UEFA Champions League Matchday 1 fixtures (18th - 19th Sep 2018) | Kick off @ 17:55 and 20:00 BST

Why are Spurs resting Trippier & Alderweireld in a Champions League game against Inter Milan in fecking September???

Modern football gives me a headache. Poor mentality. If they are injured I'll retract this, but I don't think they are.

3-1 Inter
 
Pink Moon said:
Yeah, it's almost like there's an obscene financial gulf between Celtic, Liverpool and PSG which might play a slight role in that.

What happened when we played Man City over both games? Undefeated. What happened when your lot last played them? Pumped 7-2 over both games.
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Ok??? That financial gulf isn't going to be made up by you getting in to the CL. Nobody is interested in the Scottish League outside of Scotland. Good players do not want to play in the Scottish League. Of course there's a financial gulf, but nobody is going to suddenly be tuning in to a horribly low quality league just because Celtic get put straight in to the groups.

We beat Manchester City the season you were undefeated against them, and drew with them away 2-2. They improved massively last season and would likely have battered you home and away, just like PSG did. In the CL last year we topped our group (beating Madrid in the process) and then went out by 1 goal against Juventus. We were competitive against every side we played against, in every single game. People like to watch competitive matches, not Celtic maybe putting in the odd respectable performance at home. I'm going to go on record here and say our current side would never lose 7-1 in a CL tie.

You don't deserve instant CL because you won a terrible league with no competition. Mid table Premier League teams would win your league. You have to prove that your dominance extends outside of dominating terrible league 1 level teams and thus you have to play qualifiers, whereas Spurs, Liverpool etc consistently face up against top level teams. The fact you think you 'deserve' instant access when clearly you can't even get past the likes of AEK Athens says it all, why on earth should you go straight through without even being able to beat the fodder?
 
Vorm, Aurier and Dier ... jesus, I'm going to need a few drinks before watching this one.
 
Schmeichel's Cartwheel said:
Why are Spurs resting Trippier & Alderweireld in a Champions League game against Inter Milan in fecking September???

Modern football gives me a headache. Poor mentality. If they are injured I'll retract this, but I don't think they are.

3-1 Inter
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I cannot make that out either. Surely if anyone needs to be rested it is Kane, who is way of form at the moment & needs a rest.
 
AlwaysRed66 said:
I cannot make that out either. Surely if anyone needs to be rested it is Kane, who is way of form at the moment & needs a rest.
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Trippier has apparently been pretty bad so far this season. Understandable he's rotated (they rotate fullbacks a lot anyway at Spurs). Aldwiereld is an odd choice though.
 
Why are some matches starting so early? I understand the Eastern European fixtures but not these.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
I could have sworn you bought a GK from Southampton the other day - why doesn't he play?
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We bought Gazzaniga last season, but he's really very much just a third choice. Though the one game he started I think he was MOTM.
 
MackRobinson said:
This is a bunch on nonsense.

TV is great for the fans who enjoy watching these teams play but live thousands of miles away. TV is great to the family who can't afford to purchase tickets. It's fecked up the game for the condescending, selfish football purists who foolishly believe their outspoken minority equates to the majority of football fans.

The bottom line is the popular teams are the ones feeding these tournaments. You honestly believe most fans would rather watch Dinamo Zagreb instead of Manchester United? Good luck with those huge TV contracts after eliminating most of the teams from the most popular leagues

You football purists really annoy the feck out of me. I'm glad you get to enjoy your local team, but please sit down and let the rest of us who don't have that same luxury enjoy the European football from the comfort of our living rooms without you climbing on your soap box every mid-week.
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You can do what you want, same as me.

This fantasy football is not for me, dont enjoy it at all.
Used to be Man Utd v. Real Madrid was a big game, now its just another game.
My gripe is with the TV companies and UEFA etc who do not give a shit about football, only money.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
They ain't that bad!
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Dier recently has been living up to his name, I used to think he was a very decent player and actually was a big defender of his, but his performances over the last season or so have been very poor. Vorm instils zero confidence (I don't think we concede either of those 2 goals vs Liverpool with Lloris starting) and the less said about Aurier the better, it's a foul a minute. Admittedly he has the odd decent moment and Trippier has been poor anyway, but it always frightens me when he starts.
 
No11 said:
You can do what you want, same as me.

This fantasy football is not for me, dont enjoy it at all.
Used to be Man Utd v. Real Madrid was a big game, now its just another game.
My gripe is with the TV companies and UEFA etc who do not give a shit about football, only money.
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Is it? How often does it happen in competitive mode?

For those who do not watch simulcasts but single matches apart from their own team - what matches do you watch? For me it is PSG vs Liverpool, soon Barcelona vs PSG (because of Marc v. Bommel as a coach) and tomorrow I might not watch the early match but my Bayern team later on. It is the big guys I am interested in - not the small ones.
 
