UEFA Champions League Matchday 1 fixtures (18th - 19th Sep 2018) | Kick off @ 17:55 and 20:00 BST

Christ i had them mixed up with the Russian team in city's group. Edit not city's group, Porto's group Locomotiv moscow i read it on an infograph on reddit which had them down a crevena zvzda or something (don't really pay much attention to Liverpool's group to be honest)

I wondered why some guy called me out to be banned.

Sorry for any offence i might of caused.
I smell shite.

You want promoted? This isn't how you get promoted.
 
In fairness to the guy, not many know them as FK Crvena Zvezda

livescore had it listed as
FK Crvena Zvezda 0 - 0 Napoli
 
The team Napoli played that nobody ever heard of will give them a better game than PSG did tonight.

Being a fan of their fierce rivals Partizan who sees them as a bunch of pricks with delusions of grandeur, this entertains me to no end. However, most United fans have heard of them, because of:

1. As others pointed out, the Munich Air Disaster
2. They won the European Cup in 1991. Not many clubs have won it, I would think that most football fans would have heard of all former winners.
3. United played and beat them in the European Super Cup that same year.
 
Why would it have an effect whatsover if your club consisting of 11 completely different players won it years ago?

I think he is right, the players usually buy into the history and hype. It is a mental thing, works the same way as home field advantage does.

With the travel and hotel facilities available nowadays, you would think that the importance of playing at home would decrease over the years and yet it has not.
 
I'll reiterate what I said before - PSG haven't built a proper team yet. They've bought a lot of fancy little parts but there's no clear vision or top class management to pull it all together. Despite the supposed ambition and spending, the back 4 and midfield doesn't perform at the biggest stage as well you'd expect IMO.

On the flip side, City have gotten it right. They've got a very clear style of play and have focused on defensive areas as well rather than just buying big name attackers.
 
I think he is right, the players usually buy into the history and hype. It is a mental thing, works the same way as home field advantage does.

With the travel and hotel facilities available nowadays, you would think that the importance of playing at home would decrease over the years and yet it has not.
Playing in your own familar stadium and with your supporters will always be prefered, the travel is just a footnote.

This rule of 'clubs need history in the competition to win stuff' works until it doesn't. There was a first time for everybody obviously. It took Barca 35 years to win their first EC and they've been the 2nd most successful club since then. 5 times champion Real had a 32 year title drought and lost in the semifinals 7 times in that period often to teams with no legacy.
 
Playing in your own familar stadium and with your supporters will always be prefered, the travel is just a footnote.

This rule of 'clubs need history in the competition to win stuff' works until it doesn't. There was a first time for everybody obviously. It took Barca 35 years to win their first EC and they've been the 2nd most successful club since then. 5 times champion Real had a 32 year title drought and lost in the semifinals 7 times in that period often to teams with no legacy.

I did not say it was a prerequisite to win things I just offered an explanation of how it could be helpful(or detrimental).
 
I'll reiterate what I said before - PSG haven't built a proper team yet. They've bought a lot of fancy little parts but there's no clear vision or top class management to pull it all together. Despite the supposed ambition and spending, the back 4 and midfield doesn't perform at the biggest stage as well you'd expect IMO.

I just watched the match and I agree. I do think the scoreline flattered PSG; what was that? For all the money they've spent they looked spineless. Tuchel has a lot of work to do.
 
I didnt watch the game but on paper that midfield looks a mess.
 
Before the game I said Tuchel's tactical inflexibility would cost them. It was ridiculous how easy it was for VVD to pick out TAA all game. Even if you fault Neymar's work rate (or lack thereof) it became obvious fairly early on that something had to be done about it, but Tuchel did nothing. If you dont want to give Neymar defensive responsibilities then Put Di Maria or Cavani out there to sacrifice for the team.

Despite conceding 2 goals I thought our defense was very good. Robertson was class and did as well as anyone can against Mbappe. VVD is so composed it rubs off onto Gomez, who has surely taken the Jersey of the world's best defender now, hope theres no looking back like TAA last season.

TAA was really good, the guy is a teenager playing against the best LW in football and didnt give him a sniff, admitedly with a lot of help from Milner who was class again. I think Trent looked even more dangerous than Neymar.

Our Midfield was superb, Milner, Wij, Henderson actually looked a top class midfield which is weird, Most Liverpool fans would tell you they want Keita and Fabinho starting.

