Ye but if you’re going to Saudi you ain’t getting a pay cut anyway. Only a pay rise
I’d be happy if we just released them all and saved millions in wages.Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25
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I’d be happy if we just released them all and saved millions in wages.Saudi don't want him.Ye but if you’re going to Saudi you ain’t getting a pay cut anyway. Only a pay rise
So would everyone but that's not possible.
I think from the last reports United wanted a nominal fee for the books. That may well have been just enough to shake off the only possible buyer.
They keep mentioning Napoli are interested in the summer to force us into spending the €40m now. You just no that come the summer Napoli aren’t offering that and will pick him up for less or around the same money as the bid we just got rejected. The Utd and PL tax is very real.
True but its also a struggling club that doesn't want to lose one of their best players with very little time to replace him
I'm not sure it's really worth bringing such a young player in now when he's going to be cheaper in the Summer.
Is a 20 yr old in his second season of serie A going to make a huge difference to our season?
It's also taking their best player midseason when they're one point from safety tax. He's bound to cost more now than the summer. Hell if they get relegated, they might take €20m.
He won't be cheaper, they have maintained that €40m value to other clubs in the past too.
Perhaps, but they're surely be more room to negotiate when they're not in a relegation battle mid-season.
Its also called desperation. Just like Ajax took us for fools over Antony, we risk a similar problem here. Teams smell our desperation, hence the premium tax. We need to walk away.
The issue is we desperately need a wingback now to play the Ruben system and the only 2 cheap options (who are already established starters for their teams) are him and Alvaro.
He plays in a stronger league and has the athleticism Ruben has mentioned and unlike Alvaro, he can play all over the pitch as his heatmap shows.
Ye but if you’re going to Saudi you ain’t getting a pay cut anyway. Only a pay rise
That’s not the way contracts work.
Of course it isn’t
The issue is we desperately need a wingback now to play the Ruben system and the only 2 cheap options (who are already established starters for their teams) are him and Alvaro.
He plays in a stronger league and has the athleticism Ruben has mentioned and unlike Alvaro, he can play all over the pitch as his heatmap shows.
What are we desperate for? Finishing 10th instead of 14th?
The issue is we desperately need a wingback now to play the Ruben system and the only 2 cheap options (who are already established starters for their teams) are him and Alvaro.
He plays in a stronger league and has the athleticism Ruben has mentioned and unlike Alvaro, he can play all over the pitch as his heatmap shows.
To be honest, ideally we would get one in now and the other in summer. Dorgu plays both sides and is young so the versatility helps.
We should not be signing and relying on an unproven 20 year old or we may end up with Hojlund part 2.
Ideally I would want us to go for a Kerkez/Ait-Nouri in the summer as Mendes will stay at PSG
Those 4 places equal more money coming in
Hopefully get Dorgu in so we can bed him in for next year!
Napoli may think he's too expensive but they sold Kvaratskhelia too cheaply.
When i compare what Napoli are being asked to pay for Garnacho, yes he's too expensive, spending the majority of that fee on someone who's not very consistent.
When I compare the cost of replacing Garnacho and the fact that he is improving in Amorim system, and how much better he would look in a functional team, we are not asking enough.
He does remind me to some degree of Ronaldos first year at united. Back then he was all step overs and no product.
Fair point.
I've no idea how much each place in the league is worth.
How does it compare to Lecce's asking price or the difference between the bid and Lecce's asking price?
Seems like each place is worth around £3.1m.
Oh is it that much? Fair enough if he can improve the team it's worth the extra in that case. Apparently, there's only €5m in the difference now as Lecce have brought their asking price for a guaranteed fee down to €35m.
Doing well enough so Jim doesn't get frustrated and sack Ruben mainly. Getting clear from being near relegation would be a big help financially and going far in the Europa too.
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Adeyemi deal gone a bit quiet too at the moment
There was talk he didn't want to leave, Napoli went back in for him, lots of chatter, then as you say goes quite and stories coming out that Napoli are still in for Garnacho. Maybe he reiterated he wants to stay till summer.
I don't think relegation is a realistic outcome but you're right and other posters have pointed out how much each place is worth, which I hadn't considered.
Not even in the same ball park even day one Ronaldo had the beating of a man and was 10 yards more rapid than Garnacho is, Garna has played 119 times for Utd by the time Ronaldo had that many games he was well on the way to being one of the greatest of all time, Garna is a couple of rungs down, he will be a top class player, but not even close to being world class
Agree, that version of Ronny had the United first team pushing Fergie to sign him up asap. United didn't leave Portugal without completing that deal. No way on earth would they have said that about this version Garnacho. Young Ronaldo terrified defenders whether he scored, or not.
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How can you say he won't be close to being world class? I don't get how people can make such definitive statements on any player. He is among the best in the world at his age group, so he has as good a chance as any in his age bracket and that is all that we can know right now. He may fulfill his potential or he may not, but the fact is he has shown enough that we should be nurturing him. We have Hojlund at 22 who is a fraction of the player and cost us 72m, no way we should sell Garnacho, who has achieved a hell of a lot more than Hojlund had when we signed him, for less than we paid for Hojlund.
Consensus seems to be that is he athletic and fast enough for what Ruben wants in RWB
Alvaro on the right, Dorgu on the left?
Pretty big chance Dalot is better than both on the right
Wouldn't bet on it.
Because he is very one footed, does not have fantastic ball control, no trickery, he is not that fast, his decision making, finishing and passing are not the greatest, he is also very predictable, I am already sick of him cutting in and shooting (high, wide and handsom) had enough of that from Antony the other side.
Ok sure some of these can be tweaked but if you think Garnacho is going to be world class, I am sorry not a cat in hells chance, Lee Sharpe was a better player, Ronaldo is light years ahead, Garnacho looks good by comparison to the rest of our options, he is direct and exciting and yeah some things he does may improve, but he is not going to suddenly become faster or two footed, compare Garnacho to other wingers across the world and he is good, even very good but he is not going to hit the highest heights here, Napoli or Chelsea
We bought him for £500k if we manage to sell him for £60m we should be laughing, his stock is high right now but when Amorim actually gets some players then Garna will see less and less playing time, BTW I think he is much better on the right, but then Amad is there and already offering 10x as much end product.
Ornstien didn't say much there tbh.