Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

[Katy Cat]

So what do we think? Is this club going to hang Amorim out to dry for the rest if the season? Doesn't look like we are going to do anything this window.

I don't think he's being hung out to dry. The brutal reality is that we have no room for manoeuvre without some significant outgoings. Even more, if you exclude players we'd want to keep, our sales stock is the equivalent of a junk shop - variously: too old and past their best, or just never that good, most of them horribly overpaid and with very little incentive to leave - and it's a depressed marketplace.

It's not great to admit that but it's been coming. For a long time. Our horrendous transfer dealings were a series of slow motion car crashes, where a slew of unqualified, inexperienced drivers - hello, Arnold, Ed, Murtough and the asleep at the wheel ETH - have led to the equivalent of a motorway pile-up, leaving us staring aghast at the scale of the wreckage. Twisting that analogy a bit further, we're now waiting for the tow-trucks, salvage dealers and surface repairers to turn-up in the hope we can re-cycle at least some of what's in there and clear a route through to start-out again. This time - you hope - with decent sat-nav to guide us.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Ah yes. Another Ten Hag special.

It's not though is it? If you took literally 5 seconds to think about it, just 5, youd realize theres nothing wrong with identifying targets that suits his system. It's down to the recruitment team, doctors and directors to actually sign off on him. Our doctors should be saying no, don't sign this sick note you'll never get more than a few games out of him a season. We've seen it enough times over the past 13 years or so, that doesn't land on ten hag.

 

[Godfather]

I dunno. At this point I don’t see us getting relegated and I don’t see us earning a Europa League Place. So, I don’t think management sees the urgency in bringing in new players for which we might have to overpay unless it’s with a view to next season.

But surely it would be beneficial to get the manager players as soon as possible? PSR permitting of course

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Tweets would be nice.

 

[hellhunter]

But surely it would be beneficial to get the manager players as soon as possible? PSR permitting of course

If it means overpaying and therefore getting lesser or fewer players in? What's the benefit?

 

[Godfather]

If it means overpaying and there getting lesser or fewer players in? What's the benefit?

I see no reason to believe that buying now would mean we would overpay more than in the summer.

 

[Daily_Blind]

It's not though is it? If you took literally 5 seconds to think about it, just 5, youd realize theres nothing wrong with identifying targets that suits his system. It's down to the recruitment team, doctors and directors to actually sign off on him. Our doctors should be saying no, don't sign this sick note you'll never get more than a few games out of him a season. We've seen it enough times over the past 13 years or so, that doesn't land on ten hag.

There’s no doubt in my mind Ten Hag was the main advocate for bringing Mount in based on his history with him and reports at the time. Team doctors work as advisors. They don’t have final say in transfers. They provide their input and then the management team makes the final decision.

 

[SalfordRed18]

There’s no doubt in my mind Ten Hag was the main advocate for bringing Mount in based on his history with him and reports at the time. Team doctors work as advisors. They don’t have final say in transfers. They provide their input and then the management team makes the final decision.

So you're saying you trust the advice of our team doctors, despite all evidence suggesting they're terrible and spotting these things?

 

[sparx99]

There’s no doubt in my mind Ten Hag was the main advocate for bringing Mount in based on his history with him and reports at the time. Team doctors work as advisors. They don’t have final say in transfers. They provide their input and then the management team makes the final decision.

What history with him? Mount had never played for Ten Hag before. He saw him play on loan in Holland.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

 

[Red_toad]

Any chance they’re going to bid rather than just look?

 

[Zoo]

The Antony-Betis deal continues to move forward. Today there have been new contacts between the clubs and an agreement is being drawn up for the loan until the end of the season. There is competition from other clubs but Betis feel well positioned to reach a definitive agreement

 

[Plant0x84]

Much discussion, not so many tweets for a tweets thread.

 

[mazhar13]

First call (Tier 2): Voetbal International

Tyrell Malacia is leaving Manchester United. Sources close to the player have confirmed this.

