Although we have proper structure in places with the arrival of INEOS, yet for some reason why does it feel we are worse off than we were under Glazer?
Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to celebrate rare back-to-back victories for Manchester United! They analyse the late win in the Europa League vs. Rangers and then try and find things to analyse in a pretty dour game vs. Fulham. They also chat about the latest Marcus Rashford news, and look at the latest transfer news.
Because we’re crippled by what we can do under PSR.
Depends how the £50m is structured, only the initial fee would be in the current accounting period for PSR, that could be anywhere from 0-50 depending on how the deal is cut
Good for him, he's needed something like this for 18 months
That's not how PSR works
It's been very quiet in here. I can't see us getting Dorgu if we can't sell Garnacho or Rashford. My guess would be that we'll end up selling Garnacho to Chelsea right at the deadline and bring nobody in, thus allowing Jim to use the cash for his 'emergency savings'.
PSR works on expenditure, so anything not expended in the accounting period is not relevant, or have I missed something else
It’s now quite obvious that Garna is leaving. He has to go to Napoli - anything to avoid those talent hoarding shitehawks in Chelsea.
And if we sign Nkunku we will be a laughing stock for being a graveyard for Chelsea’s castoffs.
And if we sign Nkunku we will be a laughing stock for being a graveyard for Chelsea’s castoffs.
Why do you think the Glazers decided to sell up when they did?
10 years of gross mismanagement builds up over the years. Like a hoarder shoving shit into his house over the years, it will take time for a new houseowner to clean out all the shit.
Long term effects of mismanagement but also our new 'proper' structure looks a lot like our old structure on the face of it. We have a commercial man as chief exec and a seemingly overpromoted director of football
Because the club have started taking some responsibility rather than continuing to throw money at problems.
Dharmesh reporting our interest means it won't happen, thank God.
Yeah he’s like the anti-Ornstein.
Well INEOS already binned off the person who was supposed to be the most important part of the proper structure after a few months for a significant cost
Because there has been so much damage done under those leeches, also the fact they won't properly invest unless they get majority ownership. Oh and the small matter of that bozo decision to keep Ten Hag last summer
How is he over promoted?
He was the director of football of Southampton last season, who was highly credited with them getting Russell Martin and taking them back to the PL, by creating a “Game Model” throughout the club with transfers and style of play.
He was clearly highly rated from his time running city’s academy, calling him over promoted seeing as he has previously performed that role is clearly a lack of research on your part.
Hasn’t even had a summer yet.
God I hope that’s just his autism coming out there…
I might have been a bit harsh but you would be hard pushed to argue he was 'best in class'. He may have done a good job at Southampton but its a big step up to the United job. Southampton did well in the playoffs but weren't even one of the best teams in the championship throughout the season
How do you know he’s not best in class?
Judging someone before they’ve had chance in the role is a bit disingenuous.
No but he also turned around a sinking ship, might only be small club compared to us, but Berrada clearly rates him, so give the guy a chance, he might not be good enough but until he’s had 12 months of running the show, how can you judge as it was clearly Ashworth running things in the summer.
Sorry, but that's incorrect. For PSR purposes, the transfer fee is ALWAYS amortized over the life of the contract when you buy a player. It makes no difference when you pay the cash. You can pay it all upfront, but for accounting/PSR purposes it will still be spread over the contract (typically five years).
Is it possible for people who didn't not understand PSR rules to not make definitive comments like this? So much misinformation on this forum.
It wasn’t PSR that invested heavily in an ‘at risk’ manager last summer only to sack him a few months later, at great cost, and hire a manager not suited to our current squad. That was all Ineos.
What in the hell are you actually trying to say with that?
I presume it's a tongue in cheek reference to people doing wild shit like Nazi salutes and others attempting to explain it away by invoking their autism diagnosis.
You are 100% correct and your right there is a lot of misinformation mostly spread by the brain dead ‘YOU TUBE’ morons who really have no idea what they are talking about, however people like you and I should just try and help with correct facts, like you did in your post, very unassuming well done.
The main reason for selling Garnaucho is his sale represents 100% net profit as there is no cost on our books in amortised transfer fees however his wages might only be £2.5/3m per year on our books.
The truth is selling Garnaucho for £60m would help considerably with PSR because he’s an academy player. Buying Tyler Dybling makes total sense even for £55m because that fee would be amortized over the 5 year contract even if we pay the fee upfront. So in pure net transfer terms, assuming wages are similar then you only use £11m against £60m which represents a £49m transfer profit.
It’s very simple to understand;
If Player A is bought for £50m on a 5 year contract. (Whether the payment is upfront or in instalments, it really doesn’t matter)
Each year, the players value is amortized on the club’s annual accounts as £10m asset as he’s expected to complete his 5 year contract. That player wage may be agreed at £5m per year so the club would have a commitment of £25m to the player and only if the player leaves in a transfer would that wage commitment be broken.
This is why that when a new DOF look at transfer budgets, they need to also look at the budget of wages to club revenue.
If we qualify for Europe next year the Squad Ratio Rule kicks in and the threshold for 25/26 season is 70% in net transfers, total player wages and Agent fees.
Starts talking United around 15:30
I understand. Still, for the future, people on the spectrum should probably not be the subject of nonsense and ridicule.
Basically what withnail said. I’m not ridiculing people with autism. But also people should always be open to nonsense and ridicule if they’re doing or saying stupid or offensive shit.
Just like I would be open to it from you if you think I’m being stupid or offensive now!
Mendes would have been the correct move. Should try him when Rashford leaves. Surely then he won't be "too expensive"
Musk does that all the time. People do that all the time.
Go ahead dude, I’d love that
No you roast me! I want you to do itMusk does that all the time. People do that all the time.
Go ahead dude, I’d love that
Well - the good news is - Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich are so poor - that we don't need to sign a single player in this window - and we will still stay up. So maybe that is what we should do - clear 3-4 players - throw in some youngsters instead and go big in the summer instead.
Nah, we might fall in love if we go down that road, neighbours and all that.
Because they’re pulling a reset rather than trying to limp onwards in the wrong direction.
Because he has only done a similar job at a championship club. Not that complicated is it?