United aiming to sell Harry Maguire next summer according to Jamie Jackson

Jund said:
He could be Player of the tournament for all I care. When he comes back here, he's the same liability he's always been.
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He's not bad centre back but just not our club's level. He's good enough to play for like Leicester level and that's more than enough to be starter for England National Team.

Honestly, I will take 30m-40m. With that amount is enough to sign young centre back to be developed. If 45m-50m offer comes then it should be no brainer.
 
Ten Hag urging him to show his WC form when he comes back to us. That to me sounds like he’s giving him another chance. Maguire will have to play the first 1/2 games back anyway as martinez and Varane who are by far our best cb will have been potentially in the WC final. Our depth at the back is awful.
 
Never feel fully relaxed when he's on the pitch for United this season. Would bite anyones hand off if they offered 40m.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ten Hag urging him to show his WC form when he comes back to us. That to me sounds like he’s giving him another chance. Maguire will have to play the first 1/2 games back anyway as martinez and Varane who are by far our best cb will have been potentially in the WC final. Our depth at the back is awful.
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I think Ten Hag will want him to play well and be confident, especially since Varane will probably get hurt at some point, and then move him on the summer. He didn't rate Botman ahead of Lisandro and Timber, because he cares about mobility and passing more than heading it.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ten Hag urging him to show his WC form when he comes back to us. That to me sounds like he’s giving him another chance. Maguire will have to play the first 1/2 games back anyway as martinez and Varane who are by far our best cb will have been potentially in the WC final. Our depth at the back is awful.
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How is our depth awful with Maguire and Lindelof as back up central defenders? I think that's as good as can be expected for reserves.
 
Floyd said:
How is our depth awful with Maguire and Lindelof as back up central defenders? I think that's as good as can be expected for reserves.
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This is so true. You don’t have 4 world class central defenders at a club.
 
darioterios said:
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Great way to say he doesn't rate him without explicitly saying it and lowering his sale value.

You only have to compare how he speaks about Rashford to see what he would say if he truly thought Maguire was good enough.
 
I actually think if we have kept Smalling then Maguire would have been a better player for us. Sadly it wasn't to be.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Smalling was fast as feck.

Shit at some other things, but his pace was one of his big strengths.
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The 'Smalling is slow' crowd is probably the strangest I've ever seen on this forum. It was something that I've seen numerous people say over the years (both while he was here and since he's left), and I simply don't understand it. It's not like he had even average speed where you can understand some people exaggerating it (such as what Lindelof gets atm).

Smalling was close to as fast as you'll get at centre back. Out of all the centre backs that I've seen play for us over the last 27 years or so, Silvestre is perhaps the only one that might have been faster. Perhaps Rio can have an argument as well, but I think Smalling's top speed was a little faster.

The only thing I can think of is that Smalling's first couple of steps could be more 'average' paced if he had to suddenly turn 180 from a standing start. So occasionally small nippy players could get a couple of steps on him in those situations. But that's true for basically any player his size, and 9 times out of 10 Smalling would just go through the gears and easily catch back up anyway.
 
MadDogg said:
The 'Smalling is slow' crowd is probably the strangest I've ever seen on this forum. It was something that I've seen numerous people say over the years (both while he was here and since he's left), and I simply don't understand it. It's not like he had even average speed where you can understand some people exaggerating it (such as what Lindelof gets atm).

Smalling was close to as fast as you'll get at centre back. Out of all the centre backs that I've seen play for us over the last 27 years or so, Silvestre is perhaps the only one that might have been faster. Perhaps Rio can have an argument as well, but I think Smalling's top speed was a little faster.

The only thing I can think of is that Smalling's first couple of steps could be more 'average' paced if he had to suddenly turn 180 from a standing start. So occasionally small nippy players could get a couple of steps on him in those situations. But that's true for basically any player his size, and 9 times out of 10 Smalling would just go through the gears and easily catch back up anyway.
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You forgot that fastest one of them all.... Ronny Johnsen.
 
Floyd said:
How is our depth awful with Maguire and Lindelof as back up central defenders? I think that's as good as can be expected for reserves.
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Ok let me put it like this then. The standards drop massively when our first choice CBs are out.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ok let me put it like this then. The standards drop massively when our first choice CBs are out.
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That we can agree on.

It's the curse of having so damn good first choice CBs :drool:
 
The biggest problem with trying to sell him is that he's on 190k a week. The sort of clubs that might be interested in him (West Ham, Everton Palace) won't be prepared to pay him that much.
 
SadlerMUFC said:
Because they have money to burn. Newcastle is trying to establish themself as a big player. It's not going to happen in the first couple years, so they might as well break the bank and deal with whatever threat UEFA throws their way should they break FFP...
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Why would they do that? Newcastle is already doing good and if we do not get our shit together they will finish above us. And is he really better than their CB? Leicester did us dirty and we would be lucky if we get 20M for him.
And FFP is joke, Newcastle is just waiting their spot in CL to go wild.
 
Wing Attack Plan R said:
Other than Saka who terrorized the French? Shaw who didn’t put a foot wrong? Rice? Kane had the spotlight feckup but he wa La good outside of the missed pen. The only players Maguire was better than were Stones and Pickford.
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Twas a joke...
 