The left back is close to an agreement with a new club and will be loaned to a [team in a] top European competition. Ruben Amorim has given [his] approval for the loan.

In English:

 

[FrankDrebin]

Can see him in Turkey.

 

[Red the Bear]

So surely that would mean there'll be incomings?

We're already spread thin in that position.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

So surely that would mean there'll be incomings?

We're already spread thin in that position.

Dorgu? Alvaro back?

 

[FrankDrebin]

Amass promotion?

 

[pascell]

Sell Garnacho, loan out Antony, Rashford and Malacia then sign Ait Nouri, Nypan and a winger.

 

[WouterWeghorst]

Good for Ty and hopefully for United. Should mean United are getting close to signing someone, right?

In case of an incoming left back, bravo for keeping it silent. I'm fearing they let him go without a replacement.

 

[hellhunter]

Good for Ty and hopefully for United. Should mean United are getting close to signing someone, right?

In case of an incoming left back, bravo for keeping it silent. I'm fearing they let him go without a replacement.

Shaw will be like a new signing, right?!

 

[mazhar13]

Source (Tier 1):

Betis are pushing for Antony, Reinildo is increasingly distant from Atletico and the possible destination of Pau Lopez.

• The Brazilian is one of the big targets of the green and white team.

The deal is difficult for Betis both financially and due to the competition for the player, but they're pushing to get this done.

 

[Silverman]

I have no problem with no signings if the ones Amorim wants aren't available.

 

[rooney2009]

What’s the point of loaning out players this winter if they are not going to get replaced
We have a very small squad already and still have over 30 games to play this season.
This club is being run by a bunch of amateurs.
How can we have a team with no recognised left back and Luke shaw doesn’t count.

 

[red_de_pologne]

What’s the point of loaning out players this winter if they are not going to get replaced
We have a very small squad already and still have over 30 games to play this season.
This club is being run by a bunch of amateurs.
How can we have a team with no recognised left back and Luke shaw doesn’t count.

Only explanation is we try to bring someone in, otherwise thinning our options is suicidal, and Antony is used more than Casemiro or Eriksen or Rashford

 

[WouterWeghorst]

Shaw will be like a new signing, right?!

For about 5 minutes in training before the inevitable next injury.

 

[Dannn411]

For about 5 minutes in training before the inevitable next injury.

The next person who even thinks about offering Luke Shaw a contract should be immediately fired and reported to the authorities for money laundering.

 

[WouterWeghorst]

The next person who even thinks about offering Luke Shaw a contract should be immediately fired and reported to the authorities for money laundering.

We should pretend there's a WC or euro's coming up. that gets him fit usually. Maybe i'm being too synical..

 

[lysglimt]

It's nice that we are getting players out on loan - but at the end of the day, we still need some players in the squad. We can't rely on youngster for ever player who leaves

 

[Plant0x84]

Shaw will be like a new signing, right?!

When is Englands next game?

 

[Big Ben Foster]

I have no problem with no signings if the ones Amorim wants aren't available.

I was hoping we'd finally move on from manager-driven recruitment

 

[Plant0x84]

I was hoping we'd finally move on from manager-driven recruitment

Sigh. All recruitment is manager driven, they are a key piece of the puzzle otherwise you end up with a VDB situation who can’t get a game because the manager doesn’t fancy him.

 

[WhatIsLove]

Sigh. All recruitment is manager driven, they are a key piece of the puzzle otherwise you end up with a VDB situation who can’t get a game because the manager doesn’t fancy him.

It's weird because in every single profession its the manager or management who recruit their own.

Amorim is manager and this is his team. Of course the current team manager and higher management should have matching values but beyond that why would they blindside a manager like that. Football fans are odd

 

[Cheimoon]

It's weird because in every single profession its the manager or management who recruit their own.

Amorim is manager and this is his team. Of course the current team manager and higher management should have matching values but beyond that why would they blindside a manager like that. Football fans are odd

Not really. In an application process, there's a bit of selection by HR before the manger gets to have a look, and usually there's a hiring committee that decide together. (For big enough organizations, which is the relevant comparison for United.)

