Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation

Even Glenn Greenwald is saying this memo stuff shouldn't be taken seriously and he'd usually be all over a story about government surveillance. He suggests that if there was anything really significant in it that one of the republicans on the committee would've released it already which makes sense in light of Feinstein unilaterally releasing the Fusion GPS testimony recently. The suggestion being that the memo remaining unreleased could be more effective for them than what's actually in it.
 
Raulduke said:
Even Glenn Greenwald is saying this memo stuff shouldn't be taken seriously and he'd usually be all over a story about government surveillance. He suggests that if there was anything really significant in it that one of the republicans on the committee would've released it already which makes sense in light of Feinstein unilaterally releasing the Fusion GPS testimony recently. The suggestion being that the memo remaining unreleased could be more effective for them than what's actually in it.
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Anything with Nunes' prints on it will obviously have no credibility. This will likely blow over in a few days when Trump/Hannity/Nunes and others find a new plot to push.
 
Raulduke said:
Even Glenn Greenwald is saying this memo stuff shouldn't be taken seriously and he'd usually be all over a story about government surveillance. He suggests that if there was anything really significant in it that one of the republicans on the committee would've released it already which makes sense in light of Feinstein unilaterally releasing the Fusion GPS testimony recently. The suggestion being that the memo remaining unreleased could be more effective for them than what's actually in it.
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Snowden too, I just posted a few tweets in the Trump thread.
 
I see simpson talked about farage delivering usb drives of data to assange in those just released transcripts.

As much as I want trump and the entire gop executive to go down from this, nothing would give me greater joy than to see farage led away for treason.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
I see simpson talked about farage delivering usb drives of data to assange in those just released transcripts.

As much as I want trump and the entire gop executive to go down from this, nothing would give me greater joy than to see farage led away for treason.
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Oh heavens yes.
 
Democrats should be pushing like hell for this to be released so it can be dissected. How keep Nunes is to keep it under wraps will tell you everything.
 
Raoul said:
I'm surprised Farage's vistits to Assange haven't been covered more closely. What business would he possibly have to repeatedly visit him ?

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/glen-simpson-testifies-nigel-farage-met-gave-data-assange
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Any idea how separate the Ecuadorian Embassy is from UK law? Obviously Assange has political asylum there so they much have some level of legal autonomy. If someone was to put in a FOI request as to how many times and when Farage has visited Assange, would they be legally obliged to produce the visitor records?

In fact I think a FOI for the records of any visitors to Assange would be quite interesting.
 
Pexbo said:
Any idea how separate the Ecuadorian Embassy is from UK law? Obviously Assange has political asylum there so they much have some level of legal autonomy. If someone was to put in a FOI request as to how many times and when Farage has visited Assange, would they be legally obliged to produce the visitor records?

In fact I think a FOI for the records of any visitors to Assange would be quite interesting.
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The UK intel community will know how many times Farage has visited the embassy. Its under surveillance.
 
Fergies Gum said:
The UK intel community will know how many times Farage has visited the building. Its under surveillance.
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Of course they will, I'm just thinking it would be good to get it out in the public domain. I'm sure there's a few other British Politicians who have some explaining to do... *cough* Boris *cough*
 
Raoul said:
I'm surprised Farage's vistits to Assange haven't been covered more closely. What business would he possibly have to repeatedly visit him ?

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/glen-simpson-testifies-nigel-farage-met-gave-data-assange
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The media in general seem very reluctant to talk about this whole thing and its relationship to brexit. Its not just farage, they barely cover the DUP dark money thing and where Banks got his money from either.

Even the press opposed to brexit seem unwilling to shine too much of a light on all of this, which suggests that there may be pressure coming from higher up, perhaps intel agencies still investigating it all?

There has to be a reason, this story is bread and butter to the independent or guardian under normal circumstances.
 
Pexbo said:
Of course they will, I'm just thinking it would be good to get it out in the public domain. I'm sure there's a few other British Politicians who have some explaining to do... *cough* Boris *cough*
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I think it would be unlikely the Ecuador embassy would be cooperative if they're handed foia requests.

