30m easily in the market. Pretty sure quite a lot of teams will look at him.
United aiming to sell Harry Maguire next summer according to Jamie Jackson
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Feel bad for him, he can do much better than what he has the past two years. To fail your dream can never be easy.
We did it with Rojo apparently and with Bailly I think.
All I see happening is we extend Freds contract with the plan to sell him and then we're just stuck with him
Would Leicester want him back?
Totally agree, he doesn't know to how coach and bringing in wrong players. We are leaking goals so he brings in AWB and Maguire where both doesn't contribute much to attacking play especially AWB. Dan James who is just a speed demon has limited ability. VDB who brings nothing to our game. Ronaldo was really a stupid move. Millions spend on wrong players, pathetic. He should reflect on the damages he brought to the club.
If true, second best bit of news we could have had after hearing the Glazers were selling, if that one ever does come.
Apart from the playing aspect, getting rid of him is a huge statement that the darkest post-Fergie days really are coming to an end. Maguire is one of the major icons of this car crash United period and the sooner he's out the door the better. To hell with how much of a loss will be made, he simply has to go to give credence to the new United era.
Apart from the playing aspect, getting rid of him is a huge statement that the darkest post-Fergie days really are coming to an end. Maguire is one of the major icons of this car crash United period and the sooner he's out the door the better. To hell with how much of a loss will be made, he simply has to go to give credence to the new United era.
Do you really need to ask?
A few things will have to line up for this to ever happen.
Maguire will need to continue to be behind Martinez, Varane, and Lindelof.
he will have to want to play instead of getting 190k a week and being 4th
he will have to want to half his wages
someone will have to want to pay us 20/30 million.
I can see some of these happening but I'm not sure if all will lineup.
Maguire will need to continue to be behind Martinez, Varane, and Lindelof.
he will have to want to play instead of getting 190k a week and being 4th
he will have to want to half his wages
someone will have to want to pay us 20/30 million.
I can see some of these happening but I'm not sure if all will lineup.
He's exceed his dreams though and has been given the opportunity to challenge himself at the very, very top. He was found out and that's okay.
I don't harbor any ill feelings towards Harry, he's a good person by most accounts, family, etc. But when standards are raised and he's the captain making good money, he was never going to make it above Lisandro and Varane when fit.
Plus, he has transfer value, which is just as important because the money is to be re-invested into the squad. So be it.
I think that's totally up to the player however the conditions have been there for him to exceed. It also just goes to show the reality of football it's always been cut throat. The issue at United has been the owners treating all players like asset even ones who aren't good enough hence many individuals who should have been sold from a performance basis have had years to stay.
Everton/villa/Newcastle
Better to have failed than to never had the chance
I doubt we will just let Fred leave for free
Sell him back to Leicester for £30m
The other option is offering him a new deal hoping to sell him, failing to do so and being lumbered with him like Jones & Bailly
£35-40m? Some of you are living in dreamland. We paid £80m for this dude four years ago, and not only has he been a joke and a meme for the last year, but he'll also be 30 next summer. Plus he's on wages nobody will match. And also factor in that we're shit at selling players.
I'll be fecking delighted if anyone gives us £20m.
Edit: not actually sure anyone actually said £35-40m. I'm drunk.
I'll be fecking delighted if anyone gives us £20m.
Edit: not actually sure anyone actually said £35-40m. I'm drunk.
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Hmmm. I’m not a Fred hater at all, but on the basis of his performance yesterday I’m not so sure. Maguire can be relied upon to perform well under certain circumstances, like when we were under aerial bombardment in the second half v West Ham. Fred’s wayward first touch guarantees that you can never be sure what you’re going to get.
Agreed. With the right setup, he was the main CB of team that came 2nd and 3rd in the PL, reaching multiple Cup Finals, and Euro Final. And he barely gets injured as well.
Patrick Vieira's singing Harry's praises on the BBC site. Palace it is then.
Good
This is talked about so much, but it’s not really correct.
This is how it works:
1. We bought Maguire for 80m. Simplified, this means that we take 80m from the item including cash in our balance sheet and add 80m to Intangible Assets.
Buying Maguire does not impact our Profit&Loss, we just move value from one item to another in our balance sheet.
2. During the course of Maguire's contract, his value — 80m — is amortized over the length of his contract in a straight line.
Maguire's contract is 6 years right. Hence 80m / 6y = app. 13m is amortized per year. We are 4 years into his contract, meaning that of the 80m we spent on Maguire, only 80m - 13m * 4y = 28m is still in the balance sheet.
So if we sell Maguire for 30m, it’s a 2m profit.
From Note 16, page 150, of the 2022 Annual Report (https://ir.manutd.com/~/media/Files/M/Manutd-IR/documents/Man Utd-20f-2022-09-24.pdf):
“Registrations costs are fully amortized using the straight-line method over the period covered by the player’s and key football management staff contract. Where a contract is extended, any costs associated with securing the extension are added to the unamortized balance (at the date of the amendment) and the revised book value is amortized over the remaining revised contract life.”
*”Registration costs” refers to transfer fees etc. You don’t pay to buy a player/person, you only acquire the right to register someone as your football player in competitions.
Leicester cannot afford the wages that Maguire is dragging down and he is way too slow to play for Rodgers. !!
Truth be told he is way too expensive & way too slow for most Premier league clubs.
It will be a difficult sell.
If we can't sell then definitely loan him out until his contract ends
makes Ashely young and Antonio Valencia captain of captain ?
They were both twice the skippers that he was tbf.
Don't think Maguire will get the type of reception that Young got yesterday if ever he'd return to OT in the future
Interesting. Thank you so much for sharing.
Wage is the most difficult issue. Assuming a club is willing to pay him a more affordable 120K, representing 3.5m p.a. loss in wages. We will probably have to handshake him a departing gift of say 5m to "lessen" the pain
He’ll be a decent buy for a club that sits deep. Hopefully we can get half of what we paid back, but that’s probably unrealistic. 30m seems about right?
Nothing wrong with failing although it needs to be rectified quickly. It’s the club’s fault (managers, directors) for letting it linger for so long.
Ironic considering we brought him in so we could play higher line. He has also said he liked defending like in the game vs Westham. We got it wrong. I'd even let him go for 20m. His price will only go down further each year. Ten Hag knows his ball playing CBs so if he immediately benched Maguire then that speaks volume. And to think we expected the new Rio Ferdinand.
Premier league clubs seem to always be willing to take a chance on yesterdays man thinking that they can re-light the fire & turn things around. The truth is that it very rarely works but it wont stop clubs from spewing money on Maguire. The price isn't the problem , its the fact that Man Utd always over pay wages & most clubs can't afford the 190 a week.
Real Madrid doesnt have the money
So why do we extend contracts to "preserve value", then? If players are expected to have zero value by the end anyway.
Yeah now just need to hear that about Ronaldo
Money is not the issue here guys. We can get more money in future. Getting him out will already be a major victory for the squad. And for us to continue to move away from former regimes.
He will instantly find problem with Italian mafia and detained by the carabinieri
