Harry will be 30 years old in summer and is a very good player with another 3-5 years at top level in him, I reckon we can get 35-40M from a Premier League club for him which would be solid money, though obviously far from the price we paid.
United aiming to sell Harry Maguire next summer according to Jamie Jackson
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Good luck with that then
He’s struggled with the spotlight and the abuse he gets from playing at such a high profile club. He’s a good defender but he can make some pretty big errors at times and at this level he gets torn apart by the media. Anywhere outside of the top 6 and he’ll do well I think.
If you're Maguire, you're already on the phone to your agent asking him to shop you around after the way this season has gone so far for him. He'll be banking on having a good World Cup in order to garner some interest in himself, which I'm sure there is, but probably not the teams at the top end of the table he was hoping for.
Some people here really be thinking we can get real money for this guy. 
We bought Varane for €40M. Maguire is 29 and is not even half the defender Varane is and never will be. No one is paying such a fee for him. He can only be useful in teams that defend deep and for dear life, and those aren't usually swimming in cash. Unless he goes abroad, but then he would have to accept a significant pay cut. So no, we are not getting anywhere close to €40M for him. Any club willing to pay that much for Harry Maguire should launch an internal investigation, but only after the funds clear.
He offers absolutely nothing to us, except when we drop deep to defend a result in the dying embers. He offers no competition to either of Varane and Martinez. If they are unavailable, he is behind even Lindelof in the pecking order. He doesn't fit with the style Ten Hag is trying to implement. I don't think he fits with any style Manchester United should aspire to play. Accept Leicester finessed us hard and take the loss. If someone offers €15M, bite their hands off and run. But even getting his wages off the books and the circus around him will be enough.
I honestly can't wait for the day we are rid of Ronaldo and Maguire. Maybe then the club might return to some state of normalcy.
We bought Varane for €40M. Maguire is 29 and is not even half the defender Varane is and never will be. No one is paying such a fee for him. He can only be useful in teams that defend deep and for dear life, and those aren't usually swimming in cash. Unless he goes abroad, but then he would have to accept a significant pay cut. So no, we are not getting anywhere close to €40M for him. Any club willing to pay that much for Harry Maguire should launch an internal investigation, but only after the funds clear. He offers absolutely nothing to us, except when we drop deep to defend a result in the dying embers. He offers no competition to either of Varane and Martinez. If they are unavailable, he is behind even Lindelof in the pecking order. He doesn't fit with the style Ten Hag is trying to implement. I don't think he fits with any style Manchester United should aspire to play. Accept Leicester finessed us hard and take the loss. If someone offers €15M, bite their hands off and run. But even getting his wages off the books and the circus around him will be enough.
I honestly can't wait for the day we are rid of Ronaldo and Maguire. Maybe then the club might return to some state of normalcy.
People claiming we can get 40M for him are delusional. First he's probably on big wages, second he's proven he's not good enough for a top team so we'll have to shop him around mid or low teams. They're not going to pay 40M for freaking Maguire.
20-25M it's reasonable.
20-25M it's reasonable.
Just get rid, any which way possible.
ETH knows what he wants and should be backed 100%
The game where Maguire played and people said he did well-because he was making a load of last minute blocks to whatever team was attacking us to feckery. It was his slow immobile presence which invited that team onto us. We would not have been in that situation with a more mobile centre back. He is all that is wrong with this club
ETH knows what he wants and should be backed 100%
The game where Maguire played and people said he did well-because he was making a load of last minute blocks to whatever team was attacking us to feckery. It was his slow immobile presence which invited that team onto us. We would not have been in that situation with a more mobile centre back. He is all that is wrong with this club
Yes but if you spend $80,000 on something that was only ever worth $30,0000 which then runs like it’s worth $5000 you blew your wad.
Newcastle bound or Everton?
Can't imagine Maguire in Spain or Italy.
Can't imagine Maguire in Spain or Italy.
Or did we just rob someone of 30m?
Seriously though, that post was just in relation to people referring to how the Glazer’s people would not sell Maguire because it would sink the club’s financial result exposing how big of a loss we made on him.
Its been talked about a lot, and Goldbridge raised a question regarding how this works the other day at United Stands. And financial results and the status of the balance sheet can affect a company even if it is just ‘on paper’ not impacting the cash flow. Loan agreements have covenants. If a business develops poorly, interest on existing loan facilities may raise and so forth. It affects how much you can pay in dividend to the shareholders. Not the least, the valuation of a company.
And it is true that if you buy something for 80m day 1 and sell it for 30m day 2, it affects our result with a minus -50m.
When we bought Maguire for 80m he was booked at 80m in our balance sheet as an intangible asset (a right to register him as our player). But since a player has a limited life span, that asset must be depreciated (or amortized, since it’s an intangible asset). United does this in a straight line over the contract’s term.
Hence, next summer Maguire will “only” be on our books with 28m. If we sell him for 10m, it will impact our results with -18m. Not -70m.
Ultimately, we can accuse the Glazers for being utterly incompetent and worthless owners — but I don’t think we keep players because if we sold them, it would hurt our balance sheet.
