Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

Mourinho's comments about our transfers are a bit wierd. These players he wants as priority 1 seem to be unrealistic, but then why not move on to other targets. He mentioned he gave a list with 4 players per position he'd find interesting
 
Yes, Di Marzio may have good sources but it makes no sense for Martial to think of leaving United at this stage. I would rather believe he is staying.
you don't get it do you? It's not Martial asking to leave or even thinking of leaving. His agent has said "sure IF Man United agree to letting him go he'd be open to it" key words being if and Man United. Basically if Mourinho doesn't want him he won't stay where he's not wanted. Same as pretty much every player ever.

We have said we don't want to sell him, so the point is moot.
 
Why are Sousers wasting their time to pursue Keita and Müller (if true)?
No way either will leave this summer.
 
you don't get it do you? It's not Martial asking to leave or even thinking of leaving. His agent has said "sure IF Man United agree to letting him go he'd be open to it" key words being if and Man United.
Is this the same agent who was openly touting a loan move to Sevilla last season?
 
I think it's obvious that that the 2 other targets are a left winger/wing back and a defensive midfielder, but how do we know which one is likely to sign?

Judging by last season, we will play a lot of games using 4231 with Pogba and Herrera in midfield. Perreira, Fellaini and Carrick can be either added as a 3rd midfielder or rotated with the two.

Jose mentioned some time ago that he will be looking to add players with different qualities than we have at the moment. A traditional winger like Perisic is what we don't have at the moment. That is why I think this position is more important to Jose if we were to get just another player this summer.
 
Lukaku will get more goals than Zlatan and I'm sure of that. He's not as good in linking up the play ( not bad but not as Zlatan ) but at the same time he can be more clinical in front of the goal and if he just scored 8 more goals than Zlatan in the the frustrating draws we were getting all the season we'll be in good condition.
Impossible to say, and if Zlatan wasn't injured he'd have got more goals. Like we don't know if Lukaku will get injured, or he will handle the pressure of this huge club. You are just guessing here, I'm hoping he will at least be like for like in terms of the goals scored by Zlatan, which means we have gained nothing from this transfer. Anything else is a bonus.
You need to consider that we can't change all our attackers, or change our whole attack system because all the new players will have to take time to accustomise to each other. On the contrary, the players we have are the ones who need to up their performance. They have a whole year playing together and they should be starting to know how their teammates moving and developing a bond on the field. Instead of changing the whole attack, it's better for these players to get more used to each other and up their numbers, and Mikhi, Rashford, Martial and Pogba are more than capable of getting good numbers if they concentrate enough.
We are capable of signing more than 4 players you know and integrating them into the team over the course of the season. That's José's job, and he wouldn't bang them all in at once, he would filter them in with the players he already has. He would do this until he feels they are ready to carry out his instructions to a tee. What is so hard about that? We all know last season towards the back end we had to prioritise the EL because we didn't have the depth in quality to challenge for top 4 as well as the EL. I don't want to be in this situation again
Finally Lindelof is more than a necessary, first: are you happy with the injury crisis we get each season in the defense ? And second, Lindelof ability to play sell with the ball and building attack from the back is going to assist us in our attacking system overall rather than our defenders who tend to just get rid of the ball once it's in their legs.

It's about the whole system, not just this player instead of this one.
Absolutely, I agree we needed defenders as well as attackers. No I'm not happy with the injury crisis we get every season, and let us hope Lindelof is a rock for us. Let us not forget that everyone is calling for Smalling's head to be shipped out, and he was a stand out player under LvG. Is one defender enough?
 
The same thing he said in the presser before LA game. I still believe the "at least 3rd signing" is the DMF.

On the contrary the 3rd will be Perisic and I suspect Jose feels a DM is the lesser of the 4 needs given we do still have Carrick and Fellaini who can play in midfield with Herrera and Pogba
 
you don't get it do you? It's not Martial asking to leave or even thinking of leaving. His agent has said "sure IF Man United agree to letting him go he'd be open to it" key words being if and Man United. Basically if Mourinho doesn't want him he won't stay where he's not wanted. Same as pretty much every player ever.

We have said we don't want to sell him, so the point is moot.

I bow down to your superior knowledge of what's actually happening. I am only reacting to Di Marzio's latest article which says this:

Inter has not stopped thinking about Martial. The contact has been initiated with the player's entourage and it has been positive while showing that he is available for a transfer. They are missing Manchester United's approval to allow the player to go out on loan.

Not that I believe him myself. But never mind.
 
I bow down to your superior knowledge of what's actually happening. I am only reacting to Di Marzio's latest article which says this:

Inter has not stopped thinking about Martial. The contact has been initiated with the player's entourage and it has been positive while showing that he is available for a transfer. They are missing Manchester United's approval to allow the player to go out on loan.