But that comparison doesn't really work; football recruitment is more like head hunting - which is what scouts do, not the manager. Once people have been identified though, again, it would be a hiring committee deciding on whom actually to bring in. And while a manager might identify what position needs filling, usually senior executes will set out strategic direction, which limits the bandwidth of managers in terms of what positions they have in their team.

Don't get me wrong, I think the comparison is pretty pointless; you do what works best, not what some unrelated business does. But I think it also doesn't say what you think it does.

 

[DavelinaJolie]

I was hoping we'd finally move on from manager-driven recruitment

I suppose it depends what you mean by manager driven recruitment. I imagine any manager needs some level of input in terms of incomings, but right now the squad needs to adapt to an entirely new system. When they hired Amorim I would have hoped they would have known that it's going to mean a large amount of squad turnover. It just so happens the squad was ripe for significant turnover anyway.

 

[bb8]

It's weird because in every single profession its the manager or management who recruit their own.

Amorim is manager and this is his team. Of course the current team manager and higher management should have matching values but beyond that why would they blindside a manager like that. Football fans are odd

I don't think you'll find many who have a problem with the manager being consulted on transfers. That's different than being "manager-driven" though. Being "driven" by the manager implies the manager dictates the decisions.

Why is that a poor practice? Because managers are coaching for their lives, and therefore are going to have a really short-term perspective to roster management. Take LB for example; we could target guys like Kerkez or someone like Anthony Robinson. Any manager probably prefers Robinson at the moment because he's currently a better player, but it's likely better for most teams to add Kerkez because he's 6-7 years younger. Basically, if you let managers dictate you're going to end up with transfers like 30 year old Casemiro, because it helps the manager keep his job even though it wrecks the club finances long-term.

Amorim wasn't even here 10 weeks ago, and realistically there's a fair chance he could be gone in 2-3 years (that's typical manager shelf life at least). Smart clubs aren't going to let a guy like that do whatever he wants when he comes to transfers. You need someone building a club with a long-term mindset. We're unlikely to win much this year regardless of what we do (Europa is really the one area left we could do something meaningful), so it'd be even sillier than typical to make short term moves. We should look for undervalued bargains, and if that means having to hold off from significant moves this window that's still far preferable to more panic win-now buys.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

I don't think you'll find many who have a problem with the manager being consulted on transfers. That's different than being "manager-driven" though. Being "driven" by the manager implies the manager dictates the decisions.

Why is that a poor practice? Because managers are coaching for their lives, and therefore are going to have a really short-term perspective to roster management. Take LB for example; we could target guys like Kerkez or someone like Anthony Robinson. Any manager probably prefers Robinson at the moment because he's currently a better player, but it's likely better for most teams to add Kerkez because he's 6-7 years younger. Basically, if you let managers dictate you're going to end up with transfers like 30 year old Casemiro, because it helps the manager keep his job even though it wrecks the club finances long-term.

Amorim wasn't even here 10 weeks ago, and realistically there's a fair chance he could be gone in 2-3 years (that's typical manager shelf life at least). Smart clubs aren't going to let a guy like that do whatever he wants when he comes to transfers. You need someone building a club with a long-term mindset. We're unlikely to win much this year regardless of what we do (Europa is really the one area left we could do something meaningful), so it'd be even sillier than typical to make short term moves. We should look for undervalued bargains, and if that means having to hold off from significant moves this window that's still far preferable to more panic win-now buys.

Thank you, exactly what I was trying to convey

 

[mazhar13]

 

[croadyman]

I have no problem with no signings if the ones Amorim wants aren't available.

Just a couple of loans til summer would at least give us a bit of depth where we lack it

 

[suheilsworld]

So what do we think? Is this club going to hang Amorim out to dry for the rest if the season? Doesn't look like we are going to do anything this window.

Just came to post this. About 2 weeks left and there have been no incomings nor outgoings. It’s going to be a tough 2nd half for us and Amorim to achieve something substantial with this squad.