Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

Perisic thrives on attacking in transition and counter attack. Our problem last season was that we failed to score against packed defenses all season. Singing Perisic doesnt really address our problem. We need creative goalscorers.

You only described one part of our problem. The other part had to do with poor transitioning from defence to attack. We were not as deadly in counter attacks as we needed to be especially against the big teams. That's why Jose was often criticized in the big games. I always argued that the problem was not the strategy but the execution. We were great at soaking in the pressure but poor at retaining the ball and counter attacking with speed and precision. This is where a player like Perisic will be useful.
 
You only described one part of our problem. The other part had to do with poor transitioning from defence to attack. We were not as deadly in counter attacks as we needed to be especially against the big teams. That's why Jose was often criticized in the big games. I always argued that the problem was not the strategy but the execution. We were great at soaking in the pressure but poor at retaining the ball and counter attacking with speed and precision. This is where a player like Perisic will be useful.

By the way, A strategy is wrong if the players are not capable to execute it.
 


After the season they've just had, Wenger is not that stupid to provoke his own fans even more, surely??? If they're not in the top 4 after 5 games next season, I dread to think what that place would be like. I would genuinely fear for his life. Only signing Messi, Neymar, or Suarez would appease the Gooners if he were to sell Sanchez, especially to a title rival.
 
Keita Balde is the only left winger there and his temperament is suspect, asked to leave Lazio twice, he doesn't do any defensive work and is very much a rough around the edge player. If you bring in Balde you're going to have to bed him in slowly and work a hell of a lot on him to bring him to the standard of the Premier League and Jose Mourinho. Of course, when he doesn't play he picks fights with his manager and asks to leave.

In pure numbers, none of them had a better season than Perisic.

Imo if your a winger you should be able to play either side. Maybe Mahrez would struggle on the left due to him cutting inside on his left foot.

Can be always temperament problems with younger players. It's just how they grow I guess. Keita posted better goal scoring stats than Perisic last season. So did Salah. Perisic had a couple more assists than bernadeschi. Mahrez was incredible the season before that. The only time I've see Perisic play consistently well is for Croatia
 
Do I f*ck. :lol:

Arsenal can't sell their best player to another Premier League team again, I don't think they will.

If he has in his contract that he can leave if Arsenal don't finish top 4 nothing that Arsenal can do about it

How about this Jose offers Martial as a swap for Sanchez , now that would be a surprise.

we know Arsene loves Martial and he just isn't Jose's type of player and we can see that with game time he
has had this season and he would get his Number 9 brand back again from Arsenal
 
If he has in his contract that he can leave if Arsenal don't finish top 4 nothing that Arsenal can do about it

How about this Jose offers Martial as a swap for Sanchez , now that would be a surprise.

we know Arsene loves Martial and he just isn't Jose's type of player and we can see that with game time he
has had this season and he would get his Number 9 brand back again from Arsenal

Nah, we would want sanchez but not at the cost of martial going other way,
 
Thankfully individual names don't guarantee a great team.
Unfortunately guardiola is a tactical genius from a purely theoretical viewpoint. The failings this season were down to the players not being good enough. His team still controlled, occupied and spaced the pitch better than anyone else. Individual mistakes were their undoing

He'll play alexis in the Messi/false 9 role, GJ in the pedro/spacing striker role, sane and sterling will provide the width and the silvas and kdb in the middle will be in charge of making everything tick and ensuring they retain 70% of possession. Against at least 13 out of 19 PL opponents, it will work. Maybe he'll go for something a bit less extreme against the few teams who can punish that lineup's defensive weakness(for which you need to beat their high press first)
 
Unfortunately guardiola is a tactical genius from a purely theoretical viewpoint. The failings this season were down to the players not being good enough. His team still controlled, occupied and spaced the pitch better than anyone else. Individual mistakes were their undoing

He'll play alexis in the Messi/false 9 role, GJ in the pedro/spacing striker role, sane and sterling will provide the width and the silvas and kdb in the middle will be in charge of making everything tick and ensuring they retain 70% of possession. Against at least 13 out of 19 PL opponents, it will work. Maybe he'll go for something a bit less extreme against the few teams who can punish that lineup's defensive weakness(for which you need to beat their high press first)
Sorry but a man who needs a team of world class players to get results cannot be called a genius. He's a fraud.
 