Everton’s defense has been really strong this year and is Maguire even a starter for Newcastle?
The one team I would buy him for if I was in charge — in January, on top of everything — is Wolverhampton. They need character. A leader. Someone that will come in and take some heat of others.
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Maguire still has a lot more value than Jones. For now...
That's why we should be selling him if at all possible. He has performed well at points in the last few years, including for England and would be good for a midtable team playing a certain way. Just doesn't fit our system and should be sold whilst he still has value.
Jones has no value and nobody wants him.
Maguire has value and we could still find a buyer (assuming he is willing to go).
That's an attempt to make more money by selling, it has nothing to do with accounting or book value. Take Rashford, his book value is zero because he's an academy product, but that doesn't mean we would let him go for free. It would take an extremely large offer.
He and Awb must be the biggest con job in Premier league history. We'd be luck to get 30 million for both of them never mind one of them.
I stop reading after that word. Unless someone’s saying he’s a cnut, then I’ll keep reading.Or did we just rob someone of 30m?
Seriously though, that post was just in relation to people referring to how the Glazer’s people would not sell Maguire because it would sink the club’s financial result exposing how big of a loss we made on him.
Its been talked about a lot, and Goldbridge
Looks like Lindelof and Sancho will be put up for sale as well then if we are getting rid of players that are not up to scratch.
I hope this all happens
I'm guessing because there's not a chance in hell someone pays a fee for him? Or that any fee received would be close to meaningless with regards to reinvesting for an overhaul.
I'd be equally surprised and ecstatic if we managed to fetch that much. He'll be 30 years old by then, so not finished but probably a player on his last contract. Happily take £25m for him.
I don't understand corporate finances at all but is there any chance it was to sustain club value? Selling for £20m is worse on paper than keeping the asset and valuing at £30m for example maybe?
Anyone that understands finance able to shed some light on if this is plausible at all?
100% on everything you stated.
Well he is still a well established England international player after all. If the likes of Phillips worths 45m in the market, I reckon Maguire would worth at least around 40m, and he would do fine in mid-table club which like to sit deep and playing behind the ball.
So with Varane injured (again) we are going to sell Harry and have Lindelof or Axel to fill in for Varane when he is not available or we are going to bring in another CB in the summer?
Let me guess.......we are going to give another 50mil pressie to Ajax for Timber.
Let me guess.......we are going to give another 50mil pressie to Ajax for Timber.
He would absolutely thrive in Italy but the issue is whether they can afford him.
Character, leadership , takes some heat off others… they are not traits Maguire has displayed so far.
8 months to go we have make up our mind and let everyone know it? I don't believe it.
Your last sentence reads like our most impressive player this season has not been the CB we singed from Ajax
There are very few defenders that have gone for 40M, and a out of favor 30 year old Maguire is not going to be one of them.
For example for 40M Bayern got Upamecano, Juve got Bremer, Liverpool got Konate, we got Varane. For less than that Newcastle got Botman.
You're dreaming pal, English international or not no one's paying 40M for Maguire. Only top clubs are willing to pay such large figures for defenders and no top club would touch Maguire.
As I said, we'd be lucky if we can get 25M for him.
We need 1 CB in January and one in summer for sure to replace Lindelof too. Let’s go all out on timber in January
No wonder things get made up if that is your interpretation.Your last sentence reads like our most impressive player this season has not been the CB we singed from Ajax
We have given Ajax about 160mil in under three years so that is a generous amount in any person's language.
Forget 30m nobody would want to pay their wages alone. Far from value for money even for free.
Lots of solid no nonsense defender can be bought for 30M from the lower leagues. It's not like they're asked to play great football. Just defend and head the ball
Nah I think we can get at least 35m for Maguire. England full international rarely go for lower. A lot of mid table clubs could afford that price range for him.
I think Moyes at West Ham would have Maguire for £20/maybe25million
Chris Smalling, an England international and former Man Utd captain, went for what, £15 million ?
I’d take a mil for him. Anything that gets him of the books. If I was him and I wanted to be playing games then I’d be jumping at the chance to move. He obviously doesn’t enjoy football to much that he’d rather see out his contract and keep earning his ridiculous wage for nothing.
We’re gonna get laughed at by rivals so much for making a massive 60m loss if we get 20m for him. That’s probably gonna be one of the biggest losses in transfer history surely?
meh, we got four seasons or so out of him didn’t we? We need to take what we can get and cut our losses.
the answer to your question is Pogba.
Suppose it gets his wages of the books aswell and whatever we get goes towards our transfer budget. Ye forgot about pogba but again it’s us that are signing players for ridiculous money and letting them go for ridiculously low prices.
I'd be surprised if we get 25m for him. Daft to pay that much for a failed 30 year old centre back with as much limitations as he has.
The 'retaining value' stuff is nonsense. As others have explained the value of a player on the balance sheet at the end of a contract is zero. You don't then make a new valuation up if you extend.
Extending contracts is cheaper than buying new players while maintaining squad size. That will have been the main driver of the extensions.
Now if only Ole was still in management, he’d snap up Maguire and AwB in a heartbeat.