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United Open Talks With De Gea ?
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Well, we bought experience goalkeepers and it didnt work out. Most likely scenario is that he will be our new no. 2 goalkeeper and we let him develop for another 1-2 years. That is if we sign him
Signing him in January would be perfect. With PiG going missing, looks like he could be on his way out. A year getting ready to be number #1 and then he doesn't have to worry about acclimitising.
I can already see him making normal mistakes for someone of his age and the caf saying "we should have signed an experienced goalkeeper" "no value" "but I wanted Casillas or Julio Cesar"
Yep it wouldnt come as a huge surprise after that incident. From my limited viewing of all the young keepers touted on here, he seems the best. Would be good to see edwin stay for another year in this scenario, to ease the changing of the guard, especially if the PIG leaves too.
a potential crapper in the De Gea talk....
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man utd in negotiations with aalesund fk over denmark gk, anders lindegaard (26), this afternoon
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Eeepppp, i'd certainly be going for de gea over lindegaard. Though if we do spend big on De Gea then I can see Kuszczak leaving (he said he would if he wasn't first choice soon). So maybe United are looking at signing two keepers... maybe. please. Would make sense. If De Gea is signed and VDS were to retire in the summer, Kuszczak leaving would leave us with just De Gea and Amos, so signing another keeper would be likely in those circumstances.
Hopefully that is the case and we don't go from signing one of the brightest prospects in football to lindegaard in the space of a few hours.
Tor-Kristian Karlsen
man utd in negotiations with aalesund fk over denmark gk, anders lindegaard (26), this afternoon
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Eeepppp, i'd certainly be going for de gea over lindegaard. Though if we do spend big on De Gea then I can see Kuszczak leaving (he said he would if he wasn't first choice soon). So maybe United are looking at signing two keepers... maybe. please. Would make sense. If De Gea is signed and VDS were to retire in the summer, Kuszczak leaving would leave us with just De Gea and Amos, so signing another keeper would be likely in those circumstances.
Hopefully that is the case and we don't go from signing one of the brightest prospects in football to lindegaard in the space of a few hours.
I bet you have seen niether play.
I'll be happy to get either keeper.
seen de gea a few times, and lindegaard once.
i would imagine PIG is off in the summer and that lindegaard would be back up. that'd seem to make more sense i hope.
Gut feeling.
I think Fergie will give Kuszczak a fair crack of the whip at the Number 1 spot when the time comes.
I seriously doubt it. He's the Raymond Van der Gouw of this era...ok for a game or two but not a number 1.
Van Der Gouw was actually useful on crosses. What fecked the Dutchman was his age. Not everyone can remain fit at 40 as VDS is.
We don't know if he has what it takes to be a number 1 yet because he's never had the opportunity.
I remember being outside the megastore when it opened as a kid hoping to get some autographs and Van Der Gouw turned up to raucous chants of "KEANO, KEANO, KEANO" the likeness was uncanny from a distance.
Lindegaard joining now in January so he gets time to settle without pressure and De Gea joining next summer(like Smalling deal) when PIG and maybe VDS are gone. Doesnt make much sense bringing in De Gea so soon while VDS is around, he is better off finishing the season at Atletico playing games on a regular basis. Fergie doesnt seem to trust PIG as no 1 or he would have given him more chances, he already tried giving a backup the nr 1 job before(Carroll) and it didnt exactly work out.....
He has played a decent number of games, including a good stretch last season. He is a solid enough keeper but useless on crosses and doesn't command his area - we have seen enough of that to know he isn't good enough to be first choice at United. Hopefully Fergie will have seen that too.
Not the point I'm making. There a re some goalkeepers that look the part for Utd as 1st choice, Schmeichel and VDS are those. There are those who are simply filling in,PIG is in that catergory.
The 2 I mentioned were/are world class goalkeepers that Utd need. While we will need a GK to stand in for the odd game, they are will never have the stature to be anumber 1 at a club like Utd
That was such a joke, we had a fantastic team and squandered it by skimping on a championship standard keeper.