Our front 3 looked disjointed as they have this season. Admitedly Sturridge isnt a regular, but hopefully they learn from Firmino and tart playing for each other soon. Salah looks like he has a lot on his mind, apparently its his row with the Egypiat FA. Hopefully it doesnt affect him for too long. I'm not too worried about him, even with the mistakes he made you can still see flashes of brilliance in his actions. Will be banging them in soon.

Sturridge was pretty good. Hope he stays fit; will be a great option to have all season, and hopefully earn himself a new contract.

Some said the Firmino celebration was cringeworthy...I mean comeon, that was class.
 
Sorry I'm abroad at the moment so trying to see if I can watch the United match when I land in Dubai for 9:30pm.

Why are kick offs changed to 7pm GMT out of curiosity? I thought it was always 7:45pm.

And 16:55? Seems bizzare!
 
Embarrassing seeing all these Liverpool fans on a united forum saying Salah needs to be benched for the next game. It's like kids in a sweet shop now our bench actually has a few semi decent players on. You've all been playing too much fifa, Salah is still one of our best players, benching him isn't going to help him. He's also still bagged the same amount of goals as Firmino in the league so far this season. He's only 1 goal behind what he had scored at this stage last season.

Fickle fans. Can't be doing with them!
 
Yet you can't stop write plaudits about them. Tagline really checks out.

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I was being pretty objective there, I made a post about Liverpool and you're the third poster to say 'lol tagline'. Whatever. I don't really get the obsession with Liverpool on this forum, they haven't been relevant for close to 30 years now.
 
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I was being pretty objective there, I made a post about Liverpool and you're the third poster to say 'lol tagline'. Whatever. I don't really get the obsession with Liverpool on this forum, they haven't been relevant for close to 30 years now.
Funny you talk about obsession. No hard feelings.
 
Sorry I'm abroad at the moment so trying to see if I can watch the United match when I land in Dubai for 9:30pm.

Why are kick offs changed to 7pm GMT out of curiosity? I thought it was always 7:45pm.

And 16:55? Seems bizzare!

Well the fixtures for tonight are 17:55 and 20:00 BST with most being at 20:00.

The move is to maximize TV coverage. A 2 hour gap is needed for the game, half time and added time so they don't overlap, hence why we have 8pm now.

My biggest concern is if United have a 6pm kick-off on a weekday. 7-8pm is ok as the rush hour has largely gone but getting to OT between 5-6pm will be murder.
 
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Well the fixtures for tonight are 17:55 and 20:00 GMT with most being at 20:00.

The move is to maximize TV coverage. A 2 hour gap is needed for the game, half time and added time so they don't overlap, hence why we have 8pm now.

My biggest concern is if United have a 6pm kick-off on a weekday. 7-8pm is ok as the rush hour has largely gone but getting to OT between 5-6pm will be murder.

Cheers mate. My flight is delayed so il probably miss most of tonight's game anyway.

I agree about rush hour matches, sounds quite rubbish.
 
Childish but not surprised


Again, matter of personal preference and there are benefits to smaller clubs. Smaller clubs who are knocked out of the UCL qualifying rounds (there are a lot of these teams) are still able to participate in Europe via the Europa league. Secondly, these rules you are emotional about weren't created to pander to the big clubs, it was made to bring quality to a competition that nobody was watching. Bigger clubs only started caring about the Europa league once they added to automatic qualification to the UCL for winners.


Um ok...


Yeah, that's it. The point is you're crying that the format of the UCL is ruining football when there is nothing to suggest that it has. It's merely your opinion masquerading as a fact.


What a ridiculous statement.
Did you think about it at all, or in your haste to get back at me just let your fingers loose?
So smaller clubs (who qualified for the so called CL) benefit as they will get another chance in the EL.
What about the smaller clubs that ACTUALLY qualified for the EL, whose place these teams who never qualified for the EL and get KNOCKED out of the so called CL take?

You seem to have a problem grasping what I am on about, right?
Some teams who qualify for the EL have 4 qualifiers to play before even entering the Group stages, the reason for so many qualifiers is to accommodate the teams who FAIL in the tournament they ACTUALLY qualified for.
Therefore reducing the chances of the SMALLER teams to progress and make some money from a tournament they ACTUALLY qualified for.

Anyone who thinks this is fine is clueless, you need to get out of your armchair and support your local team.

I would be embarrassed if the team I support got knocked out of Europe twice in one season :wenger:

Reply if you wish but I have a life to live and will not waste any more of your time sir, enjoy the BIG game.
 
