Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

GJNJ said:
I think people only remember the last 4 weeks of the season and write players off after 1 average season.
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I remember an entire season long that we struggled from start to finish to score goals. I also remeber from start to finish people were saying we have enough quality with likes off Martial, Rashford, Mata, Mkhitaryan and Zlatan to overcome that problem and we just needed to be patient. Well that problem only got worse over the course of the season.

And I'am really concerned if I hear people saying the same thing now aswell. If we just add Lukaku to replace Zlatan our problems will not be solved simple as that !
 
carvajal said:
Yes,they are but once it's official I guess that they won't be able to hide the truth.
At the end nobody wanted James but the 35m€ of the other tweet looks too cheap.
Edit: AS writes 35 too :(
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Bayern are good negotiators and i guess Ancelotti had a big impact on this transfer. Eithet way, deal is structured in such a way as to be good for both clubs

Pity we couldn't get a better deal, but i have to say i kind of expected it
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Is someone on here manipulating the transfer market.:lol::lol:

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Big bet placed on Sanchez to United
You could get odds of 50/1 on Sanchez joining United earlier today but a publicity-hungry bookmaker received the bet from a Manchester address and then decided to hold meetings soon after. Yes, the transfer window sparks ‘meetings’ at bookmakers.

Sanchez to United has now been slashed to 12/1.

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I sweat it wasn't me!! :D

But in all seriousness, our Griezmann funds and jersey no.7 are still unused. Really smells like the Lukaku transfer, and Jose would love to get one over Conte AND Pep.
 
Z_Wolf said:
120k is like minimum wage in the PL. Madrid don't pay crazy money unless it's for Ronaldo.
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Thats double what they pay Isco who played more games. The fact that they pay ronaldo and Bale so much money means it is a big deal and why they can't just go out and buy 140m player without balancing the books by getting rid of there deadwood.

The premier league player wage is a whole other ball park and that happens because of TV money which means most of the clubs can afford to do that where in Germany and Spain only a handfull can.
 
United Pro said:
If Bayern have the option to pay £30m after the 2 year loan deal, they can surely then renegotiate with Madrid about the fee, as even if Madrid take the option of extending James' contract by a further year, he'll only have 1 year left on his contract at that point. Surely Madrid aren't that stupid to accepting such a poor deal on their part.
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That's because it's only an option to but because german laws/rules don't allow for obligation to buy, probably. Either way, bayern will trigger the option and sign him permanently, no matter what.
 
The red panther said:
Quality of those chances also wasn't always perfect.

And if we are going to use largely the same set of players with Lukaku instead of Zlatan don't you think we are going to be running into the same kind of problem as we had last season ? This goalscoring problem isn't going to go away by just praying that Martial and Mkhitaryan need to start playing better.

So far we have just replaced Zlatan with Lukaku and improved our backline with Lindelöf. I don't see how that solves our biggest problem from last season, even if Lukaku does alot better than Zlatan and bangs in 5 or 10 goals more (and that is a big if) it still isn't enough, we need to start scoring goals from other positions aswell and I don't see that happening with out current group of players because we lack too much creativity on that midfield an too much quality from our wingers.
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I agree the wingers need to chime in a lot more I expect Mourinho knows this too Mkhitaryan showed what he can do in Europe now he just needs to replicate that in the premier league. Rashford will only continue to improve but more than anything else Martial needs to book his ideas up I suspect thats why Perisic is being targeted in case Martial has another slump.

Lukaku scored more goals than Zlatan last season and missed only 8 chances whilst surrounded by inferior players at Everton he may have a poor first touch but if it's one thing he knows how to do very well it's burying his chances.

I'm pleased with buisness so far but we need a CM and a top draw winger that can play either LW or RW.
 
giorno said:
Or Mendes does :lol:. Anyways, i'd say let's wait for the official numbers to come out from bayern

Madrid news outlets are talking about an obligation to buy for €60M
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You know Marca is full of shit. They throw the obligation on the headline then just say option to buy thereafter. If pushed they will say the obligation is that the price is set, which means feck all. Bayern don't HAVE to buy James.
 
The red panther said:
Imo our current wingers, fullbacks and midfielders bar Pogba don't provide enough football ability to play in a 4-3-3. Atleast not when you want to start playing more dominant attacking football which imo should be our aim.
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So what do you suggest? Sign a whole new team instead of Pogba as he is the only one with any footballing ability?

Talking of footballing ability, would have been nice if Pogba showed us a bit more of that last season. Just cos he cost 90 million doesn't make him the best thing since Pele. We have plenty of good footballers here to play 4-3-3 OR 4-2-3-1. We dominated plenty of games last year, just couldn't finish them off.

