Looks like Arsenal are serious about winning the Europa league next season.
Unai Emery - Ex-Arsenal Manager
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Going to need to give him a few years to get rid of the deadwood in that squad, and let him make his own improvements. No idea how transfers will go as he won't have a say In them, that's down to Sven / Ivan / Raul. Cautious about this season, could be a successful one, or could be an eye opener on the massive job ahead of us to be getting back in contention for the league again.
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I'm actually surprised he has an official website than being surprised at the news.
Is Sky announcing it before Arsenal?
they got the Twitter handle wrong btw
Be funny as feck if they don’t.
Yeah it's a bit weird that.
I'm actually happy. I'm assuming the Wenger last minute 50p bids will now be stopped. Emery seems like he isn't into the subtle crap and will go out and get what he wants done.Is Sky announcing it before Arsenal?
Arsenal really want to win the Europa League huh.
It doesn't matter who Arsenal appoint unless their board are ready to pump a few hundred million into their squad. With rumours of 50m ,plus whatever money they can recoup from sales, being their summer budget it is going to leave whoever is in charge with a thankless task.
He will not be in control of the transfers.
Arsene - Arsenal
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I see a pattern here.
Emery - Emirates
I see a pattern here.
Matt Law's article in the Telegraph says Emery was the only one willing to accept the 50 million budget.
I thought it was a baseless rumor, but 50 million is a new low by Kroenke if true, in today's market. Not even sure if the player sales will be reinvested in transfers.
I thought it was a baseless rumor, but 50 million is a new low by Kroenke if true, in today's market. Not even sure if the player sales will be reinvested in transfers.
Aubameyang's fee was probably part of the summer budget. Clubs generally don't plan on breaking their transfer record for a striker to replace another striker who was bought for a transfer record just 6 months ago. Adding Auba's fee would be around 110m, which sounds realistic.
Basically you're saying it's like us giving the job to Fellaini?I wouldn't compare Mikel to Carrick at all. Carrick was with you 12 years winning everything with you.
Arteta was only an Arsenal player for 5 years and the last two of those years he was virtually retired as his body was gone. He really was only a useful contributor for two seasons. And he never ever seemed like he was an "Arsenal man" to me. Always seemed like he was still more an Everton man. Just like Cech. Cech has always been a Chelsea man even though he will, tragically, end up playing at Arsenal for probably 5 years total as well. But Cech was not, is not and will never be an Arsenal man.
I just don't see it with Arteta as manager. He was neither an important player in Arsenal's history nor has he ever seemed like he cared about the club at all. I personally don't see him as the next Arrigo Sacchi so I think his appointment to Arsenal after just two years as a member of Pep's staff (not even his no.2 in reality) would have been a horrible move and doomed to failure.
Emery might not have been my first choice but there are probaly a dozen managers I feel far more excited about than Arteta.
And to be honest as an Arsenal fan, I would love it if you appointed Carrick instead of Mourinho
I think your club had a look at ours and how Woodward conducted transfers and manager appointments in the last 4 years, then decided to do the exact opposite. Can't blame them.
I think your club had a look at ours and how Woodward conducted transfers and manager appointments in the last 4 years, then decided to do the exact opposite. Can't blame them.
Why? If their board is half as competent as Woodward, then they would do well
I think your club had a look at ours and how Woodward conducted transfers and manager appointments in the last 4 years, then decided to do the exact opposite. Can't blame them.
It seems like Gazdis wanted it set up like this for a while but, Wenger always fought him on it.
What??? As it regards football competency and building a squad, Woodward is a failure. If you're talking about the financial windfall from 40 or so sponsorship deals, Ed Woodward is on track to be knighted. As a supporter, I know what matters.
His Galactico fetish coupled with his pedestrian transfer negotiating skills is a terrible combination. The way they are set up at the minute, the club need a DOF in the worst way. The vision and execution are just poor. And say what you want about Arsenal, they have enormous cash reserves. Bean counter Ed would approve.
Did Emery manage Llenglet at Sevilla? I think he would instantly improve your defence. In fact, he and Sokratis in with mustafi and koscielny departing could be great business.
They are not going to buy based on whom Emery wants or has worked with. That isn't part of the deal. Mislintat will call the shots.
The guy from Dortmund? Well that counts Sokratis in.. At least they have somewhat of a plan
Yeah they hired him from BVB.
'Head coach' basically confirms the rumours of not having full control
Even if they are, who can they sell for any decent value? Lacazette?
It's not. Leaving aside that during these seasons Sevilla had anything but an extended roster which made him prioritize cups (EL victory brought CL iirc) he was also coaching Valencia for four seasons before. He took them over when they finished 10th, rebuilt them and made them finish 3rd place behing Real/Barça for four consecutive seasons. Don't know what happened with Spartak but Emery sure is an above average manager and gunners could do a lot worse.
