
Depay at 10 and mata on the wing disagree.
Yeah, I think he's a good manager too. It's a tough job.
An opposition's opinion: United should have sold Rooney to PSG back in 2013.
it's clearly not unpopular around here at all, be it PSG or anyone
really? because of his performances? or for the amount that they offered?
well for the amount that would potentially have been offered compared to the level of performances, many would say he should be shipped
I'd say that'd be a naive opinion from them. Given how the Moyes reign panned out, we'd of been even worse given Rooney was one of the better performers in that campaign and RVP seemingly fell out with Moyes. Also, given how our transfer dealings went that summer we'd of probably not replaced him.
the only possible way that season would have been worse was getting relegated.i love rooney. but sometimes think maybe we should have just sold him and moved in a different direction. but then i love him again
Otamendi will sit on the bench at City
I actually agree with this.
...and be added to their attendance figures.
He is a good manager but he didn't won the league because he didn't deserved it, because City were better.
If he isn't stuck in traffic.
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