These numbers can't be real.
Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic
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I feel like we need to sign players nowadays because of how well known they are because of shirt sales, commercialization etc. I wish Jose would just pull a Milito sort of signing of someone noone really knows and gets you goals for not some stupid fee or like Fergie did with Chicharito. Some of these clubs are taking the piss...nearly 100mill for players like Belotti or Morata lol no thanks id rather just keep giving Rashford and Martial a go, know the league know the system and can only get better with age.
*points to thread title* take Morata moaning to the Morata thread.
Any striker linked to us is going to be valued at inflated prices due to our impending need of a top quality forward.
Yes that's probably true, but I'm not entirely sure Torino will stick to their release clause. I reckon they'll sell for quite a bit less at maybe £70m, as no one is realistically going to pay even close to his release clause. Also, I think it'd be much better for us to overpay for a Torino player than a Madrid one, as Madrid will just use our funds to get another of our targets in Mbappe. But, I still think this is just a negotiation stance from Madrid for us to either lower our De Gea demands or to include De Gea into this deal.
We should also probably stop talking about this on the transfer tweets page.
Screw Morata and Belotti then and go for Aubameyang or Lacazette.
Okay who the feck would pay that much money for Morata. Holy shit.
And I remember thinking at the time you guys were paying on the steep end for a player in the last year of his contract. What would he cost now? 60mill? Probably more than that if it wasn't his last year. What a difference 5 years makes, market is crazy.
Morata is literally worth nowhere near that price. Neither is Belotti.... surely we should be consider Aubameyang
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Couldnt have picked a more perfect team.. Scored on his full debut against them. Had his worst performance for us against them..
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It'll be nice to see the Baby back.
Have you watched Nainggolan? He has a high energy/workrate style like Vidal, and is a really good tackler. He wouldn't be a DM but he'd be a great box to box midfielder for us, next to Herrera (who plays as a holding CM now), and Pogba.
I would not want United to pay that for Morata but we need to get used to the fees. Look at the billions being made by the clubs/leagues especially in England.
Fees and salaries are going to get exponentially larger whether we think it's crazy or not. As someone else pointed out , Jose said the Pogba fee would soon look like a bargain. Teams like United can afford to 'take a chance' spending 50mln on Morata.
Fees and salaries are going to get exponentially larger whether we think it's crazy or not. As someone else pointed out , Jose said the Pogba fee would soon look like a bargain. Teams like United can afford to 'take a chance' spending 50mln on Morata.
They want more than 50m though (apparently)
Theres a point at which giving rashford or martial a chance just becomes a more sensible approach to the problem
and spending 100m on belotti, lukaku or morata is it imo.
Try dig up a bargain instead, they exist.
Deadly? Hardly. As I've been saying, he's talented, but not that talented--and completely overpriced to boot.
Aubameyang and Lacazette are not only better players, but better bargains as well.
Better finishers maybe but not all round forward players.
I'd much rather spend that amount on Alexis and we'd still save 15-20m at the very least
A possible world record fee for a player that isnt near the worlds best 10 strikers is super business? The fee they have reportedly turned down is too high. If there is any truth in Perisic, Morata bids turned down and Lukaku snub, its a good thing in my opinion and hope we move on to other targets
Agreed 100m for players that are good but none of great (reserve judgemjent on Belotti as not seen him) is a no no for me. I mean how much is Patrick Shick going to Juve for, probably not even 1/3 of that price.
But the problem is: which other targets? And those other targets will also cost us a lot of money too, since this is how the market is today. Unless a player is in his final year of contract where he can force the issue to the selling club, it is hard seeing how a selling club will sell at the price we want. Even an "unknown" defender like a Bailly who came in completely under the radar cost us 30m pounds.
Exactly, I don't understand why people are so fussed about the price. I completely agree the price being thrown around €100m for Belotti or €90m (iirc) for Morata is absurd. However the current market is being ridiculously inflated and isn't showing signs of slowing down unfortunately. Many factors are to 'blame' for this - you have worldwide general growth in costs, and spending which is reflected in an increase wages hence more revenue as well for clubs. Coupled with the fact that rich clubs like Real Madrid who shell out £40m for a unknown 17yo kid from Santos, just signals to other clubs - hey if they can pay £40m for a 17yo from Brazil surely our player who is older and more experienced is worth more.
