Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24

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Concrete negotiations are now underway between Benjamin Pavard and Manchester United, as Philipp Kessler first reported.

Thomas Tuchel and the FC Bayern management would like to keep him - especially after Kyle Walker's rejection. However, staying is still not an option for Pavard. He wants a new challenge in another top league.
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Von Mistelroum said:
Sorry, severance pay?? Why is this useless git the only person I've ever heard of getting severance pay from a transfer? Can't wait to see the back of him!!
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He's accepting lower wages, so I'd imagine the severance pay is a way to bridge that gap over the remaining 2 years on his United contract
 
Adisa said:
He's not the only one. Happens all the time.
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Does it? I've only seen it in the likes of Aubameyang, Ozil at Arsenal and us with Sanchez etc who were paid to leave their hefty contracts. I can't imagine a transfer involving severance pay which is just odd.
 
The Corinthian said:
Does it? I've only seen it in the likes of Aubameyang, Ozil at Arsenal and us with Sanchez etc who were paid to leave their hefty contracts. I can't imagine a transfer involving severance pay which is just odd.
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He is taking a near 50% salary cut. Of course he’s going to get paid.
 
It's the difference in wages, simply means West Ham isn't matching his United wage, which I'm sure we all expected.
 
The mythical and elusive numbers 3 and 4 finally free for actual defenders. Add 5 to that soon.

Can't create a new Squad numbers 2023/2024 thread as a newbie, doh...
 
Mou Mou Land said:
I listen to his podcast with Kevin Day, and apart from some low level ABU stuff, as far as I can see, most of what he says is based on what he can see and read. He does not like making up scenarios from heresay.
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manuchamp88 said:
That's another can of worms - because he's good, but not peak Dani Alves/i.e. world-class, shouldn't we be looking for someone who is? Both Dalot and AWB are good, but neither are world-class. So, we could try selling both, then buy a quality RB and use Jurado as backup?
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Baxquux said:
Dunno, but one Reece James exists, for one, so conceivably there's at least another one similar. Doesn't have to possess all of Dani Alves' characteristics, or indeed be a total match for James (he just seems like a good model in terms of technical ability, positional intelligence, speed, strength, adaptability etc). We've got teams of scouts - maybe we can find one? AWB's ok in the interim, but there's a reason why people question him still above and beyond the usual fan grumbling where every player has a slump or two or just a weak spot
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Dazzmondo said:
Frimpong or Mazraoui who already played under ETH are 2 obvious ones straight away that would offer much more than either of our current rbs. Even Hakimi might not be out of the question considering PSG seem to have completely given up on their superstar project.
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AFC NimbleThumb said:
There’s your issue.

I actually quite like AWB but I’ve spent the best part of the last decade hearing how Maguire, McTominay & Fred are ‘fine’, which in todays game isn’t good enough.

We’ll be ok for the season but that position will require addressing next Summer imo if we are to excel there as we do on the other side when Shaw can be arsed.
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Suv666 said:
There are plenty of attacking fullbacks that exist in the market. Weird reason to justify AWB's renewal.

He's a below average footballer. You can't challenge for the league with someone as uncomfortable on the ball as him.

One underrated reason why we don't score enough is our shoddy fullbacks. Except hail mary crosses they offer nothing.
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You don’t need a world class player at every position, nor an attacking fullback to be successful. City won trophies with Kyle Walker, and AWB is not below average.
 


Source (Tier 1 - Loïc Tanzi): L'Équipe's live transfer tracker

Benjamin Pavard, Manchester United's priority

The departure of Harry Maguire will open up a central defensive position at Manchester United. Benjamin Pavard is Ten Hag's priority to replace him
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MackRobinson said:
You don’t need a world class player at every position, nor an attacking fullback to be successful. City won trophies with Kyle Walker, and AWB is not below average.
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You don't but AWB is certainly not good enough for United's first team. He can tackle and that's about it. He marginally improved going forward in a few games last year and suddenly everyone is convinced he's turned a corner. I just don't see it.
 
So Pavard has played regularly for France for more or less 5 years, played regularly for Stuttgart for 3 seasons and Bayern M for 4 seasons - but according to some people here, he isn't good enough.

Ok - just checking!
 
