UEFA Champions League Matchday 1 fixtures (18th - 19th Sep 2018) | Kick off @ 17:55 and 20:00 BST

They were impressive and defended really well, 2 goals and a 1 goal loss flatters PSG hugely. PSG though, fecking hell, wouldn't want to be in the trenches with some of their lads would you?
 
Third time messi open the CL with a hat-trick. The other times were 13/14 and 16/17

14 it is :drool:
 
As wonderful as Messi's hattrick was, I fear people might overlook just how good Dembele looked tonight. That run to win Messi's converted free kick was class, & if Mbappe had done that, we'd be hearing about it all week.
 
Tagline checks out. They have yet to play anyone of merit.

The team Napoli played that nobody ever heard of will give them a better game than PSG did tonight.

They got to the CL final last year with an inferior team and have started this season very well.. it's not hard to be objective and see that they are pretty good. I'd rather see them finish 20th and laugh about it but that won't suddenly make them not have a very good team.
 
PSG awful, poor tackle to give away the penalty and the third goal was just as bad, woeful defensively. They need a Mourinho or Conte type manager to get themselves sorted defensively. Also PSG first goal was offside, maybe Liverpool's first too in the build up, although didn't see it properly yet.

Spurs showing a lack of bottle again, can't be throwing it away like that. Awful, 3 defeats in a row, crisis?
 
He does not win titles blah blah blah and we have a proved title winner blah blah blah, this Looserpool team is advancing step by step towards the big titles with a team cost half what our team cost.

Oh don't worry. We're preparing our Liverpool half-and-half scarves as we speak. I mean why should I be bitter enough to deny that this team is going to sweep all before them in September? Obviously I'm just deluding myself by imagining that they might necessarily face stiff competition from better teams whom they have yet to play. Obviously.
 
We were good today. The scoreline does not represent the run of play, as we've conceded first one from offside in buildup and second from a lucky deflection.
I can't say any of our defenders were poor today. The fullbacks did their job well against such a pacy lineup, and helped greatly in attack. PSG created little to nothing with all their stars.
Sturridge has surprisingly put a good shift, lasted rather long. Wijnaldum was great again, and I can clearly justify Keita and Fabinho sitting on the bench. Shaquiri should have come in earlier though.
But I must say Salah was average today.

Napoli's result plays into our favor as well, so all looks fine so far.
 
It's funny how we all read a situation differently. I took it as a frustrated celebration, not petulance.
My first post on here btw. Hi all. You can learn a lot from the fans of other successfull clubs, even your rivals :)
My thoughts exactly. Also keep in mind he lost possession carelessly for the PSG equaliser.
 
Both the early games tomorrow are pretty gash, but absolutely spoiled for choice at 20:00.
 
Arm chair managers showing they are clueless. Theres a reason Guardiola is so highly rated, its not easy to play the way City do and maintain defensive solidity.

Thats also why SAF is the best manager ever. He was able to get the balance between attack defence at the right place for 2 decades.

And what does your post have to do with what I posted, genius?

My thought would have been easily obvious to you if you were not so eager to tell us what we already know about Pep and SAF.
 
Conversely, would Tuchel and Poch have set up the way Mourinho did against Sevilla?

It's a silly point to make.


Funny how Jose is being beaten to death over Sevilla. Every top manager can point to a few absolutely crappy performances in their life time. And for every such crappy performances, they can give you a long list of classics.

And what the heck has their 'flair' set up won Tuchel and Poch?
My point is, they cannot wipe Jose's shoes as far as club football management is concerned. At least not yet. They still have a lot to prove.
 
Funny how Jose is being beaten to death over Sevilla. Every top manager can point to a few absolutely crappy performances in their life time. And for every such crappy performances, they can give you a long list of classics.

And what the heck has their 'flair' set up won Tuchel and Poch?
My point is, they cannot wipe Jose's shoes as far as club football management is concerned. At least not yet. They still have a lot to prove.

That may be true, but it still has nothing to do with my point.

Putting 10 men behind the ball at Anfield is not the only way to approach the game.
 
They got to the CL final last year with an inferior team and have started this season very well.. it's not hard to be objective and see that they are pretty good. I'd rather see them finish 20th and laugh about it but that won't suddenly make them not have a very good team.
Yet you can't stop write plaudits about them. Tagline really checks out.
 
Red Star Belgrade... just the team that United played before the Munich Air Disaster, that's all.
Christ i had them mixed up with the Russian team in city's group. Edit not city's group, Porto's group Locomotiv moscow i read it on an infograph on reddit which had them down a crevena zvzda or something (don't really pay much attention to Liverpool's group to be honest)

I wondered why some guy called me out to be banned.

Sorry for any offence i might of caused.
 
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Yet you can't stop write plaudits about them. Tagline really checks out.

But this is the way of the modern world. We don't say what we feel, we say what others want us to say. Political correctness has even gripped the tribal world of football. Let's just be nice to each other & say nice things about each other. That way we'll all get along just fine & the world will be a better place.

Right ?
 
But this is the way of the modern world. We don't say what we feel, we say what others want us to say. Political correctness has even gripped the tribal world of football. Let's just be nice to each other & say nice things about each other. That way we'll all get along just fine & the world will be a better place.