This is correct.
Would it not make sense to spend on a great supporting cast for Martial/Rashford at this point if we can't find a striker for a reasonable fee. Nainngolan, Fabinho and spunk the rest on Ousmane Dembele.
Feck Madrid for asking so much for Morata,instead get Auba,he is a world class player who has blistering pace and people here who say pace is of no use against teams who sit deep should consider the fact that these teams don't sit back for the entire 90 minutes.During t last season we saw that we were toothless on the counter against numerous teams keeping aside the fact whether these teams sat deep or not.How many times did we see us breaking out on the counter with just one player and no one else to support.Rashford running with the ball alone on the counter and then losing it in the end due to having no support from others.Getting Auba would mean that we would have multiple players for the counter and it's not like he is just a pace merchant,he is a reliable goal scorer,better than Morata for sure.Instead of funding fecking madrid through Morata for buying Mbappe we should just give the money to Dortmund and get Auba.Almost forgot to mention the non existent off the ball movements last season,He will definitely make those runs and attract defenders with him hence more space for our players to score.
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I quite like your idea about Fabinho and Nainngolan,but instead of Dembele(Who would be difficult to take to away from Dortmund) we should get Auba,Add lindelof to the list and this transfer window would be a successful one.
I umderstand why you are focused on his stats but however way one spins it, what are the odds that Real Madrid's second center forward, Juve's former center forward, Spain's center forward and a player Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte seem desperate sign, is merely an average player? We are talking about two elite teams, two elite managers and a top 10 country in football.
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Bailly was pretty unknown to us. I do remember him in the Europa league but was being scouted by a few big clubs. I disagree with all the other players costing a lot of money. Yes fees are mad and it is hard to find players...but:
Dembele 12.75m
Emre More 8.29m
Gotze 18m
Weigl 2m
Tielmans 22m
Mendy 11m
These are just a few transfers the last couple of years which in total would be less than buying Lukaku according to fees being mentioned. There are lots of potentially great young players about, but because we dont know them well, they have had a poor spell or they are not proven they are laughed off. I would like to see us gamble £20-40m even on massive young talents that are on the cusp than the ridiculous fees being mentioned for good not great players worthy of the fees mentioned, even in todays market
We're just asking for trouble if we go in to next season with Martial and Rashford as first choice. I don't think Jose even rates Martial so it's not going to happen anyway.
I dont understand why certain posters are saying they would rather see us spend £78m on players like Kane, Aubau, Alexis. If we are being quoted that much for a player that is basically allowed to leave from a club that want to do business with us because they want DDG, how much do you think we will have to pay to get the better players at clubs that dont want do business with us ? It will certainly be more than what Madrid will want for Morata. Remember Juve having to fork out absolute crazy money because they wanted Higuain. Well imagine alot more than that plus United tax on it and ut is not even sure any of those players actually want to come to United.
I would like Morata very much, he would suit the league and our play and is alot better than people give him credit for on here. He is not worth 78m but I doubt we will end up having to pay that much. If we can get him for around 60m woth DDG going the other way for 70m, both sides will be happy.
I would like Morata very much, he would suit the league and our play and is alot better than people give him credit for on here. He is not worth 78m but I doubt we will end up having to pay that much. If we can get him for around 60m woth DDG going the other way for 70m, both sides will be happy.
I totally agree with you.
We cannot afford to take such a gamble. We need to bring in re-enforcements. In fact, bringing in fresh legs may be the best way to get Rashford and Martial to step up to the next level. Competition can do wonders to a team.
Serious question, I don't like him, I know you lot don't like him, but why aren't we in for Vardy? Surely he'd be nowhere near these stupid prices and he'd be absolutely perfect for us. His blistering pace on our counter attacks, I can't understand why we have to look for someone with a big shiny name in chrome?
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Arsenal won't let Alexis leave for a EPL team.
60m+ for a player in last year of his contract! Additionally they need funds if their interest in Mbappe is genuine
FFS take your discussions out of this thread.