Also, Jose prefers counter football as opposed to the dominant possession based drivel LVG had us play. So a bit more positively wouldn't go amiss, we got a good squad, good players and a manager who is a winner. We need tweaks here and there granted, but your making it sound like we're stoke or west brom for gods sake
 
Be amazed if we hadn't at least looked into this, particularly since the Griezmann deal never materialised.
 
giorno said:
That's because it's only an option to but because german laws/rules don't allow for obligation to buy, probably. Either way, bayern will trigger the option and sign him permanently, no matter what.
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German rules don't allow an obligation to buy? Is that rule only one way, as they have apparently loaned out Costa to Juve with an obligation to buy.
 
antohan said:
You know Marca is full of shit. They throw the obligation on the headline then just say option to buy thereafter. If pushed they will say the obligation is that the price is set, which means feck all. Bayern don't HAVE to buy James.
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Most likely they do
 
Craig Ward said:
He can play out wide and central midfield. Is young enough to improve and I think he'll do well away from Arsenal. Arsenals British players never seem to improve, such as Walcott, Welbeck, Ramsey, Jenkinson, Chambers, Wilshere...

I think a move away is best for the Ox, he's certainly better than Lingard. Worth a cheeky bid?
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He's played nearly 200 career games though domestically and 25+ international's. I know people can improve at any age, but typically you don't see it that often with somebody who's played that amount of games, he's had enough practice on the field to improve and he hasn't done so enough IMO to live up to expectation and given he's quite experienced for his age, I honestly don't see him improving that much more. And injuries are always going to get in the way and halt his momentum anyway.
 
M4YON said:
I agree the wingers need to chime in a lot more I expect Mourinho knows this too Mkhitaryan showed what he can do in Europe now he just needs to replicate that in the premier league. Rashford will only continue to improve but more than anything else Martial needs to book his ideas up I suspect thats why Perisic is being targeted in case Martial has another slump.

Lukaku scored more goals than Zlatan last season and missed only 8 chances whilst surrounded by inferior players at Everton he may have a poor first touch but if it's one thing he knows how to do very well it's burying his chances.

I'm pleased with buisness so far but we need a CM and a top draw winger that can play either LW or RW.
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Will he be able to, though, when he has no space whatsoever in the Premier League's packed defenses? His close control when being pressed isn't that great. It was hard seeing him lose every ball against City, for instance.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Is someone on here manipulating the transfer market.:lol::lol:

13:30
Big bet placed on Sanchez to United
You could get odds of 50/1 on Sanchez joining United earlier today but a publicity-hungry bookmaker received the bet from a Manchester address and then decided to hold meetings soon after. Yes, the transfer window sparks ‘meetings’ at bookmakers.

Sanchez to United has now been slashed to 12/1.
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Sweet baby jesus, if this happens.................

peridigm said:
They will if they want to keep Conte.
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I really hope they don't so we can enjoy the meltdown.
 
Donut said:
So it will be 70 million if they buy him. That's not really cheap, however with the way prices are rising it might actually be in 2 years.
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It's a great deal. One of the major question marks with James was attitude/motivation. Bayern get him on a low risk basis for a couple of seasons and then get to decide whether they are actually spending that at all. If not worth the pre-agreed fee they can walk away/renegotiate.

Fantastic deal.
 
United Pro said:
German rules don't allow an obligation to buy? Is that rule only one way, as they have apparently loaned out Costa to Juve with an obligation to buy.
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Dunno, but i heard about that when they got Coman from juve. Also in Italy it's apparently like this, too. You can't write "club X will have to buy player Y for a fee of Z" in the contracts, you can write "club X has the option to sign player Y on a permanent deal for a fee of Z", so the "obligation" to buy is a gentleman's agreement
 
stevoc said:
This deal seems to make no sense from Real's point of view.
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James is their Rooney eating up funds through his wages and surplus to requirements. More so with the rise of Isco, Asensio, Ceballos arriving and needing room for Mbappe.
 
Craig Ward said:
So what do you suggest? Sign a whole new team instead of Pogba as he is the only one with any footballing ability?

Talking of footballing ability, would have been nice if Pogba showed us a bit more of that last season. Just cos he cost 90 million doesn't make him the best thing since Pele. We have plenty of good footballers here to play 4-3-3 OR 4-2-3-1. We dominated plenty of games last year, just couldn't finish them off.

Also, Jose prefers counter football as opposed to the dominant possession based drivel LVG had us play. So a bit more positively wouldn't go amiss, we got a good squad, good players and a manager who is a winner. We need tweaks here and there granted, but your making it sound like we're stoke or west brom for gods sake
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Well that we don't play 4-3-3 because we lack far too much creativity and football ability from the midfield and our wingers and fullbacks don't provide enough attacking impulses from the wings to compensate that. Which just basically means everything needs to come from the striker and Pogba which is a total repeat of last season and which we should all know by now doesn't work at all because we don't create enough chances and we don't score enough goals. I mean we finished outside the top 4 and needed EL to secure us CL or did I just dream that ? And in terms of goals scored we were one of the worst teams in the league indeed not that much away from Stoke or West Brom (obviously with a much better defence).