IrishRedDevil said:
When Llorenete is the backup...you can't rest Kane.
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Trouble is Kane is out of form & in need of a rest, so in the long run it will help Spurs more. What happened to Jannsen? Is he still at the club, though when he did play was nervous as hell & didn't do much.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
They don't deserve a thing just because they won their 4th rate leagues. They need to prove that they aren't just good when they're up against championship (or probably less) quality teams. Very often they don't, so they don't qualify .. obviously teams that finish top four in Europe's top leagues are better than whatever team won Denmark's top tier league.

Also, the majority ARE 'glory hunting armchair fans'. Most football fans aren't hardcore local match goers, not everybody treats the game as seriously as you do. Most people are perfectly content with the current format and are very happy just watching a CL game on the TV after work or at the pub, and they would have zero interest in watching APOEL vs Krakow or whatever. People want to watch elite talents in competitive fixtures.

The teams that drop out of the CL very often actually win the Europa League (Chelsea, Atletico, Sevilla) because surprise surprise, the CL is a hell of a lot harder than the 4 qualifiers you play to get in the EL.
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When football was more a level playing field, Celtic were one of the best teams in Europe, Ajax, Gothenberg also.
Aberdeen 82-85 were a top European team.
The fact there is a huge gap now is not there fault, its the fault of UEFA who have created this fantasy football league feeding the big clubs.
And anyone who thinks it fair for teams to get knocked out of CL qualifiers or Group stage and go straight into the Europa League are absolute clowns, its embarrassing.
 
Dier has turned from a competent defensive midfielder into a lost child under Poch. It seems him being deployed as a defender has fried his brain and he can't compute anymore.

He had a very good season in 15/16 for Spurs, and has gotten worse since.
 
Inter have been rather meh in the league so far but Spalletti is a good tactician. Spurs might still find it a tough game, and they aren't doing so hot either. Almost an even match.
 
Blackwidow said:
Is it? How often does it happen in competitive mode?

For those who do not watch simulcasts but single matches apart from their own team - what matches do you watch? For me it is PSG vs Liverpool, soon Barcelona vs PSG (because of Marc v. Bommel as a coach) and tomorrow I might not watch the early match but my Bayern team later on. It is the big guys I am interested in - not the small ones.
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good for you.
 
No11 said:
When football was more a level playing field, Celtic were one of the best teams in Europe, Ajax, Gothenberg also.
Aberdeen 82-85 were a top European team.
The fact there is a huge gap now is not there fault, its the fault of UEFA who have created this fantasy football league feeding the big clubs.
And anyone who thinks it fair for teams to get knocked out of CL qualifiers or Group stage and go straight into the Europa League are absolute clowns, its embarrassing.
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Ok, but football is not going back to that. I don't know why you keep talking about the past as if it's possible to return to that, it's a complete fantasy. The TV money and advantages the teams in the biggest leagues have now is far too great, regardless of CL money, interest is not going to return to the Scottish League. Nottingham Forest used to be a great team but that is likely never to come back, it's irrelevant at this point in terms of competing in the here and now. Football has changed irreversibly since those teams you mentioned were greats of the game.

As has already been said by a number of posters, the gap created is not solely down to the UEFA, and would not be reversed if they went back to the old system. The CL money would come nowhere near to bridging the gap. That's just the way football is now, plenty of people (like myself) actually enjoy this change, you don't .. that's fine.

Also, what isn't fair? CL teams dropping in to the EL has made it more competitive and added some bigger teams in to the mix.
 
So you rest players in one of the hardest games you’ll play in the Champions League....to make sure that your players are rested to play Brighton......to try and qualify for the champions league?

This type of thinking never makes sense to me.
 
breakout67 said:
Dier has turned from a competent defensive midfielder into a lost child under Poch. It seems him being deployed as a defender has fried his brain and he can't compute anymore.

He had a very good season in 15/16 for Spurs, and has gotten worse since.
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He's always been a defender bar that anomalous season
 
Cloud7 said:
So you rest players in one of the hardest games you’ll play in the Champions League....to make sure that your players are rested to play Brighton......to try and qualify for the champions league?

This type of thinking never makes sense to me.
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We have no idea that this is what is happening.

It's perfectly possible that Sanchez has been introduced as a tactical change due to his pace, and Trippier is in poor form, with Aurier often coming in for CL games.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
We have no idea that this is what is happening.

It's perfectly possible that Sanchez has been introduced as a tactical change due to his pace, and Trippier is in poor form, with Aurier often coming in for CL games.
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It’s possible, but I was more making a point about when it happens in general, and the thought was just brought on by this match. For instance when Brendan Rodgers rested players against Madrid at the Bernabeau, that sort of thing where there was no obvious tactical reasoning. Fair enough if there may be tactical reasons in this instance, but you can’t deny that it does happen.
 
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