Pretty similar to them last year really. Top four only, not really challenging for the league. But he deserves more time to get a full verdict. But if this is how he performs, likely not much different from Wenger then.So what’s the verdict after 19 games so far? Has he improved you massively over Wenger?
Not quite sure what to make of him yet. At times Arsenal look mouth-watering, then they collapse mentally...look as though they lack any real steel.
Perhaps Wenger left too much of his stamp on them then. He's got his work cut out.
Arsenal have looked better in the bigger games so far to me (which was always Achilles heel under Wenger). They were unlucky to get Man. City and Chelsea first up, would do better against both now.
Eh?
From the same set of fixtures Wenger beat Spurs. Drew with Chelsea. Lost to City and United.
Emery beat Spurs, drew against United and lost to City and Chelsea.
So have they done better in big games?
With Wenger it just got stale near the end rather than focusing on the big games. The away record was shocking.
Kicked a water bottle at a fan accidentally. Refs won’t include it in their report.
No manager is competing with that squad.Marginally (at best) better than under Wenger.
Frankly, Emery isn't the quality of manager required to propel them back into title contention any time soon.
Exactly. Their squad is indeed about 5th best. Makes me laugh how the acolytes of our previous manager said how our squad is worse than theirs.5th was always their ceiling. He's had Rob Holding at CB for most games, Koscielny needs to be put down. If you think our defence is bad, their's is from hell. Their midfield is also nothing to write home about. The useless Xhaka, Torreira and a 19-year-old kid.
No manager is competing with that squad.
5th was always their ceiling. He's had Rob Holding at CB for most games, Koscielny needs to be put down. If you think our defence is bad, their's is from hell. Their midfield is also nothing to write home about. The useless Xhaka, Torreira and a 19-year-old kid.
No manager is competing with that squad.
This view fails to look at the entire picture. They were going nowhere under Wenger. Tactically, players not improving, consistently loosing games and an utterly poisonous atmosphere among fans .So they removed Wenger and got Emery to achieve exactly same results ? Why were everyone mocking Wenger then ? He was overachieving according to this logic.
This view fails to look at the entire picture. They were going nowhere under Wenger. Tactically, players not improving, consistently loosing games and an utterly poisonous atmosphere among fans .
In some ways, Emery has already imported some of those things and you can see he has a clear tactical plan. That already makes removing Wenger with it. There was no argument for keeping him.
Football fans don't base their mood simply on results. Fan psychology doesn't work like that. Fans will have a positive attitude as long as they believe their club is building towards something. They did not have that under Wenger. However, right or wrong, they believe they do under Emery and the new football operation.So they were challenging for top 4, playing decent football and winning odd cup, and it was poisonous atmosphere, but now, challenging for top 4, decent football and waiting for the odd cup and it's positivity and looking forward to the future as if they're going to splash the cash now. You guys have some weird definitions of progress. If we were mocking Wenger for these results then his successor should be too, imho.
Football fans don't base their mood simply on results. Fan psychology doesn't work like that. Fans will have a positive attitude as long as they believe their club is building towards something. They did not have that under Wenger. However, right or wrong, they believe they do under Emery and the new football operation.
Yeah, the jury is obviously still out but you can't blame them for at least trying to be positive after years of toxic negatively.They aren't going to splash the cash so don't where the optimism comes from.
Emery has the new manager aura around him now so fans are positive. 2-3 seasons in of challenging for 4th and 5th and let's talk about positivity.
Wenger was totally out of his depth at the end and left the squad in terrible state. Confidence levels were down, they were getting beat by average teams and humiliated against big teams. Emery has added a bit of steel and resolve and they seem a bit more competitive. Arsenal fans expectations from what I read and hear is no more than getting back into the champions league. A bit like us in 16/17. People said we progressed under Mourinho if you remember and it was much better than LVG despite staying in 6th for nearly the entire season. But was happy with the general direction we were goingSo they were challenging for top 4, playing decent football and winning odd cup, and it was poisonous atmosphere, but now, challenging for top 4, decent football and waiting for the odd cup and it's positivity and looking forward to the future as if they're going to splash the cash now. You guys have some weird definitions of progress. If we were mocking Wenger for these results then his successor should be too, imho.
I think he's about par. Our abomination of a season has made it look like they are exceeding expectations.He's exceeded expectations so far. Arsenal were a dark horse for the top four and they are in it still. And make no mistake, wenger left behind a shambles of a squad.
This season was always about rebuilding and for emery to learn about the Premiership.
Agree with this. In my opinion he's doing a great job. People who expected him to do better than this were not being realistic. Actually he's doing better than I expected. He had some players he needs to replace as soon as possible. Great coach really.Emery has done well, couple of his signings have made an impact and you can see they have a little more bite about them now. He's been there half a season, you can't expect them to have been utterly transformed. Pochettino, Guardiola and Klopp all experienced tough first seasons in the league, and now it's arguably more competitive than ever.
They're still staying in the top 4 race, which is all that could have been expected by any reasonable fan given how much they spent. They don't have a better squad than any of the top four and I honestly think United also have a superior team on paper.
Emery needs money, and time to properly stamp his methods on the club, same story with Sarri. There will be hiccups with a new manager asserting a unique style. There is little he can do when they suffer serious injury issues and can barely cobble together two central defenders.
So what’s the verdict after 19 games so far? Has he improved you massively over Wenger?
He is doing more than fine.
Their defense wasn't the best to begin with and now have had their first choice back 4 out and their back up central defenders out. What can you expect when Xhaka is one of your 2 central defenders?
Not really the truth , he has always had 2 Central defenders fit . He keeps playing 3 at the back with xhaka being one of the 3
