United aiming to sell Harry Maguire next summer according to Jamie Jackson

Good luck with tryna sell him. Be very surprised if we get over 20m for him. Plus who’s gonna wanna pay his ridiculous wages?
 
Good luck with tryna sell him. Be very surprised if we get over 20m for him. Plus who’s gonna wanna pay his ridiculous wages?

Prepared to be surprised, if/when he's sold he'll obviously and easily go for more than that. It's 2022, and he's a good CB for a certain type of football.
 
Lindelof is probably a better 3rd choice defender. Unassuming, can slot in occasionally.
You can't have an 80m guy on 200k a week hanging about on the bench.
You're right. Let's just clear the bench for some exciting players in mood of Lisandro.
 
I doubt the World Cup changes much. Clubs used to buy players they didn't know based on a good tournbament, but that happens a lot less now as they want to see more of them. So Maguire, who is well known, is going to be judged over more than five matches for England.
 
At best we would want him as a 4th choice bench option and as just mentioned, his wages are far too high for that. I think we need to just suck it up and take the loss.

With Varane, Martinez and Lindelof we should be looking for a younger CB at a good price. Maybe someone can correct me but aside from Gvardiol, the other CB that RR recommended was Bella Kotchap no? The guy is the right age, profile and wouldn’t cost the world.

ETH likes McT so much though that it’s only a matter of time, when he can’t fit him in midfield, that he starts giving him a run out at CB.
 
He did? England didn't play anyone until France and then he was poor. I don't think teams are that stupid mate.
Agree. He looked decent agaInst 3 teams we would beat 9/10 with or without him. Then he lets an aging slow Giroud beat him to the ball.
 
Agree. He looked decent agaInst 3 teams we would beat 9/10 with or without him. Then he lets an aging slow Giroud beat him to the ball.
I don't think the goal was his fault but Stone's. Stone was ball watching and let Giroud attacked the space behind him which Stone supposedly had to cover. Maguire was already in a big disadvantage in that situation.
 
I don't think the goal was his fault but Stone's. Stone was ball watching and let Giroud attacked the space behind him which Stone supposedly had to cover. Maguire was already in a big disadvantage in that situation.

Agreed. I think it was more Stones fault than Maguire. Both are to blame and we didn't close out griezman fast enough.

But it was just a good ball in the box and a great run from giroud.
 
Harry probably wants to go as well. Carve out a decent career at a mid table team and stop being a figure of fun. Suits everyone.
His lack of pace would be less of a problem in Europe (look at how well Smalling has done and he's way faster). Harry had a pretty secure WC so hopefully someone in Italy might wan him... are you reading this, Jose? :)
 
His lack of pace would be less of a problem in Europe (look at how well Smalling has done and he's way faster). Harry had a pretty secure WC so hopefully someone in Italy might wan him... are you reading this, Jose? :)
Maguire much faster than Smalling? In what universe?
 
Maguire much faster than Smalling? In what universe?
:lol: :lol: :lol: Not sure what that was about! Smalling was known as the fastest player in the squad at a time where we had Rashford and the young pacy version of Martial. Smalling had issues, pace wasn't one of them
 
Maguire will easily rate a fee after this WC. He was really good at times, and he didn’t look sluggish and slow at all really. Most importantly, he looked good this WC with you guys pairing him in a back 4, not “because a back 3 suits him”

Are you guys ready? I’m going to make a comparison you’re probably not gonna like and suggest an idea you reeeaallly won’t like:

Looking Back, Maguire reminds me of our Koulibaliy situation. People are tearing this guy up like he never had an ounce of talent (KK), but there are defenders who simply need to have a proper DM in front of them …. not someone like Jorgihno yelling “Ole” as another player springs forward with the ball with only 3 yards of notice to the defender. You stick a Declan Rice in front of his line, and people are like “when did Maguire learn to play well again?”

Now, maybe that bridge is too burnt away, But Harry’s confidence was shot and he was already headed to the bench by the time Casemiro took the DM job over, wasn’t it? What if Maguire could and would play outstanding with Casemiro in front of him?

So, even if ETH thinks that ship has sailed, plenty of other teams will be able to see that in the right team setup Maguire can still be really good. That in turn will have buyers ready to take him on. Which is a good thing for you either way really.
 
England are out of the World Cup due to Maguire's inability to deal with a cross that he is supposed to specialise in.
 
England are out of the World Cup due to Maguire's inability to deal with a cross that he is supposed to specialise in.