If you want to play 4-3-3 with Pogba as 10 than imo we need a pair of new fullbacks, a new winger and a quality DM to make that work

Alternative is we play 4-2-3-1, get a good 10 and a winger and play Pogba a bit deeper and we largely solve our problems aswell
 


Morata is considering not to move from Real Madrid anymore, according to tomorrow Marca edition

I don't think I saw this posted, it's from last night so it should be in today's edition. It would be absolutely hilarious if Chelsea fail to get Morata as well.
 
Android1974 said:
Will he be able to, though, when he has no space whatsoever in the Premier League's packed defenses? His close control when being pressed isn't that great. It was hard seeing him lose every ball against City, for instance.
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If teams are parking the bus yes he will struggle as would most players but if we are on a counter attack defences get stretched and that's where he will become most useful for us. He will improve and I think he can be a great player for us he has quite a lot of pace for midfield player not many midfielders in the league will be able to catch him once he's gone, I have high hopes for him.
 
Schmiznurf said:


Morata is considering not to move from Real Madrid anymore, according to tomorrow Marca edition

I don't think I saw this posted, it's from last night so it should be in today's edition. It would be absolutely hilarious if Chelsea fail to get Morata as well.
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I hope so. I get about £100 if he stays at Madrid
 
M4YON said:
If teams are parking the bus yes he will struggle as would most players but if we are on a counter attack defences get stretched and that's where he will become most useful for us. He will improve and I think he can be a great player for us he has quite a lot of pace for midfield player not many midfielders in the league will be able to catch him once he's gone, I have high hopes for him.
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Don't get me wrong, me too. But he has to improve a lot. And I don't really want us to play counter attack constantly.
 
That option to buy makes no sense from Real unless there's a gentlemen's agreement and the 2 year loan is just a way to help in accounting terms.
 
Nobody will pay Madrids asking price so the Spanish press have to spin it in a positive fashion.
 
The red panther said:
I remember an entire season long that we struggled from start to finish to score goals. I also remeber from start to finish people were saying we have enough quality with likes off Martial, Rashford, Mata, Mkhitaryan and Zlatan to overcome that problem and we just needed to be patient. Well that problem only got worse over the course of the season.

And I'am really concerned if I hear people saying the same thing now aswell. If we just add Lukaku to replace Zlatan our problems will not be solved simple as that !
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I understand you view and we do need additions but there is more to it then just adding a whole new forward line because it misfired last season. Younger players will be better, last years new players will be better, Mourinho will know the player better and the team will have more chemistry.

I like James but we certainly didn't miss out of him, we just didn't want him.
 
Schmiznurf said:


Morata is considering not to move from Real Madrid anymore, according to tomorrow Marca edition

I don't think I saw this posted, it's from last night so it should be in today's edition. It would be absolutely hilarious if Chelsea fail to get Morata as well.
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That would be lovely. Followed by a deadline day panic buy of vardy.
 
1974_Fergie_Time said:
All this talk of Chelsea signing Morata or Belloti ask yourself this what does 31 january 2011 mean ?

Yes it's the last time they have paid over £35m for a player

My guess it's another reason for the hold up of the bakayoko deal Monaco want £40m and Chelsea's limit is £35m

The have to be self-suffiicient now and with a new stadium to pay for it's going to be interesting to see
if they really will pay the £70m mentioned for Morata.
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Difficult to see what direction they are going to go otherwise, unless they start Batshuayi and spend £30-35m on a 'back-up'.

If they want to replace Costa with like-for-like quality though, they're gonna have to spend £50m+, they'll have no choice.
 
antohan said:
James is their Rooney eating up funds through his wages and surplus to requirements. More so with the rise of Isco, Asensio, Ceballos arriving and needing room for Mbappe.
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Don't know about that, he's still a top player. I get hes on a big wage and they want to offload him. But surely someone would be willing to pay more than 35-45m euros for a talent like James who's still only 25-26.
 
DannyCAFC said:
He's played nearly 200 career games though domestically and 25+ international's. I know people can improve at any age, but typically you don't see it that often with somebody who's played that amount of games, he's had enough practice on the field to improve and he hasn't done so enough IMO to live up to expectation and given he's quite experienced for his age, I honestly don't see him improving that much more. And injuries are always going to get in the way and halt his momentum anyway.
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Granted, he does have some games under his belt. But you can still see he hasn't hit the level he can do. A move away may just be what he needs.

As for the injuries, look at Wilshire. Played nearly a whole season away from Arsenal (know he got injured towards the end of the season). Arsenal players are always injured. I think he needs the move
 
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