Typical of how badly the club is managed. Should have got Klopp in and sacked Wenger once Klopp was available.
Unai Emery - Ex-Arsenal Manager
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Typical of how badly the club is managed. Should have got Klopp in and sacked Wenger once Klopp was available.
Overall he did a fine job and won every cup possible in France.
That would have been incredibly harsh. The board were happy to let Wenger soak up the abuse from the fans and happy with Wenger himself until the fans turned on the board. Maybe if they'd allowed him to spend £150m one summer he might have done a decent job.
Soon we'll have kids who thought the Emirates was named after Emery.
He also somehow managed to not win the league in his first season despite it being a 1 team league
Team he was competing with got 95 points tbf.
Sure when another team reaches 95 points in the league and the CL semis it's a 1 team league...
The fans turned on the board long before they turned on Wenger. Most fans tried to put the blame on the board to protect Wenger until this season and last when it became clear the problem was Wenger.
Looking at Wengers transfer record over the last 5 years and how poorly the team was playing, combined with Spurs and Pool leaving us in the dust despite spending less, not sure what else Wenger could expect. Awful record against the others in the top 6, humiliation in the Coca Cola cup, marooned in 6th place miles away from qualifying for the CL never mind first place. Couldn’t even deliver his first ever European trophy.
Time for a change and it’s long overdue. Klopp should have come in the moment he became free Wenger has lost it for a few years now.
In the French league it doesn't sound so impressive. Conte won the the premier league with 93.
Safe appointment, Emery won't get them challenging for the title. Arteta would have been much more interesting.
Arsenal isn't a badly run cub. Where do you guys get this information?
The league is actually very competitive.
PSG have won 5 of the last 6 titles. The year they didn't win it (Emery was in charge), they finished 2nd.
Last season when Monaco won it there was a 9 point gap between 2nd and 3rd. There was a 17 point gap between 1st and 3rd.
It's not very competitive.
Yeah, not sure how competitive but teams play very defensive and compared to previous seasons, 95 points was too much to handle.
Last few seasons,
2011-12: 82 points
2012-13: 83 points
2013-14: 89 points
2014-15: 83 points
2015-16: 96 points
2016-17: 95 points
2017-18: 93 points
Really disappointed that Arsenal have chosen to replace their long-standing manager with an established quality manager with a history of winning things rather than an hilariously under-qualified simpleton who just happens to have been born in the same city as the previous manager - where's the fun in that? 
He seems to be a very at par manager till now. He got Valencia to the level they were at. He won the title with PSG when Monaco had receded. Only his time at Seville could be said to be slightly above par. Of course, he's still young in managerial terms and one can hope he's picked up a few tips to make him better.
Read what I said.
Where did I say 3rd position is ok? I said the worst that could happen with a risky appointment is they finish 3rd.
Not sure about him,in my opinion a lot of his Sevilla success is on Monchi who is best football director in Europe. His first season in Roma and they already achieved their best European result in last 40 years or so.
Neymar is probably a big factor in that, no other coach had the luxury of playing him and mbappe.
Real Sociedad really wanted him, by the way. They were probably his backup club if the Arsenal offer didn't pan out.
Utd could do with the intensive pressing stuff
Get the feeling that the more other teams do it, the less and more defensive we would be.
Well, we go for "intensively depressing", close enough innit.
This post alone gives me depression. Let me get over this pathetic season mate!
Basically put Ozil for sale? Good luck getting good fee with the wage he's on and that lengthy contract.
Who is this L'pool supporter in this pic? Even after losing the final still photobomb with 5 times la... What a cheek
The irony in your 2 post. Bring up the topic then talking about getting over.
The trend of more too clubs moving this way has been happening for a while.
Whatever i see on the pitch, its easy to deduce that we only do defensive drills. None of our players look happy or appear to be enjoying football.
I also don't think anything will change next season.
If only ever jose considers to adapt, he could be one of the best managers. His understanding of the defensive aspect is so good, his in-game management is brilliant. If only he introduces a sense of rythm and attacking patterns, this team can go very far.
If only.
93 points with Neymar and Mbappé, 87 points without them just after losing Zlatan and a shit transfer window.
He is the new "head coach" in Arsenal, similar role to Conte in Chelsea. Our squad is too big now with no CL 2 years in a row. We need to trim the squad and cut the wage bills. We probably need to copy Chelsea's model 2 years ago and have a very good 16 players squad to rely on, and fill the space with young players promoted by Wenger like AMN,Nelson, Willock.
One of the funniest thing in Arsenal is, we sold Szczęsny to Juventus for €12.2 million last summer as Buffon replacement, and now we need to find a replacement for Cech ourselves.
