Why did they even bother selling the likes of James, Morata, and Danilo then? They'd all be useful backups surely if money is no issue at all? If money was no issue I think they'd've had this Mbappe deal done before Barcelona were able to get involved (unless he's simply not going to be allowed to leave Monaco for anything which is possible). Maybe they don't need to sell any players but most reports seem to suggest they'd be willing to offload Bale. We're talking about very big money here, not just in the transfer fee but also in terms of wages, agent fees, etc. Barcelona are an economically prosperous team also afterall and they just got a considerable income from a transfer so Madrid are going to have to be able to offer Mbappe more than Barca can.
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Why did they even bother selling the likes of James, Morata, and Danilo then? They'd all be useful backups surely if money is no issue at all? If money was no issue I think they'd've had this Mbappe deal done before Barcelona were able to get involved (unless he's simply not going to be allowed to leave Monaco for anything which is possible). Maybe they don't need to sell any players but most reports seem to suggest they'd be willing to offload Bale. We're talking about very big money here, not just in the transfer fee but also in terms of wages, agent fees, etc. Barcelona are an economically prosperous team also afterall and they just got a considerable income from a transfer so Madrid are going to have to be able to offer Mbappe more than Barca can.
Anderson is meh in the same way as perisic though. Puts in a lot of tackles, high work rate. Hes fast as well. Not a big feller like perisic though and mourinho clearly likes the big uns.
What you think and what clubs are offering clearly isnt in the same ball park. 60m wont get mbappe, no way no how.
Also its worth pointing out as regards reus that if we're in for bale then clearly we're not scared off by injury prone players.
Juventus were making similar noises about pogba last summer.
How are people still not grasping this. If Mbappe moves to Madrid he wants to be guaranteed a starting spot. The only way that happens is if one of BBC leaves. That's where the rumours are coming from and not that they can't afford it without selling.
If Real sign Mbappe for a record fee (not as high as Neymar obviously but still will be highest ever for a teenager) he won't think for a second he's not in their starting XI. Doubt he has any concerns about this and if he did he'd stay at Monaco for another year. He'll move to whomever is offering him more money.
But none of BBC would be happy being 2nd choice and Real wouldn't pay the insane wages they do to them for them to be on the bench.
Bale probably would and if he isn't I think Real would be quite happy to get him off the wage bill. Frankly I don't think Benzema would kick up a stink either. Obviously Ronaldo would cause hell but then why would you ever drop Ronaldo in the first place?
The point you just made on Real not wanting wasted wages on the bench is exactly why I think Bale is possible btw, which suggests they have a strong interest in the financial aspect since having a world class player like Bale on the bench would always be preferable if money wasn't a concern.
Makes no sense
Yeah if only the classico had had players of this ilk. We've had to put up with ronaldo, messi, bale, suarez and iniesta for too long.
I'm sure we've got bigger fish to fry.
If we are planning on 352 then Perisic would be a pointless signing.
Think he can play Lwb in 3-5-2 and left wing in 4-3-3
So pointless that he's the ideal man for the formation according to our manager? Yes, sounds pointless to me.
I never said it would, and I never said that's his valuation, what I did say was that £130M for him is crazy, and that to me he's maybe around a £60M player. I know that he's gonna go for a lot more, I just don't find it justifiable, that's me criticising the figures talked about for him not me saying he will go for that. To me Mbappe has simply not shown or done enough to be in the ranges being reported but clubs clearly think otherwise and it's their money, that however, doesn't mean I have to agree
Perhaps PSG's insane salary offer swung it. Perhaps he just wasn't interested in coming here. Who knows.
Castles is just showing he was correct originally.
Bale would be ideal in that position for me.
Our business so far has been somewhat economic I think. Lindelof and Matic have gone for the same price a good player goes nowadays. Keeping in mind some of last summer's fees (Benteke 30m, Bolaise 30m, Ibe 15m). Of course not as cheap as an Italian or German team get their deals, but I think we haven't overpaid more than 5-10m per player.
Mourinho would love a game changer and we might be watching from the side how all this domino effect unfolds.
Out of Dembele, Mbappe, Neymar, Bale and Coutinho each one of them would improve us going forward. I know Coutinho will never don a United shirt, but I hope he moves so one of the others becomes available.
If Neymar -> PSG
Dembele -> Barcelona
Mbappe -> Real Madrid
Bale -> United
Or
Neymar -> PSG
Coutinho -> Barcelona
Mbappe -> Real Madrid
Dembele -> United
Or it all could be just some wishful thinking.
But I hope that's the reason we're stalling on Perisic, to see if we could get on of those names above.
Mourinho would love a game changer and we might be watching from the side how all this domino effect unfolds.
Out of Dembele, Mbappe, Neymar, Bale and Coutinho each one of them would improve us going forward. I know Coutinho will never don a United shirt, but I hope he moves so one of the others becomes available.
If Neymar -> PSG
Dembele -> Barcelona
Mbappe -> Real Madrid
Bale -> United
Or
Neymar -> PSG
Coutinho -> Barcelona
Mbappe -> Real Madrid
Dembele -> United
Or it all could be just some wishful thinking.
But I hope that's the reason we're stalling on Perisic, to see if we could get on of those names above.
Surely the M1 is the most trustworthy source?
Not really.
How insightful!
Well, i wouldn't say it requires a genius to point out the obvious fact that Rashford isn't underrated
Rashford is underrated by United fans. The wankfest over Mbabpe, who has done little more than him in the game to date, shows that. Go and read his performance thread..
I think Rashford has just as much potential and if he continues to improve season after season will be up there with the very best.
It's the exact opposite. He was poor for the vast majority of last season and yet some fans think he's potentially world class and/or on a par with Mbappe. Doesn't get much more overrated than that.
Got there in the end sorry guys
Disagree.
wtf has it got to do with them at all?
Got there in the end sorry guys
Bullied by PSG? Following a player's contract is bullying?
I think they see it as a massive danger to the balance of power of their big two and want to do anything they can to stop it. I must say I'd love it if it all collapsed but I don't think it will.
No he isn't, I rate him but the fact people but him along the likes of Dembele and Mbappe, despite Rashford's horrendous form throughout the season apart from the end makes me think he's actually overrated.
What is their end goal here though? Barca have let him go from training to complete this move, so they have resigned to the fact it is happening. Are La Liga telling barca no, you can have him back?
Got there in the end sorry guys
Not sure how this whole release clause thing works then.
Got there in the end sorry guys
If they stop the move happening and PSG are willing to pay the release clause then Barca will be in breach of contract and Neymar will leave for free instead.
As insightful as ever!
I'm not entirely sure how to respond to someone that reckons Mbappe "has done little more" than Rashford. I'll need a few days just to understand the stupidity behind it.
Fully agree. Rashford too had a very impressive first season.
Rashford has scored against Chelsea, Arsenal and City...So Mbappe's exploits in UCL aren't anything special.
If Rashford trains hard enough and develops well, he could be our KANE
What is the justification for rejecting the payment from PSG?