Right ?
No.
 
European Cup games (especially Champions League) are all about experience, legacy and history in these competitions. That's why Inter & Liverpool beat teams with better individual quality. For the exact same reason i think the likes of City, PSG etc. will find it very difficult to win the CL.
 
European Cup games (especially Champions League) are all about experience, legacy and history in these competitions. That's why Inter & Liverpool beat teams with better individual quality. For the exact same reason i think the likes of City, PSG etc. will find it very difficult to win the CL.

That is silly since very few players on Liverpool's squad have tons of experience in the CL.
 
He was the main reason behind your good run last year and if you are going to have another good run this year then he will most likely still be the key even though he's not been that great so far. Let's say for some bizarre reason Klopp decides to bench him, do you really think that would sit well with Salah? I agree so far he's not been extraordinary like last year but I find it very odd you wan't him benched it would be a terrible decision and it would probably piss him off and the last thing you wan't to do is making your main man upset.
He was fantastic last season. But he hasn't been this season so far, and he was absolutely awful today. His worst performance for us so far.

He doesn't look right, and he should be benched against Southampton imo. Maybe that's what it takes to wake him up.

Besides.. Do you really suggest, that Klopp shouldn't bench Salah, because he might get pissed because of it?? What a weird suggestion. I hope he gets pissed. Actually, I hope he is pissed, which it looks like he is.

Salah is not THE key. He is an important part of our attack, but Mané and Firmino are equally important parts imo, and if Salahs performances doesn't warrant a place in the team, then he shouldn't be in it. Simple as.
 
He was fantastic last season. But he hasn't been this season so far, and he was absolutely awful today. His worst performance for us so far.

He doesn't look right, and he should be benched against Southampton imo. Maybe that's what it takes to wake him up.

Besides.. Do you really suggest, that Klopp shouldn't bench Salah, because he might get pissed because of it?? What a weird suggestion. I hope he gets pissed. Actually, I hope he is pissed, which it looks like he is.

Salah is not THE key. He is an important part of our attack, but Mané and Firmino are equally important parts imo, and if Salahs performances doesn't warrant a place in the team, then he shouldn't be in it. Simple as.

Agree with that but also I have to add, the last few games, the decisions Mane and Salah have made when they have gone forward for Liverpool have been very questionable. Against Tottenham you could see Klopp getting very angry with both Mane and Salah because of the choices they made during the game. At the moment I dont think its a big issue as it is early season, if however after 10 games its still an issue, then these are problems that may result in players getting dropped.
 
PSG are strange. With the resources they have they should be building a powerhouse capable of dominating Europe a la Real Madrid but instead they're wasting money on Buffon who's been past it for about 5 years, Bernat who isn't that good and Choupo-Moting speaks for himself. I know they've had some issues with FFP but even still their transfer dealings have been bizarre.

Some great goals scored tonight. Love that Dembele is finally showing how good he really is.
 
Agree with that but also I have to add, the last few games, the decisions Mane and Salah have made when they have gone forward for Liverpool have been very questionable. Against Tottenham you could see Klopp getting very angry with both Mane and Salah because of the choices they made during the game. At the moment I dont think its a big issue as it is early season, if however after 10 games its still an issue, then these are problems that may result in players getting dropped.
Yeah. They haven't clicked at all so far, but Mané has been great individually after all, which Salah hasn't.

But we have won the games, so it hasn't been highlighted, but we're definitely nowhere near as fluid in attack, as we should and can be.

Early days, but slightly worrying.
 
Liverpool throughly deserved to win that match. Showed great character after letting go a 2 goal slip.
 
I have to comment on PSG. Classed as a big team. Im sorry since when? Northampton Town could have a rich owner take over them, are they suddenly a big team? This is not me being an arrogant Liverpool supporter, I am simply posing the questions, does a rich club suddenly become a big one? With Chelsea and Man City, they were not big clubs, once they won the English league, which is a very hard league to win, then yes, they became big clubs. PSG won the French league, however, can anyone here argue that the french league is competitive? Indeed someone earlier compared it to the scottish league, indeed during the match they pointed out the goals Cavani has scored the last couple of seasons, they would look favourable elsewhere, in france however, not so.

So PSG have rich owners, spent ludicrous amounts of money, and yet look like two teams in one. An astute poster earlier summed it up: one set of 11 playing as a team v one set of 11 as individuals. Couldnt put it better myself. Look at PSG, they are like two teams in one, one team has a defence and midfield, and the other team are three players. The three players up front gave the impression that hey, we are here to take the glory, not work for it! Look at Mbappes celebration, did that give any indication whatsoever he appreciated the build up to that goal? did he acknowledge the work his defence and midfield have done all match long to keep the score respectable and to provide that chance for him? Of course he didnt.

And its this arrogance that will cost PSG. I get the impression Neymar and Mbappe are pretty much untouchable. The fees paid for them pretty much mean they can spend every match dreaming of what they will spend their money on rather than earning that money, as the fees paid for them demand that they play each and every game, and as long as the rest of the team do all the work, and they can steal the credit, and the worst of it is, they cannot offload these players without taking a huge loss financially.

PSG...A perfect example of how not to spend money.