If the US investigators wanted info on Farage and his visits to the embassy, then it'd be best for them to get the info from the UK authorities rather than waste their time with the embassy.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
The media in general seem very reluctant to talk about this whole thing and its relationship to brexit. Its not just farage, they barely cover the DUP dark money thing and where Banks got his money from either.

Even the press opposed to brexit seem unwilling to shine too much of a light on all of this, which suggests that there may be pressure coming from higher up, perhaps intel agencies still investigating it all?

There has to be a reason, this story is bread and butter to the independent or guardian under normal circumstances.
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It's possible that the Guardian are working on another blockbuster story about it I guess. They've got the journalist network to pull it off. It's a story worth investigating thoroughly rather than the odd piece here and there scraping the surface.

Redplane said:
It will be a good day if Mueller subpoenas Nunes. How that guy is still around and playing interference despite all the stunts he pulled is disgraceful.
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It would be like a Harry Potter and Malfoy duel.

Mueller: "SUBPOENA!"
Nunes: "SUBPOENA!"

*Lightning*
 
Pexbo said:
It's possible that the Guardian are working on another blockbuster story about it I guess. They've got the journalist network to pull it off. It's a story worth investigating thoroughly rather than the odd piece here and there scraping the surface.



It would be like a Harry Potter and Malfoy duel.

Mueller: "SUBPOENA!"
Nunes: "SUBPOENA!"

*Lightning*
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That series of long-read articles they did about Cambridge Analytica's involvement with Trump and Brexit that implicated Farage fairly heavily were genuinely terrifying.
 
Anyone see the last season of Homeland? I envision a mass sweep of DC locking up everyone involved.

But unfortunately, now, these Trumpers all seem immune to political scandal. It seems people don't respond to anything unless there's audio or video of it.
 
Raoul said:
As suspected....

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I really, really hope Mueller has a tonne of evidence against this crooked son of a bitch.

You really can't make this shit up though the head of an intelligence committee tasked with the job of looking into Russian interference in the US Elections, is trying to sabotage said investigation and is getting support from the same Russian Bot's the Intelligence Community has come out and said they are certain played a part in interfering with the election...

I refuse to believe this sort of thing doesn't come to Mueller's attention.
 
Pexbo said:
I really, really hope Mueller has a tonne of evidence against this crooked son of a bitch.

You really can't make this shit up though the head of an intelligence committee tasked with the job of looking into Russian interference in the US Elections, is trying to sabotage said investigation and is getting support from the same Russian Bot's the Intelligence Community has come out and said they are certain played a part in interfering with the election...

I refuse to believe this sort of thing doesn't come to Mueller's attention.
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I'm sure Mueller knows a lot more than most think he does. Nunes, some often forget, was an official on the Trump transition and has been using his position as Intel committee chairman to exclusively run interference for Trump the entire time. So if Mueller calls him in for questioning from his time on the transition, it would at a minimum put Nunes in a very uncomfortable situation.
 
Raoul said:
I'm sure Mueller knows a lot more than most think he does. Nunes, some often forget, was an official on the Trump transition and has been using his position as Intel committee chairman to exclusively run interference for Trump the entire time. So if Mueller calls him in for questioning from his time on the transition, it would at a minimum put Nunes in a very uncomfortable situation.
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Indeed, an obstruction of justice charge feels inevitable, hopefully it's merely a cherry on the top of a huge stack of other charges :D
 
Maybe already been mentioned here but saw it pointed out on Reddit that the lawyers Muller's assembled for his team are pretty much as good as you're going to get and are all very highly-regarded and skilled, which obviously stands as a good sign.
 
Cheesy said:
Maybe already been mentioned here but saw it pointed out on Reddit that the lawyers Muller's assembled for his team are pretty much as good as you're going to get and are all very highly-regarded and skilled, which obviously stands as a good sign.
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Yep. Seems like an all star team of top lawyers who each specialize in a particular form of prosecution (bribery, money laundering etc).

http://www.businessinsider.com/lawy...russia-investigation-2017-6/#aaron-zelinsky-8
 
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