Dannn411 said:
We have done a really good job with clearing deadwood this summer against all odds. Fair play to club brass honestly.
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Agreed - one of the best posters on this forum made a thread about it. You should check it out.
 
lysglimt said:
So Pavard has played regularly for France for more or less 5 years, played regularly for Stuttgart for 3 seasons and Bayern M for 4 seasons - but according to some people here, he isn't good enough.

Ok - just checking!
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Not that I've been one moaning but tbf it seems he's more often than not playing right back and we'd be buying him as a center back so I can understand the uncertainty.

Also it seemed that Bayern were trying to replace him with Walker earlier this summer.
 
manuchamp88 said:
Bit harsh on Walker
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This. He's not the silkiest football amongst City's cohort, but he's better at the 'progressive' technical elements - AWB's a nigh-unparalleled slide tackler, so i'll give him the advantage there - than Aaron. Pep wouldn't keep AWB, just as he wouldnt keep McT in a month of sundays, and people defending the decision to de facto retain him through the valuation are indicating how little they expect from the team. Keeping those kind of 1st team squad profiles in today's game, particularly with McT is basically indicating that you're not serious about trying to win the title. Bissaka I think is Ok for the next 12 months as back-up RB or as a specialist but a full title challenge needs to be happening by year 3 of Ten Hag, so I'd definitely look to move him then.
 
lysglimt said:
So Pavard has played regularly for France for more or less 5 years, played regularly for Stuttgart for 3 seasons and Bayern M for 4 seasons - but according to some people here, he isn't good enough.

Ok - just checking!
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You can't fool me: you don't really mean that!
 
manuchamp88 said:
Bit harsh on Walker
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My point is Kyle Walker isn’t an attacking full back
Withnail said:
You don't but AWB is certainly not good enough for United's first team. He can tackle and that's about it. He marginally improved going forward in a few games last year and suddenly everyone is convinced he's turned a corner. I just don't see it.
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If he cuts down on mistakes and continues to lockdown left wingers he is fine for the first team. He’s no Reece James and he doesn’t need to be
 
Baxquux said:
This. He's not the silkiest football amongst City's cohort, but he's better at the 'progressive' technical elements - AWB's a nigh-unparalleled slide tackler, so i'll give him the advantage there - than Aaron. Pep wouldn't keep AWB, just as he wouldnt keep McT in a month of sundays, and people defending the decision to de facto retain him through the valuation are indicating how little they expect from the team. Keeping those kind of 1st team squad profiles in today's game, particularly with McT is basically indicating that you're not serious about trying to win the title. Bissaka I think is Ok for the next 12 months as back-up RB or as a specialist but a full title challenge needs to be happening by year 3 of Ten Hag, so I'd definitely look to move him then.
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I’m not even sure what that means but he’s not an attacking fullback.

AWB improved last season and can continue doing so this season. A “progressive” fullback isn’t a prerequisite to a good side. It’s pure fiction.
 
MackRobinson said:
My point is Kyle Walker isn’t an attacking full back

If he cuts down on mistakes and continues to lockdown left wingers he is fine for the first team. He’s no Reece James and he doesn’t need to be
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And his positioning in defence when he's doesn't have to make tackles? It's not mistakes, he's just bad at defending and relies on tackling to get him out of trouble but he can't do that under a high ball. If he hasn't learned to be defensively disciplined by now I'm not sure he ever will.
 
MackRobinson said:
I’m not even sure what that means but he’s not an attacking fullback.

AWB improved last season and can continue doing so this season. A “progressive” fullback isn’t a prerequisite to a good side. It’s pure fiction.
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Maybe but someone on the right handside needs to assist or create
And Antony wasn’t amazing at that last year so it would help
 
Baxquux said:
This. He's not the silkiest football amongst City's cohort, but he's better at the 'progressive' technical elements - AWB's a nigh-unparalleled slide tackler, so i'll give him the advantage there - than Aaron. Pep wouldn't keep AWB, just as he wouldnt keep McT in a month of sundays, and people defending the decision to de facto retain him through the valuation are indicating how little they expect from the team. Keeping those kind of 1st team squad profiles in today's game, particularly with McT is basically indicating that you're not serious about trying to win the title. Bissaka I think is Ok for the next 12 months as back-up RB or as a specialist but a full title challenge needs to be happening by year 3 of Ten Hag, so I'd definitely look to move him then.
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We won multiple titles with OShea, Phil Neville etc. sometimes the sum of all parts is better than the individual parts
 
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