Unfortunately guardiola is a tactical genius from a purely theoretical viewpoint. The failings this season were down to the players not being good enough. His team still controlled, occupied and spaced the pitch better than anyone else. Individual mistakes were their undoing

He'll play alexis in the Messi/false 9 role, GJ in the pedro/spacing striker role, sane and sterling will provide the width and the silvas and kdb in the middle will be in charge of making everything tick and ensuring they retain 70% of possession. Against at least 13 out of 19 PL opponents, it will work. Maybe he'll go for something a bit less extreme against the few teams who can punish that lineup's defensive weakness(for which you need to beat their high press first)

He had a team that had won the treble at Bayern, with one of, if not the best squad in world football, yet failed miserably in Europe, despite being a genius. He's not a genius by any means, a very good manager, just as many others are.
 
Sorry but a man who needs a team of world class players to get results cannot be called a genius. He's a fraud.
Tactically, he kind of is. Like Bielsa says "if football was played by robots, i would never lose". The same can be said of Guardiola(but also several others, mind)
 
He had a team that had won the treble at Bayern, with one of, if not the best squad in world football, yet failed miserably in Europe, despite being a genius. He's not a genius by any means, a very good manager, just as many others are.
One time due to injuries, one time bad luck, one time he just went up against a team built to beat him, and just as good if not better(and certainly hungrier)
 
One time due to injuries, one time bad luck, one time he just went up against a team built to beat him, and just as good if not better(and certainly hungrier)

That's a lot of excuses for a supposed genius. His squad last season with City was better than Chelsea's, yet was miles off the title. What was the reason this time?
 
After the season they've just had, Wenger is not that stupid to provoke his own fans even more, surely??? If they're not in the top 4 after 5 games next season, I dread to think what that place would be like. I would genuinely fear for his life. Only signing Messi, Neymar, or Suarez would appease the Gooners if he were to sell Sanchez, especially to a title rival.

:lol:
 
That's a lot of excuses for a supposed genius. His squad last season with City was better than Chelsea's, yet was miles off the title. What was the reason this time?
I told you, i'm speaking purely from a tactical point of view. City were the best team in the league anywhere you look at it in terms of play. It was a failure of individuals, not tactical(the counterpoint is that he should have recognized his players weren't good enough to make it work and he failed to adapt. He did make some adjustments in the second half of the season in fairness)

This is why i'm saying this all theoretical. Anyways, not the thread for this discussion, we've already gone overboard
 


Chelsea have reinvigorated negotiations for Monaco's Tiemoué Bakayoko & could close a €40m deal next week, according to tomorrow's L'Équipe.
 
You only described one part of our problem. The other part had to do with poor transitioning from defence to attack. We were not as deadly in counter attacks as we needed to be especially against the big teams. That's why Jose was often criticized in the big games. I always argued that the problem was not the strategy but the execution. We were great at soaking in the pressure but poor at retaining the ball and counter attacking with speed and precision. This is where a player like Perisic will be useful.

I disagree, ive described THE problem.

Its a problem thats inherent to Mourinhos style of football and his philosophy. Take a look at his possession based Cheslea and Madrid side and they all had the same problem when they came up against solid defensive sides.

We had 10 draws at home where we roughly averaged 60-65% possession and scored no goals or only 1 per game. If we had made use of all that possession and won those games, we would be 20 points better off, 2nd in the table only 4 points behind Chelsea.

Mourinho is practical. He identifies teams that are better at keeping possession than his team and he lets them have the ball. In the entire league season Mourinho only really played an all out counter attacking style against city, arsenal, spurs, liverpool away, chelsea away against the rest he tried to keep possession. Theres no doubt that our main issue is opening teams up when we have the ball. But i do agree, having a great counter attack is an advatage against the top sides. Regarding that i disagree with you again, I highly doubt Perisic is the best player for making our counter attack potent.
 
Unfortunately guardiola is a tactical genius from a purely theoretical viewpoint. The failings this season were down to the players not being good enough. His team still controlled, occupied and spaced the pitch better than anyone else. Individual mistakes were their undoing.