That’s if you think Maguire should be the only England player to deal with any ball in to the box at both ends of the pitch…

Giroud was Stones’ man.
 
England are out of the World Cup due to Maguire's inability to deal with a cross that he is supposed to specialise in.
That's a strange take given a penalty was sent to Mars, John Stones was also playing and Tchouameni was just allowed to pick his spot at ease.

I can't stand Maguire in a red shirt, but also think it's absolutely insane for anyone to say he's the reason England are out of the WC.
 
England are out of the World Cup due to Maguire's inability to deal with a cross that he is supposed to specialise in.

Think you need to watch that again, Giroud gets in between Stones and Maguire, as any good striker should, Maguire reacts despite having another man, and pretty much gets there, he’s slightly unlucky I’d say.

Meanwhile Stones is doing f-all, doesn’t even have a clue what’s going on, hasn’t looked around once and whilst Maguire has two men in the middle, Stones is in no-mans land marking no-one.
 
Think you need to watch that again, Giroud gets in between Stones and Maguire, as any good striker should, Maguire reacts despite having another man, and pretty much gets there, he’s slightly unlucky I’d say.

Meanwhile Stones is doing f-all, doesn’t even have a clue what’s going on, hasn’t looked around once and whilst Maguire has two men in the middle, Stones is in no-mans land marking no-one.

I agree with this. Maguire is at fault for a lot of things but not this particular goal. Giroud is also a world class striker in terms of heading the ball. Probably top 3 in the world.
 
I agree with this. Maguire is at fault for a lot of things but not this particular goal. Giroud is also a world class striker in terms of heading the ball. Probably top 3 in the world.

There's no doubt Giroud is unreal at heading the ball but it's also supposed to be Maguire's main skill. He was largely untested in the world cup but the first big game he played in he was found wanting, neither Stones or Maguire are great defenders and it showed.
 
There's no doubt Giroud is unreal at heading the ball but it's also supposed to be Maguire's main skill. He was largely untested in the world cup but the first big game he played in he was found wanting, neither Stones or Maguire are great defenders and it showed.

feck me, I’ve seen Rio beaten plenty on similar moments, Pallister too, Ramos, Silva, hell Maldini.

You’re just being ridiculous here.
 
There's no doubt Giroud is unreal at heading the ball but it's also supposed to be Maguire's main skill. He was largely untested in the world cup but the first big game he played in he was found wanting, neither Stones or Maguire are great defenders and it showed.

It wasn’t his man?
 
It wasn’t his man?

Fair enough but they both went for the same ball at the same time and Giroud got the better of him.

I am not saying it was a huge blunder, or anything like that, but it was telling that come the first half-decent team England played that happened.

It would be ludicrous to keep Maguire based on a tournament when his side were mostly shooting fish in a barrel and looked thoroughly unconvincing come the first test.
 
Fair enough but they both went for the same ball at the same time and Giroud got the better of him.

I am not saying it was a huge blunder, or anything like that, but it was telling that come the first half-decent team England played that happened.

It would be ludicrous to keep Maguire based on a tournament when his side were mostly shooting fish in a barrel and looked thoroughly unconvincing come the first test.

No one is suggesting we keep him are they?

Maguire didn’t look unconvincing though and had a good tournament.

You can accept one without the other you know!
 
No one is suggesting we keep him are they?

Maguire didn’t look unconvincing though and had a good tournament.

You can accept one without the other you know!

He looked thoroughly unconvincing to me when he actually had something to do.
 
I think Harry gets blamed for some defensive collapses in this WC that where not on Harry alone. Stones didnt look any better on the goals that Harry gets blamed for.
I dont think Harry was fantastic but he wasnt the reason England are now out and he didnt have a bad tournament. Far from it.
 
He made major mistakes and build himself a reputation of being a calamity defender in a such a way, that now even if he plays 10 perfect games and, in the 11'th makes a mistake, he goes back to square 1.
Very difficult for him to be regarded as a decent defender, which he actually is.
 
Fair enough but they both went for the same ball at the same time and Giroud got the better of him.

Giroud had a yard on him and Maguire made that up and got something on it, it was a sensational pinpoint cross.
Ruban Dias got absolutely dominated for Morocco’s goal.
Martinez was beaten on the dutch goal.
Rio and Vidic were done by Messi for God’s sake.

Sometimes a cross and a run deserve much more respect than just trying to find someone to blame.