SWE-Chucky said:
Just imagine:

------------------------Courtois
---Militao - Rudiger - Militao - F.Mendy
---------Tchouaméni - Camavinga
--------------------Bellingham
-------Valverde - Mbappe - Vini Junior

Insane. And have one the biggest talent in the world joining in 18 months, and probably even more big signings. They will probably get Gvardiol and wouldn't be surprised if the grab Dalot from us. A back four of Dalot - Militao - Gvardiol - Mendy, 2 of the biggest defensive MF talents + Bellingham as box to box in front of them and then a trio that is already world class and will only get better. On paper it looks like one of the best teams ever (Milan early 90s, United 2008, Barcelona 2007-2014, Real Madrid with their CL run etc etc could compete).

-----------------------Courtois
---Dalot - Gvardiol - Militao - F.Mendy
---------Tchouaméni - Camavinga
--------------------Bellingham
-------Valverde - Mbappe - Vini Junior

Wow, the longest non point post ever but i just had to put it down "paper" when i started to think about what can happen, or most likely, at least 9-10 out of the 11 will play together soon.

Sorry for this post guys, hope nobody gets upset about the post. Cheers!
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Madrid’s facilities can now perform human cloning too? What hope remains for the rest of us?
 
Maguire can be half decent in the right setup (deep line). Unfortunately not many top clubs work with such systems. He'll either have to take a pay cut or else he'll remain at OT. Alternatively we might have to pay some of his salary.
 
Greck said:
It's not you, it's me.
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No eggs - no omelettes! It depends on the quality of the eggs. In the supermarket you have class one, two or class three eggs and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelette.
 
I'm always grateful for him for breaking our defenders jinx. Prior to him, none of our defenders can last more than 10 games without breaking something. He came in, always available and were ok performance wise.

He obviously wont be our first choice CB if he stay so I'll be happy if he stays.
 
Are there any takers of him for a decent enough fee, seems to me no one is seriously considering buying him.
 
izak said:
Are there any takers of him for a decent enough fee, seems to me no one is seriously considering buying him.
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There will be plenty would take him in the summer. We won't be selling in January.
 
Sky1981 said:
Taking these with a pinch of salt, Managers aren't known for being brutally honest. He's not gonna swing "Maguire is useless and I want to sell him ASAP" on the record.
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Of course. ETH isn't gonna kill a guy like Jose would and kill all his value because of pettiness. Best way to sell him is to talk him up. Guy was still saying he wanted Ronaldo when Ronaldo was nothing but a bellend towards him.
 
So half of this article has already proved to be nonsense (no extension for Fred). Although guessing Maguire will leave is a fairly safe bet still.
 
Leftback99 said:
So half of this article has already proved to be nonsense (no extension for Fred). Although guessing Maguire will leave is a fairly safe bet still.
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I think it's fairly obvious he leaves now. He won't get in the Euro's squad for England not playing for United, and United are in the market for another CB it seems.
 
crossy1686 said:
I think it's fairly obvious he leaves now. He won't get in the Euro's squad for England not playing for United, and United are in the market for another CB it seems.
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Sterling and Maguire will get in to any England squad no matter how they perform.
 
As I've said before, the ideal scenario is getting a decent deal for him in January after a decent showing for England.

The latter part of that has happened. He's a default starter for England, played every match - even after a decidedly underwhelming start of the season for United.

Surely, there will be takers.

We obviously won't be getting our money back. But that was never going to happen. He was overpriced as feck, everyone and his dead dog could've told you that.

Forty mill? That would be grand, I think. But thirty mill would be good (enough) too.

As for keeping him - no. I don't think ETH wants him. Meaning: I think ETH would prefer to move him on rather than keeping him as back-up (which is what he clearly would be, everything points to this).
 
crossy1686 said:
Unfortunately he only plays for England once every 3 months though
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Yeah but it is not as if Harry Maguire's only decent performances in his career have been with England. That is just the recent story.

He still made his way up the ranks from Sheffield United, to Hull, to Leicester to Man Utd. He's convinced one or two people in the process that he is a good player, so I don't think recent United performances preclude there being interest for him at a level.

That's the key, the interest is likely to be from certain profile of clubs with a certain style of play. Whether the finances work out for all involved is a big question.
 
Abraxas said:
Yeah but it is not as if Harry Maguire's only decent performances in his career have been with England. That is just the recent story.

He still made his way up the ranks from Sheffield United, to Hull, to Leicester to Man Utd. He's convinced one or two people in the process that he is a good player, so I don't think recent United performances preclude there being interest for him at a level.

That's the key, the interest is likely to be from certain profile of clubs with a certain style of play. Whether the finances work out for all involved is a big question.
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He was great for us in his first season, to the point where we were worried about the EL final (which we lost) because he was injured. But that was a long time ago now and playing for United under different management that don't want us to defend the box, then break on the counter has really highlighted his weaknesses.

I think we can sell him, and we will but clubs that can afford to bid for him, where he thinks he deserves to play, the salary he thinks he deserves and the clubs that will bid for him need to align, and I get the feeling that's a pool of about 2 or 3 clubs in the PL.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
As I've said before, the ideal scenario is getting a decent deal for him in January after a decent showing for England.

The latter part of that has happened. He's a default starter for England, played every match - even after a decidedly underwhelming start of the season for United.

Surely, there will be takers.

We obviously won't be getting our money back. But that was never going to happen. He was overpriced as feck, everyone and his dead dog could've told you that.

Forty mill? That would be grand, I think. But thirty mill would be good (enough) too.

As for keeping him - no. I don't think ETH wants him. Meaning: I think ETH would prefer to move him on rather than keeping him as back-up (which is what he clearly would be, everything points to this).
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30 would be a good price and is realistic though wages may have an impact. Surely West Ham would be a good fit, he seems to work well with Rice in front of him and West Ham love an England international. Also back to Leicester? Why not.
 
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