He'll play alexis in the Messi/false 9 role, GJ in the pedro/spacing striker role, sane and sterling will provide the width and the silvas and kdb in the middle will be in charge of making everything tick and ensuring they retain 70% of possession. Against at least 13 out of 19 PL opponents, it will work. Maybe he'll go for something a bit less extreme against the few teams who can punish that lineup's defensive weakness(for which you need to beat their high press first)

He just got bernardo silva as well,who was supposed to be doing that. And that's why he acted in an electric way to secure his signing before any other rivals do.

By the way epl teams will adjust and bring out their long ball physical target football soon including big teams. Pep cant control how other teams will play in the epl via bypassing their high press via long balls and getting in behind those high line defenses in direct counter attacking way as quick as they can while always facing 9 men in the box till they arrive with the ball in the box. And he is too stubborn to change that.One thing he wont ever admit is other counter attacking teams will always be more consistant in picking up 3 points than his team while on a given day those counter attacking teams can play the Posession game in a decent way too. He is going to try to create create and create with the ball facing 9 men in the box but epl defenses dont get rolled over atleast for decent amount of game time when fresh and defend with impunity while just one direct longball can beat all the high press he is going to apply to recover back the posession and loose a goal which he did not face much in bundesliga or laliga.

I expect him to dominate initially just like last time but as soon as the teams figure it out it becomes very predictable to defend. The more sideways he passes the more time he gives the opposition to reorganize the defensive organization and have meaning less posession without penetration.
 
I disagree, ive described THE problem.

Its a problem thats inherent to Mourinhos style of football and his philosophy. Take a look at his possession based Cheslea and Madrid side and they all had the same problem when they came up against solid defensive sides.

We had 10 draws at home where we roughly averaged 60-65% possession and scored no goals or only 1 per game. If we had made use of all that possession and won those games, we would be 20 points better off, 2nd in the table only 4 points behind Chelsea.

Mourinho is practical. He identifies teams that are better at keeping possession than his team and he lets them have the ball. In the entire league season Mourinho only really played an all out counter attacking style against city, arsenal, spurs, liverpool away, chelsea away against the rest he tried to keep possession. Theres no doubt that our main issue is opening teams up when we have the ball. But i do agree, having a great counter attack is an advatage against the top sides. Regarding that i disagree with you again, I highly doubt Perisic is the best player for making our counter attack potent.

That is why i have always beenof the idea that we need 2 wingers, one is direct counter attacking and one a creative winger,who under pressure do not loose the ball but instead creates or circulates the posession to improvise and open up defenses. Unfortunately guardiola buys every creative player out there in the market, but stilli maintainwe need a winger like mahrez or sanchez too to create with the ball and not go direct andloose the ball like Mkh did in high press which gives the posession to opposition. Mataistoo slow as a winger therefore we never reach the oppositiongoal in a high press and nor have awinger to make attacking runs off the ball to stretchthe defense and release the pressure via long ball or through ball and have the ability to keep and create .
 
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I disagree, ive described THE problem.

Its a problem thats inherent to Mourinhos style of football and his philosophy. Take a look at his possession based Cheslea and Madrid side and they all had the same problem when they came up against solid defensive sides.

We had 10 draws at home where we roughly averaged 60-65% possession and scored no goals or only 1 per game. If we had made use of all that possession and won those games, we would be 20 points better off, 2nd in the table only 4 points behind Chelsea.

Mourinho is practical. He identifies teams that are better at keeping possession than his team and he lets them have the ball. In the entire league season Mourinho only really played an all out counter attacking style against city, arsenal, spurs, liverpool away, chelsea away against the rest he tried to keep possession. Theres no doubt that our main issue is opening teams up when we have the ball. But i do agree, having a great counter attack is an advatage against the top sides. Regarding that i disagree with you again, I highly doubt Perisic is the best player for making our counter attack potent.

That was never THE problem.

THE problem was poor finishing. Our table standing would have been much different if we simply took as small as 40% of our chances. It's easy to forget how many times we opened up defences and then blew the chances away. Zlatan, Pogba, Raahford, Lingard, Mikhi etc all lost clear sitters.

I agree that what he outlined was also a problem but it was just a part of a few crucial problems.

I do like your analysis though.