Zidane's built a system out of the players at his disposal. It stands to reason that alternative players, with different skillsets, won't displace the originals in that same system. But that doesn't mean that they aren't of equivalent or superior quality.
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Zidane's built a system out of the players at his disposal. It stands to reason that alternative players, with different skillsets, won't displace the originals in that same system. But that doesn't mean that they aren't of equivalent or superior quality.
He had a good end of the season but has been very disappointing the rest of the time.
As he said in Madrid there are a lot of pressure and probably he wouldn't be pointed all the time somewhere else.
Anyway 30m€ is a great price
And who would you sit to play Pogba?Modric or Kroos?
Basically. I don't consider Kante a holding player. He's more like a box-to-box CM.
A top manager could come up with a new system that utilises a box-to-box CM rather than a holding player. And it would be just as good as the current Real Madrid.
Kante offers as much as any other midfielder around, just not necessarily in exactly the same areas.
You could come up with a similar argument for others on the list. For example, Kane's too good to discount simply because he doesn't work as hard as Benzema. He makes up for it in other areas.
I don't see why you'd tinker with the side when they're as dominant as they are.
Personally, I'm not that high on Kante anyways.
Nobody's suggesting tinkering. It's a thought experiment about relative quality.
Fair enough.
Sounds about right to be honest. By a Suarez deal you don't mean £40,000,001 do you?
Exactly. The way people take these 'reports' as facts is beyond me. It makes no sense, none. Happens all the time on here.
Kante over casemiro. Kane over benzema. Valencia has all the tools to be called one of the best rb in the world. Sanchez can start over bale , wont be a bad choice.
I would play him instead of casemiro. A trio of pogba kroos modric will look too good.
I love Valencia, but he's a good level behind Carvajal, who along with being at least as good defensively, is way more effective going forward.
Maybe if you was playing fifa yeah
That would be completely unbalanced.
Would you mind illuminating me as to what this reporter (Chris Winterburn) means? How did we try screw them with FFP?
They think we tried to lowball them knowing they were in a spot with respect to FFP. They needed 30 million to satisfy FFP and that's what we offered
Quite funny all the feck off inter comments. Pretty sure they want united to feck off.
Yep.. Never understood the feck Inter, feck Perez and feck Madrid comments. Inter and Madrid arent a charity. They'll want to get the most they can for their player. We either successfully negotiate down, pay the asking price or dont get the player.. Getting mad at the selling club for not selling cheap makes no sense.
Inter are interested in Martial, have been in contact with the player's entourage and received encouragement: seems the player would be ok with the move. United however have refused to consider the possibility of letting the player go on loan, so far
United still want perisic, but inter refused an offer of €45+5M. However things might change should United decide to include Martial's loan in the deal
Basically, he's saying that while united wants perisic, inter wants martial. Inter isn't asking for martial's loan as part of the fee for perisic, they're just asking for Martial
Thanks man.
Real Madrid bought Casemiro back after selling him to Porto in a weird deal. It's clear Casemiro is pivot in Zidane's plan to balance Real midfield. Perez respects Zidane enough to let him ulitize Casemiro. With other coaches, Perez would force them to fit in a more sexy player. Tweaking a system for Kante? No fecking chance under Perez.
then why was Zidane after him? to put him on the bench? I think Pogba is a better addition to Kroos.
If that's true, then I would be quite disappointed in Martial's attitude. He should be focused on making it at United than look for an escape route. But having said that, its probably bullshit as Martial has been quick to publically crush rumours of him wanting away. But IF he were to be sold/sent on loan, we would urgently need a superstar attacker (besides Perisic) to fill the gap as we already are quite thin in the attacking department.
For Jose, it is pretty straightforward really. If Martial desperately wants to go (regardless of what he says in public), Jose will let him go. Only thing is that it will likely just be a loan move initially and it will be after securing a solid replacement.
I can't remember Jose ever stopping a player who wanted out from leaving. Lukaku, De Bruyn, SaIah, Cech, Mata, Hazard Jnr, Lampard. They all wanted to leave and he let them.
One cannot be absolutely sure but the indications point to Jose preferring Rashford and Lingard to Martial. One also gets the sense that Jose might like Pereira. It's all about attitude and dedication to him rather than raw talent. I wouldn't rule out Martial going out on loan especially if he has requested to.
So the real question for me is: does Martial want to stay or does he prefer to go even if temporarily?
Guess i'll try this since people keep reading something and understanding something else
PLAYER IS OK WITH THE POTENTIAL MOVE = player would not oppose it. It means that if united and inter agree a deal for him, he's not gonna throw a strop and refuse the move
WHAT THIS DOES NOT MEAN = player wants to move
Benzema is obviously way too under rated. That is understandable though considering his striking partner is Cristiano Ronaldo.
Apart from being a world class player himself, Benzema makes Ronaldo click in that Madrid team. It will be hard to pull him out for any Harry Kane.
I guess its you understanding something else than what's written. Players can refuse or actively discourage a move and that's what I imagine Martial should do at this stage of his career rather than looking at a clear downgrade into Inter. He has the potential for being a top player and only needs to work hard towards it. And especially I am sure United would not want to move him unless Martial himself "encourages" Inter.
His cousin tweeted which is posted in Martial thread " I confirm Inter's interest in Antho. But his head is in Manchester and he is focused to make a good preparation"(translated). I will believe this more
I really wouldn't mind if PSG gives us Verratti for Martial provided Martial actually wants out (frankly, I don't doubt this. I suspect he does). I know they don't play the same role but signing Verratti will take us to a whole new level. We will of course need to find another good forward which, admittedly, can be difficult.
Having said that, I do like Martial and think he can have a superb future of he dedicates himself to his craft.
Martial is way more talented than Perisic and he's already proven that in onr of the best leagues in the world. He had a bad season last year which is noting special for a player that young, feeling a whole new level of pressure (from himself and others) + a new coach.
We would be stupid if we allowed/pushed him to leave. I have high hopes for him this season and I think he's accepted the challenge to prove himself under Jose.
We would be stupid if we allowed/pushed him to leave. I have high hopes for him this season and I think he's accepted the challenge to prove himself under Jose.
Inter can get lost, i'd rather we kept Martial. Why are we wasting so much time pursuing Perisic ?
Why should he? If united decide to flog him off, why should he turn down inter? It's not like he'd be going to China. Inter's a big club with rich owners and big ambitions.
And that is precisely what Di Marzio said. United have no intention of letting him go
Giving up Martial for Perisic would be like giving up your son for a quick fling with some bird.
Martial has already said rumours about him wanting to leave are false weeks ago.
RBLs managing director saying that they have refused a 75m euros bid for Keita and he'll fulfill his contract.
Yep, you will get pages and pages of discussion on a false premise which will then lead to imaginary formations and scenarios including calling an agent, club, player a Cnut.
The caf snowball effect 101
If United decide to flog him off then he should turn down Inter and ask his agent to find better suitable club.