"The Champions League is that cup were 31 teams compete for the right to lose to Real Madrid in the final"
 
You sure? The times in the image in the OP are in CET. I thought CET was 2 hours ahead of GMT.

Tonight's games are at 17:55 and 20:00 BST.

UK is in BST, British Summer Time which is one hour ahead of UTC/GMT.

Probably should update the thread to BST to avoid confusion.
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Smell shite ? Why the hell would i call red star belgrade a team no one ever heard of ?

It was a genuine mistake get over yourself.
Jesus Christ it was a joke, I was referencing Archer. Chill your tits.
 
"The Champions League is that cup were 31 teams compete for the right to lose to Real Madrid in the final"
Mate you've just been lucky to avoid Barca in those finals. If you had them in any of the finals you wouldn't have won.
 
Tonight's games are at 17:55 and 20:00 BST.

UK is in BST, British Summer Time which is one hour ahead of UTC/GMT.

Probably should update the thread to BST to avoid confusion.
Well, that's why I left it as GMT. So, it will be easy for anyone to convert to their local time. Everyone would know how ahead or behind their time zone is from the Universal time.
 
Well, that's why I left it as GMT. So, it will be easy for anyone to convert to their local time. Everyone would know how ahead or behind their time zone is from the Universal time.

Problem can come from people in the UK who are used to seeing GMT as our own UK time for half the year, as in the winter (late Oct- late March) we're on GMT. In a few weeks the clocks go back to GMT. Someone glancing at GMT can easily think you mean the current UK time. It has already had someone question why the game is on at 7pm tonight when it's really at 8pm.

Perhaps use UTC then to get people to look things up? It's not your fault and I know this forum is visited worldwide, just that GMT can mean the current UK time and everyone in the UK is used to 19:45 for CL games, typing GMT 7pm a few weeks before we turn the clocks back especially in this current weather and storms and nights already getting dark early can be confusing for some.
 
Bad news for Ajax; Matthijs de Ligt is out with a knee injury for tonight. Not a serious injury mind, but he won't play.
 
And what does your post have to do with what I posted, genius?

My thought would have been easily obvious to you if you were not so eager to tell us what we already know about Pep and SAF.

I'm agreeing with you mate. Lots of people try to pick out the next big thing of managers yet they are at that point because that's their level. Good managers show their quality almost straight away and win at the most high pressure moments.

There are so many managers that look amazing when everythings going well but can't handle key moments.
 
Problem can come from people in the UK who are used to seeing GMT as our own UK time for half the year, as in the winter (late Oct- late March) we're on GMT. In a few weeks the clocks go back to GMT. Someone glancing at GMT can easily think you mean the current UK time. It has already had someone question why the game is on at 7pm tonight when it's really at 8pm.

Perhaps use UTC then to get people to look things up? It's not your fault and I know this forum is visited worldwide, just that GMT can mean the current UK time and everyone in the UK is used to 19:45 for CL games, typing GMT 7pm a few weeks before we turn the clocks back especially in this current weather and storms and nights already getting dark early can be confusing for some.
I did think about the daylight saving thing but did not think it would matter much. Will change to BST in that case. Cheers!
 
He is part of the squad. I think there might be a little hope..
Oh really? Hope he makes it then. Imperative for Ajax to start the campaign with a comprehensive win. And in their recent form they should.

Though admittedly I know almost nothing about AEK.
 
Oh really? Hope he makes it then. Imperative for Ajax to start the campaign with a comprehensive win. And in their recent form they should.

Though admittedly I know almost nothing about AEK.
NOS journalist Jitse Bos, who follows Ajax on behalf of the public broadcaster, reports that Matthijs de Ligt would not be part of the selection if he absolutely could not play. 'The Amsterdam club is doing everything to get him fit, if necessary with medication,'

Let's hope so. If not, it would mean De Jong would have te replace him, which would be a shame too.
 
NOS journalist Jitse Bos, who follows Ajax on behalf of the public broadcaster, reports that Matthijs de Ligt would not be part of the selection if he absolutely could not play. 'The Amsterdam club is doing everything to get him fit, if necessary with medication,'

Let's hope so. If not, it would mean De Jong would have te replace him, which would be a shame too.
Honestly shouldn't risk it if you ask me. They should beat AEK without him and if they force it and he walks away with a serious injury, well that would suck.