One of the funniest thing in Arsenal is, we sold Szczęsny to Juventus for €12.2 million last summer as Buffon replacement, and now we need to find a replacement for Cech ourselves.
Keep this on Arsenal and Emery please.
Not every thread needs to be a rerun of the same old posts.
Not every thread needs to be a rerun of the same old posts.
While I think they weren' sure who was replacing Wenger, I think Arsenal have been setting the club up for life without Wenger. Who knows whether it will work, but they've clearly been proactive.
With Wenger under performing I guess they could make these changes, while under SAF we were still competitive so changes to the structure while he was there may have been frowned upon.
With Wenger under performing I guess they could make these changes, while under SAF we were still competitive so changes to the structure while he was there may have been frowned upon.
Liked all of his comments during the press conference, especially when he mentioned he only wanted players who we're demanding and hard-workers. So thrilled with him coming in, yes every arsenal's fan's first choice would've probably of been Allegri but he was a long long shot.
Also positive signs - Gazidis mentioning the transfer budget, and how arsenal never release public statements on where they are financially, but he said funds would be there for whenever the manager needed it. So them £50m stories in the papers are clutching at thin air.
Exciting times to be a Gooner, not expecting an instant impact this season, hopefully a long cup run, trophy, maybe top 4? Who knows. Definitely not the title.
Also positive signs - Gazidis mentioning the transfer budget, and how arsenal never release public statements on where they are financially, but he said funds would be there for whenever the manager needed it. So them £50m stories in the papers are clutching at thin air.
Exciting times to be a Gooner, not expecting an instant impact this season, hopefully a long cup run, trophy, maybe top 4? Who knows. Definitely not the title.
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Obviously he's a huge upgrade on Arteta,but I"m not too perturbed....I don't Expect Arsenal to qualify for the CL next season...
I still can't believe you lot did thatReally disappointed that Arsenal have chosen to replace their long-standing manager with an established quality manager with a history of winning things rather than an hilariously under-qualified simpleton who just happens to have been born in the same city as the previous manager - where's the fun in that?
It depends on what you consider to be a well run club.
If a well-run club is one that marshals its resources to achieve the greatest probability of success on the pitch, then Arsenal is indeed poorly run.
IF a well-run club is one whose sole goal is maximizing profits then Arsenal is fairly well-run.
The problems with current board begin with Kroenke and the stadium. As Usmanov has pointed out over the last 10 years, there are several ways to finance a stadium for a club. The best option for the health of the club itself, is for the owners to essentially lend the club some of their own money to pay down the bank debt and then the club owes the owners the money. This is the best for the health of the club because the club's finances do not accrue extra interest.
Considering how utterly poor our deals were to finance the Emirates, Kroenke failure to do this (Usmanov called it the "rights issue") indicates an extreme focus on maximizing personal profits of Kroenke rather than maximizing the efficacy of the Arsenal football club.
Additionally we see a string of baffling decisions from the Kroenke board such as the miserly insistence on keeping £200 million cash in the bank at a time when that money would have been far better invested into playing assets. What is suspicious is that while keeping this cash in the bank for Arsenal was unnecessary for Arsenal finances, Kroenke was taking out a £500 million loan for his personal ranch and financing a $1 billion loan package for his stadium and property re-development for his LA Rams (important to remember he is not just building a stadium but re-developing commercial property as he did with his sweetheart deals with WalMart.
We refused to invested over a few million in Higuian and then Suarez. Being excessively miserly and risk averse damaged the club heavily on the pitch. Either one of those signings would have improved us on the pitch and then turned a greater profit! But Kroenke's strategy is "penny wise, pound stupid".
On top of all of this personal greed, Arsenal has been utterly atrocious in the commercial deal department. This rubbish was touted as some advantage of Kroenke 10 eyars ago, yet Kroenke's team has failed miserably.
~12 years ago, Arsenal was at its most marketable globally. We also achieved roughly 70% of United's commercial revenues. Yet now we have fallen so far behind in 12 years that we only account for about 40% of United's commercial revenue.
Considering the period I refer began a few years out from the Invincibles and CL finalists and Arsenal were a stronger global brand than now, this can only be seen as a massive failure for the commercial department of Arsenal board.
On top of that Kroenke is just a cnut. During the Suarez saga, Liverpool's owner John Henry spoke out publicly on behalf of his club "what are they smoking at Emirates". Meanwhile Silent Stan is off wanking to murdering endangered species letting John Henry make him look like a fool. I want an owner that cares about the club even superficially like John Henry who is willing to stand up and represent the club with honor and passion. Kroenke is just a selfish, corporate clown.
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Superb post on top. Sums up everything I was going to say and more.
Excellent post as usual.