Woziak
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I’m not sure Omar Berada or Blanc will be too keen on this appointment?fecking horrendous choice, INEOS want "best in class" then opt for fecking Southgate
I’m not sure Omar Berada or Blanc will be too keen on this appointment?fecking horrendous choice, INEOS want "best in class" then opt for fecking Southgate
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Southgate is United's #1 option, but of course, he's committed to England & the Euros at this point.
I don't understand fans who seem desperate to just be negative and mardy.
He's never finished mid table and even if you ignore any and all mitigation from this season (which you clearly are), he finished third last season and has reached 3 Cup finals in 2 years, winning 2 of those 3.
Im not saying he's THE guy, the messiah or will win the league with us. But if I were, I'd say that's as stupid as what you've just said.
How is it that any and all context or nuance just isn't a part of football discourse?
ETH is a good manager. He may not ultimately be the right one for us, particularly at this moment, but he's a good manager and it's extremely self deprecating to just act like if he's in charge next season that we'll be mid table.
My best guess is it's emotional immaturity and it's emotionally easier to just jump in the home and be completely negative because then you can't get hopes dashed?
But remove hope or optimism from football and it's an entirely pointless sport, in which 99% of people playing and watching it literally may as well not bother because very, very, very few clubs achieve success, especially consistently.
This is a pointless courting attempt if Real Madrid is involved, unfortunately.
This is a pointless courting attempt if Real Madrid is involved, unfortunately.
Yeah go and get Todibo who isn't fluttering his eyelashes for Real Madrid, well not yet anyway
This is a pointless courting attempt if Real Madrid is involved, unfortunately.
The only thing that we possibly have over them is that we can guarantee him minutes because he's coming instead of Varane and he's better than any player we have bar maybe Licha.
Madrid have Rudiger, Militao, Alaba and Nacho(which they maybe sell) and it will be pretty challenging for him to get some minutes. Other than that - they are favourites in every category.
It's just agent noise to get RM to hurry up. We're not getting him.
Or they have limited money left after signing MbappeNacho said he was leaving on a free but has been given time to decide as he was offered a 1yr extension. Madrid probably need another CB but they do have Vallejo out on loan who could be a depth option.
It seems strange they aren’t going for Yoro now instead of asking him to wait until next year unless they want a more senior guy this summer.
Or they have limited money left after signing Mbappe
We do have an option to extend which I think may have been activated so we in theory have 2 years, but I agree it looks like £30m is the maximum we will recoup.no point saying saying if he hasn’t had his issues. He has. Let’s get real. He hasn’t played for United for 2 years. Nor the PL. he has one year left on his contract.
if we get 30m for him we will ge lucky
8th is mid-table.
Fair to say most people associate 8-12th as mid tableNo it isn't and even if you really fought for the idea that 8th from 20 is the middle (factually it isn't but let's just give you it) my point still stands. That's a complete anomaly.
He's also finished third, so why not assume he'll just finish third again? He's never had a season that doesn't include at least a cup final, am I OK just assuming that won't change either and he therefore will always reach a cup final? No Because that's stupid, right? I agree.
So to also just assume 8th is now his level and ignore any and all context regarding the season is equally stupid.
There's a clear history to show that it's reasonable to think finishing 8th is a one off. Not typical. Less likely to happen than finishing above that next year.
Like I said, some people are just determined to be negative. You're welcome to it, I don't care, it's only yourself that you're needlessly finding reasons to make miserable.
I'll be alright, I'm mildly optimistic most summers because that's generally football. Even when you get slapped 4 nil you go into the next hoping for a better result. Unless you're like people such as you. Then you spend the week miserable and hating the idea of the next game coming. Cool.
In which case, I just pity that attitude.
But I'm talking to someone who insists that 8 is the half way point of 20 so I may as well be taking to a 10 year old. I've never seen 8th commonly referred to as mid table at all. At worst it's always been referred as a 'top half finish'.
Enjoy being miserable I guess! Gunna be a fun, fun few months for the like sof you hahahaha.
No it isn't and even if you really fought for the idea that 8th from 20 is the middle (factually it isn't but let's just give you it) my point still stands. That's a complete anomaly.
He's also finished third, so why not assume he'll just finish third again? He's never had a season that doesn't include at least a cup final, am I OK just assuming that won't change either and he therefore will always reach a cup final? No Because that's stupid, right? I agree.
So to also just assume 8th is now his level and ignore any and all context regarding the season is equally stupid.
There's a clear history to show that it's reasonable to think finishing 8th is a one off. Not typical. Less likely to happen than finishing above that next year.
Like I said, some people are just determined to be negative. You're welcome to it, I don't care, it's only yourself that you're needlessly finding reasons to make miserable.
I'll be alright, I'm mildly optimistic most summers because that's generally football. Even when you get slapped 4 nil you go into the next hoping for a better result. Unless you're like people such as you. Then you spend the week miserable and hating the idea of the next game coming. Cool.
In which case, I just pity that attitude.
But I'm talking to someone who insists that 8 is the half way point of 20 so I may as well be taking to a 10 year old. I've never seen 8th commonly referred to as mid table at all. At worst it's always been referred as a 'top half finish'.
Enjoy being miserable I guess! Gunna be a fun, fun few months for the like sof you hahahaha.
I’d love for us to sign Fofana from Monaco. He’d probably cost like 25/30m. Which would allow us to sign another midfielder.
That makes far too much sense for this club
No it isn't and even if you really fought for the idea that 8th from 20 is the middle (factually it isn't but let's just give you it) my point still stands. That's a complete anomaly.
They will In 2025I would love for us to make a decision about ETH and Greenwood - but that is still under review apparently
I would love for us to make a decision about ETH and Greenwood - but that is still under review apparently
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More info: Jason Wilcox and Matt Hargreaves are leading the way in executing the summer transfer window plans
€25m? Still have to pay 25m? We paid 10m for the loan so he’s 35m then?
Tier 2:
More info: Jason Wilcox and Matt Hargreaves are leading the way in executing the summer transfer window plans
If it’s FA Cup final Amrabat for a full season, sign me up.
€25m? Still have to pay 25m? We paid 10m for the loan so he’s 35m then?
This worries me, should have nothing to do with if Ten Hag stays or not. If he's the profile of player the club think we need then sign him. If he isn't then don't, regardless of if Ten Hag wants him or not.
Show us the moneySeems Jose wants Greenwood at Fernbache
Sky reported last year that it would cost €25 million (about £21 million) to sign him after the loan deal expired
I'd take him as a squad option for £21M
The problem is we possibly dont have enough cash to sort the first team to warrant spending money on squad players sadly/frustratingly.
Tier 2:
More info: Jason Wilcox and Matt Hargreaves are leading the way in executing the summer transfer window plans
I read something this morning that said greenwood isn’t keen on working with him though. Plus they won’t be able to afford 50m and we can’t afford to loan him again.Seems Jose wants Greenwood at Fernbache
I daresay that Turkey wouldn’t be a good experience for him and his family. Fans are very intense there and on top of you.I read something this morning that said greenwood isn’t keen on working with him though. Plus they won’t be able to afford 50m and we can’t afford to loan him again.
Nobody is paying anywhere near £50m for him.I read something this morning that said greenwood isn’t keen on working with him though. Plus they won’t be able to afford 50m and we can’t afford to loan him again.
Fenerbahce offer 8 million for GreenwoodSeems Jose wants Greenwood at Fernbache
It’s amazing how one performance (usually the last performance ) changes mindsets. The guy is terrible , send him back to Italian where he won’t get caught in possession .I'd take him as a squad option for £21M
Fenerbahce offer 8 million for Greenwood