Not that I believe him myself. But never mind.
Yeah. What's different to what I said? United don't want to let him go. So he doesn't want to go.
Is this the same agent who was openly touting a loan move to Sevilla last season?
Same Martial who said the papers BS is false last season too. This summer as well!
 
I believe we will get all 4 targets but unfortunately can see it being late August before all 4 are done and dusted, which would be quite detrimental. As others have mentioned every single club knows of the funds that we have available so it will be difficult getting people in the door without getting rinsed constantly.

Really not got a clue about who we will get in, but would be really pleased to see Dembele/Weigl from Dortmund. Hopefully we target a CM first as I think this is where we really need a reinforcement.
 
If we only get one more (Matic or Perisic) you'd have to say it's been a very poor transfer window. It should improve us, but not considerably. I don't see how that would take us from 6th to 1st and I certainly don't see how it makes us in any way competitive in the CL. Hopefully we have a surprise or two up our sleeves.
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On the contrary the 3rd will be Perisic and I suspect Jose feels a DM is the lesser of the 4 needs given we do still have Carrick and Fellaini who can play in midfield with Herrera and Pogba

I agree with this.
 
Yeah. What's different to what I said? United don't want to let him go. So he doesn't want to go.

Same Martial who said the papers BS is false last season too. This summer as well!
It wasn't the papers making shit up. His agent (if it's the same one, I'm not sure, which is why I asked) was quoted multiple times talking about it.

Martial's representative, Philippe Lamboley, claimed on Wednesday that the France international is wanted by Sevilla and says an agreement could be reached during the January transfer window.

"We are studying the Sevilla option in detail," Lamboley told Spanish radio station ABCdeSevilla.

"Sevilla are a very good club, are in a good position in La Liga, play in the Champions League and have a great coach. That's all I can tell you."

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...leave-man-utd-for-sevilla-says-forwards-agent

At the end of the day, this is his agent / representative (apparently), who he pays to look after his affairs. He has to be aware of what is being said. If it isn't true, then tell your employee to shut his trap.

Anyway, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Martial leave on loan.
 
Impossible to say, and if Zlatan wasn't injured he'd have got more goals. Like we don't know if Lukaku will get injured, or he will handle the pressure of this huge club. You are just guessing here, I'm hoping he will at least be like for like in terms of the goals scored by Zlatan, which means we have gained nothing from this transfer. Anything else is a bonus.

We are capable of signing more than 4 players you know and integrating them into the team over the course of the season. That's José's job, and he wouldn't bang them all in at once, he would filter them in with the players he already has. He would do this until he feels they are ready to carry out his instructions to a tee. What is so hard about that? We all know last season towards the back end we had to prioritise the EL because we didn't have the depth in quality to challenge for top 4 as well as the EL. I don't want to be in this situation again

Absolutely, I agree we needed defenders as well as attackers. No I'm not happy with the injury crisis we get every season, and let us hope Lindelof is a rock for us. Let us not forget that everyone is calling for Smalling's head to be shipped out, and he was a stand out player under LvG. Is one defender enough?

Zlatan got 28 goals despite missing many sitters and missing the last 2 months of the season due to injury. If Lukaku stayed fit all the season and we created the same load of chances we did during the first half of the season ( and I think lukaku's holding the ball isn't as bad to affect our whole attacking pattern ) then Lukaku should get at least 26 goals in the league alone, and if he did this I'm sure we'll pretty fine. His injury record is good too played most of the games last season and not considered an injury prone so unless a massive drama happened like Zlatan injury he should be fine most of the season.

Of course this is all guessing, I agree, but this is the future and the only thing we have currently is to guess what will happen next season.

Regarding integrating the players, yes it's the manager's job, but at the same time, the time needed for the players to be integrated in the system is going to increase if you're going to to integrate many parts, and if you're saying not integrate them all together at once, you're meaning bringing players who are fine to sit on the bench at the first of the season ? I have no problem bringing so e cheap players to fill the bench but I'm talking about the key signings that are going to enter the starting line-up to improve it. We won't bring a key signing for example and make him to be integrated later in the line up, that's what I mean.

The lack of the depth at the end of last season was mostly due to injuries that we couldn't do anything to prevent so, Zlatan getting a ACL and Mata doing a hernia operation, things aren't repeated each season.

Let's imagine we sign a DMF and a winger in this market, with the starting line up being Dmf- Pogba - Herrera - Mikhi - Lukaku - new winger, the bench will be something like :

Romero - Jones - Blind - Fellaini - Mata - Martial - Rashford

Isn't that considered a bench with very good options ? 3 very good attacking players with Fellaini as a boost. Even players like Lingard and Carrick may be out of the 18 players at some points in the same.

I think the squad depth isn't that bad if we get a winger and a DMF, the squad should at least finish top 2 or 3 with most players getting more used to each other and the manager system.