Radio Marca and others are also saying United close to signing De Gea while a couple of people saying a 3.5m deal for Lindegaard is done as well. I think we'll sign both as number 1 and 2. There have been a lot of rumors about PIG going and him saying he wants to leave to get regular football.
Marca are just running the story based on what they've read in the British tabloids.
How many opportunities does he need? Crazy assertion really
It's a bit like saying Lee Martin or Ryan Shawcross should still be playing at Utd but they never really had the opportunity.
PIG has never been 1st choice for Poland has he? even when Boruc was playing for Celtic?
That's the article from the times.
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The test for PIG was last year. He was having a good run of games when VDS was injured. And eventough he was playing really well it was amazing how much more calmer the defense looked when VDS slotted back in.
This pretty much convinced me he'd never be no.1.
This pretty much convinced me he'd never be no.1.
And you think the defence will be equally at ease with a 20 year old who's never played in English football? It takes time to get settled with a new/different keeper added to a relatively stable and consistant back line, whether it's Kuszczak or not.
I've not seen much of De Gea to be honest. He might well be the best out there and become a United great (if this news is true), but we don't half seem to underrate our own players at times. Kuszczak did a good job last year, his handling of crosses is better than most keepers and his only real deficiency is in the accuracy of his distribution. I would be happy enough to give him a chance if this De Gea talk comes to nothing. I always rated him higher than Foster at least.
If playing in English football is the criterion then there is noone with sufficient quality. Its not about age. Its about personality. I don't think PIG has the personality or presence to lead a back line as no.1
Perhaps we are signing Lindegaard to be no.1 for a couple of years while De Gea settles. Who the feck knows. Lets see if we even get De Gea first.
I'd have to disagree with that. I think he's awful on crosses. He doesn't even seem capable of punching the ball, so he just stands there. Watching.
I don't get why PIG would leave if VDS retires and we bring in De Gea (or just about anyone else, for that matter). If I were him I'd stay for one more season and take the chance the new guy doesn't work out, which could really give him a good run in the side and a chance to cement the job. Or at the very least show off his skills and perhaps get a better offer elsewhere.
If at the end of that season the new guy has stepped up and become undisputed #1, then I'd fully understand PIG wanting to leave then.
Unless we actually rate Lindegaard higher than him and the idea is for the two new keepers to battle for the #1 spot.
If at the end of that season the new guy has stepped up and become undisputed #1, then I'd fully understand PIG wanting to leave then.
Unless we actually rate Lindegaard higher than him and the idea is for the two new keepers to battle for the #1 spot.
So lads in the event that we do get him, how good is he? Jojojo?
Reliable and solid a.k.a van der saar?
Eccentric beyond imagination yet capable of pulling off the brilliant a.k.a Bartez?
Does he use his height to good use?. Whats this i hear of him having a slightly off game the past few week?.
In short, in terms of now and not future potential, is he better than what we have now?. Kuzczack? What we had before? Foster?
Or is he a disaster waiting to happen a.k.a Tiabi?
Reliable and solid a.k.a van der saar?
Eccentric beyond imagination yet capable of pulling off the brilliant a.k.a Bartez?
Does he use his height to good use?. Whats this i hear of him having a slightly off game the past few week?.
In short, in terms of now and not future potential, is he better than what we have now?. Kuzczack? What we had before? Foster?
Or is he a disaster waiting to happen a.k.a Tiabi?
Get your cocks in, lads!
Because he feels he's at an age where he should command first team football. The thing with Kuz is that he doesn't seem to be as vocal as VDS and add to that his rather shambolic kicking and a little average ability to deal with crosses and you get an idea he isn't cut out to be our first choice. He's a brilliant shot stopper i'll give you that, one of the better ones in the business and he'll be an astute signing for any team in the bottom half of the table. But at champions league level he's just a little bit above his level.
For all his plus points the negative outweigh the positive and that is really a problem since he isn't that young or patient anymore.
Made up transfer stories. How I've missed them since the summer.
Very sexist of you. There are also females here...
If we do sign him and Anders Lindegaard, we'll have 4 keepers better than any at Arsenal(assuming this all gets done before Edwin retires and PIG leaves).It does worry me slightly that only the times are going with this. Others seem convinced lindegaard will be no.1.