Hopefully Utd will move in the same direction too. Will be interesting to see what Emery does.
Quietly optimistic - like what I read about him, and his focus on detail and tactical structures are exactly what the team needs after Wenger. Very positive ‘leak’ about his presentation to the board as well.
The risk is similar imo, mainly because of the difference in objectives. Arsenal have a squad to challenge for top four, same way as Barca and Madrid have a squad to challenge for the league title. I'd even say the pressure to win every game at the Spanish super clubs makes it more risky to go for a left-field appointment. You think 3rd position is okay for them? It's not. It's unthinkable, and a sackable offence for the manager. I distinctly remember the scrutiny Guardiola was under after a slow start at Barca.
Do agree with you on Bayern though. Their monopoly in the league provides room for error, which probably shows in their most recent appointment.
Tbh, I don't think Emery over Arteta has much to do with risk. It is, simply put, the better choice. You would call Arteta a gamble if his ceiling was higher, but it's not. He's not even an out-and-out Arsenal man! (This is where I also find comparisons with Guardiola and Zidane wrong. Giggs was the better comparison in that respect.)
The 50m Budget is bogus, Ornstein confirmed on 5 live it's a misunderstanding.
Who told you this? I’m sure the manager will have a say on signing players to fit the game plan.
I think he's an ok appointment but apparently he cant deal with players acting up, if the Arsenal players down tools (like they seem to always do) he's in trouble.
It's on the board anyway, you could have Pep but if the reported £50m budget is true then he wouldn't do anything either.
His job title is Head Coach not Manager, he'll have an input probably, but it won't be down to him.
All said and done, happy that he's got a good job to make progress in his career. Always liked Emery, he's very soft spoken and intelligent. PSG had too much player power for him to succeed.
Wish him the best for as long as Arsenal is not our rival for the big prizes.
Wish him the best for as long as Arsenal is not our rival for the big prizes.
Nah, you've got that wrong. Valencia finished 6th after his first season in charge. They had finished 10th the season before but that was obviously a bit of a freak bad season because they'd finished 4th the season before that one and 3rd the year before. And let's not forget that Benitez was actually winning La Liga titles with the same club not long before that. They also finished 5th the season after he left (before going into a decline more recently).
As for Sevilla, finishing 5th, 5th and 7th is arguably not even a par finish for that club. They finished 4th the season after he left and between 2006 and 2011 they finished 3rd, 5th, 3rd, 4th and 5th in consecutive seasons.
He does deserve some credit for the cups and for getting some consistency out of Valencia for a few years but - like I said - never looked like having the same impact on La Liga as the likes of Simeone or Benitez.
Joke that Arsenal had no clue who was going to replace Wenger despite his neck being on the block for years now
Right, apologies! Failed to research that carefully, my bad. I'd still say that he's an above average league coach though. Certainely in the same mould, if not above (game has changed), Benitez, but a level below Simeone obviously - one of the hot shots of managers atm.
How dumb. Building a squad is upto a manager. His job is to back him by giving him financial backing. Arsenal board have 50m net spend budget allocations. Seems very less and it’s not like they have players who they can sell for big bucks.
None of the signings we made have ever been Woodward’s own signing. It’s based on manager’s needs, except maybe falcao. Woodward is extremely competent in what he does and is undoubtedly better than most in his position
He doesn't have a Galatico fetish at all. Ed's constantly said appointing Klopp as United manager would have been a hipster dream (before Liverpool) and he hates watching all the best players in the world going to Spain, and that someone has to stop that from happening. Call that what you want but we should have some of the best players in the world at our club if we're going to compete at the level we should be.
Also, we've done the majority of our business early in the summer since Mourinho joined but we did most of our business under Moyes very late in the summer. If you're going to blame anyone for negotiations dragging on, blame people like dithering Dave.
I think they could improve significantly & quite quickly with some decent signings because the deficiency / strength areas are so obvious.
On the other hand if Ozil & Aubameyang start thinking it isn't going anywhere, things could get also get quite messy fairly soon. This guy needs to act fairly quickly for me, I don't see any honeymoon / comfy settling in time being on the cards.
The away form suggests an underlying problem it isn't freakishly unfortunate is it? Compared to what happens in home games even, where they can score plenty & win games.
On the other hand if Ozil & Aubameyang start thinking it isn't going anywhere, things could get also get quite messy fairly soon. This guy needs to act fairly quickly for me, I don't see any honeymoon / comfy settling in time being on the cards.
The away form suggests an underlying problem it isn't freakishly unfortunate is it? Compared to what happens in home games even, where they can score plenty & win games.