I think one defender is enough, considering Rojo return then we have Bailly, Lindelof , Rojo, Smalling, Blind with Tuanzepe as a cover and there's still Jones if he's out of his injuries. Most of them aren't injury prone, only the 2 Englishmen.
 
I've been supportive of Mourinho since the time everyone wanted Pep instead, but i think I'd dislike him on LVG levels if this Martial move happens.

Jose has always said if the player knocks on my door no matter who it is and asks to leave i will let them go

Martial wants a strikers role and not playing on the left wing if Inter are offering him a strikers role or maybe even PSG or Monaco if Mbappe leaves for RM i cant see him turning it down - not Jose's fault but having signed Lukaku and praising Rashford as second choice striker even after Ibra and Rooney left Martial can see he is never going to get that role at Man Utd

Lets be honest when given the strikers role last season he hardly set the heather on fire did he
 
Lukaku will get more goals than Zlatan and I'm sure of that. He's not as good in linking up the play ( not bad but not as Zlatan ) but at the same time he can be more clinical in front of the goal and if he just scored 8 more goals than Zlatan in the the frustrating draws we were getting all the season we'll be in good condition.

You need to consider that we can't change all our attackers, or change our whole attack system because all the new players will have to take time to accustomise to each other. On the contrary, the players we have are the ones who need to up their performance. They have a whole year playing together and they should be starting to know how their teammates moving and developing a bond on the field. Instead of changing the whole attack, it's better for these players to get more used to each other and up their numbers, and Mikhi, Rashford, Martial and Pogba are more than capable of getting good numbers if they concentrate enough.

Finally Lindelof is more than a necessary, first: are you happy with the injury crisis we get each season in the defense ? And second, Lindelof ability to play sell with the ball and building attack from the back is going to assist us in our attacking system overall rather than our defenders who tend to just get rid of the ball once it's in their legs.

It's about the whole system, not just this player instead of this one.
But how can you be sure? Zlatan bagged a load of goals for you including quite a few that Lukaku (and most other strikers) would not have taken.
The incorrect presumption is that he gets all Zlatan's plus a few extra of his own but it just doesn't work that way. If his ratio matches Ibra's he will have done well.
 
But United don't want to flog him according to Di Marzio, and in that circumstance if Martial is encouraging Inter then I would be quite disappointed in Martial (again according to Di Marzio). That's what I said, and I don't see what's wrong with it.
Martial isn't encouraging inter
 
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But United don't want to flog him according to Di Marzio, and in that circumstance if Martial is encouraging Inter then I would be quite disappointed in Martial (again according to Di Marzio). That's what I said, and I don't see what's wrong with it.

Inter asked for him, he didn't ask for Inter
 
I bow down to your superior knowledge of what's actually happening. I am only reacting to Di Marzio's latest article which says this:

Inter has not stopped thinking about Martial. The contact has been initiated with the player's entourage and it has been positive while showing that he is available for a transfer. They are missing Manchester United's approval to allow the player to go out on loan.

Not that I believe him myself. But never mind.
You don't understand english
 
But how can you be sure? Zlatan bagged a load of goals for you including quite a few that Lukaku (and most other strikers) would not have taken.
The incorrect presumption is that he gets all Zlatan's plus a few extra of his own but it just doesn't work that way. If his ratio matches Ibra's he will have done well.

He get goals no one would have taken and missed some goals another striker might have scored, can go either way tbh. Zlatan's presence was immense and can't be denied, I defended him a lot last season but at the same time I think Lukaku currently can be more clinical.

Future will only tell.
 
He get goals no one would have taken and missed some goals another striker might have scored, can go either way tbh. Zlatan's presence was immense and can't be denied, I defended him a lot last season but at the same time I think Lukaku currently can be more clinical.

Future will only tell.
Name me one striker that converts all his chances. He doesn't exist and even if he did he wouldn't be Lukaku. Had Zlatan not been injured last season he'd probably have scored around 35 goals.
 
Name me one striker that converts all his chances. He doesn't exist and even if he did he wouldn't be Lukaku. Had Zlatan not been injured last season he'd probably have scored around 35 goals.

I don't say both Zlatan and Lukaku should take all chances, but at the same times there chances who are unmissable.

I'm not downplaying Zlatan efforts because if you don't know, I was his biggest defenders last season.
 
Hopefully the Martial stuff is as real as the advanced negotiations Di Marzio also said we were in for Fabinho.


Given Jose has took to starting Lingard on the left, plus Perisic playing there, I don't think we'd need another. Jose tends to play one or two all season in one position. If anything three is overkill.
DiMarzio never said we were in advanced talks for Fabinho but that we made a bid which was already far beyond what Juve were willing to offer. He obviously got that info from a Juve source to explain why Juve dropped their own interest