[sincher]

It was a great call by Amorim to put him on as he gave us exactly what we needed in that game.

I have my doubts he is really good enough to be a first teamer for us into the future but he could certainly still be useful as he showed yesterday.

 

[Devil_forever]

It was a great call by Amorim to put him on as he gave us exactly what we needed in that game.

I have my doubts he is really good enough to be a first teamer for us into the future but he could certainly still be useful as he showed yesterday.

Title winning squads need a couple of O’Sheas and Parks

 

[Pogue Mahone]

He’s good in the air, isn’t he? Seeing as an aerial presence is basically all Casemiro gives us these days that’s a great attribute for him to have.

 

[Lentwood]

We should have used him more really.

Nobody is claiming he's "United standard" long term but he's been subbed on in two of our most difficult games this season and performed well.

This should be the final nail for Casemiro and Eriksen. Let them leave and give their minutes to Collyer (and even Gore in the very short term)

 

[Woodywizz]

Really impressed with the lad, looks very assured and doesn’t shirk out of a challenge. Made some great runs too.

 

[AB_89]

We should have used him more really.

Nobody is claiming he's "United standard" long term but he's been subbed on in two of our most difficult games this season and performed well.

This should be the final nail for Casemiro and Eriksen. Let them leave and give their minutes to Collyer (and even Gore in the very short term)

He's just come back from an injury

 

[Red00012]

Amad probably should have played the ball into him when he made that run. Not the easiest pass to make but it was worth attempting it.

 

[Freak]

I actually think he’ll become a mainstay in our team (not necessarily a starter all the time). We need squad players like him. He reminds me a lot of Declan Rice (not as good yet obviously)

 

[JE-365]

He just turned 21. At that age, whether we think he’s not good enough and we move him on or he should be at least relied on as Ugarte or Mainoo backup and giving him more playing times. I hope Amorim giving him some trust to start some games.

 

[red woppit]

Like his attitude a lot. He seems ok on the ball, plays it simply, not afraid to get stuck in, in fact, he seems to enjoy the physical aspect of the game.
He looks to be quite a biggish unit, height is given as 1.8 metres, 5ft 11in to us older members, but wouldn't be surprised if he was 6 feet now.
I think he's only played in 4 games so far, but I would think that Amorim would give him a number of minutes over the rest of the season, unless he goes on loan of course.
The more he plays, the better his passing will become.

 

[JJ12]

Ideally Casemiro still had some left in the tank and we could give him a good loan. We may need him though.

 

[Annouchez]

His best bet to get into this team for the rest of the season is to be that person who can give Ugarte a rest. No other person in our squad can do what Ugarte can do, but yesterday Collyer brought real energy and he put himself about. He may not have the long term quality needed for a top side, but he should be able to really help us out when needed.

Who knows, with real game time he might impress us all.. fingers crossed.

 

[Borninthe80ts]

Not saying that he will be guaranteed to develop but his more than a water carrier and runner for me. He could definitely play the fulcrum role for the team and set the tempo and rhythm for the team. Very composed and was running games from deep when on form in youth games. One of like 5 young players who can save us money next season.

 

[Dans]

He will never be a top class CM. And that's OK. We want a good, reliable player, like the Nicky Butts and the phil nevilles of this world. Let's hope he evolves into one.

How can you say that? I mean, he's 21, came on in a difficult situation at a crucial juncture in the game and was flawless and put a hell of a shift in. I thought he was brilliant considering and shows great promise.

 

[led_scholes]

How can you say that? I mean, he's 21, came on in a difficult situation at a crucial juncture in the game and was flawless and but a hell of a shift in. I thought he was brilliant considering and shows great promise.

I hope he proves me wrong and becomes a WC player. But all I said was complimentary. Being at the same level as Nicky Butt is not an accusation. The thing is you can be a Scholes (WC), a Butt (stable, reliable, a player all the top trams want to have), a Gibson (not good enough for a top 4 team) or a Norwood (OK career between Pl and championship).

 

[Oranges038]

He just turned 21. At that age, whether we think he’s not good enough and we move him on or he should be at least relied on as Ugarte or Mainoo backup and giving him more playing times. I hope Amorim giving him some trust to start some games.

He's only just gone 21 and has only been at the club 2 years, so it's not like he's been hanging around the youth teams and reserves all that time. Technically he seems to have the basics down, good touch and passing, physically he's capable of getting around the pitch, which is more than you can say for the other options.

He's at an age now where he needs to be given some regular appearances to see what he might be capable off. I'd personally prefer to see him get game time than waste any more minutes on Eriksen and Casemiro.

 

[Fortitude]

That mobility is going to make a career for him. Very few midfielders cover ground in that manner, with the pace and agility he has.

Yeah. One of those super athletes who even looks athletic amongst others who are there to be athletes. Very few of them about. Put some work to his game and hopefully he stays injury free, and he's a massive asset.

 

[Red in STL]

I hope he proves me wrong and becomes a WC player. But all I said was complimentary. Being at the same level as Nicky Butt is not an accusation. The thing is you can be a Scholes (WC), a Butt (stable, reliable, a player all the top trams want to have), a Gibson (not good enough for a top 4 team) or a Norwood (OK career between Pl and championship).

Paul Scholes at 21 with a few games played didn't look like a WC player either, most players who become WC don't

 

[elmo]

Looks more athletic than most of our first team players especially in a position where we’re sorely lacking in that.

 

[Shabby as she goes]

Was decent today and it was nice to see one of our players winning headers in midfield from goal kicks. (Obviously I mean the goal kicks that actually stayed in play)

He will never be a top class CM. And that's OK. We want a good, reliable player, like the Nicky Butts and the phil nevilles of this world. Let's hope he evolves into one.

Have some patience with the lad. He’s just turned 21, and it’s his first season in the first team.
I think he’s doing great at this stage and point in his career. Think it’s reasonable to expect he’ll only improve in the next few years.
I remember at Feyenoord players like De Vrij and Wijnaldum had their first season(s) and many said they wouldn’t hack it. Or look at Gravenberch or Gakpo at Liverpool. Players may need several seasons to reach their potential

Give him 2.5 years of sound development and who knows what level he may reach when he’s at Ugarte’s current age

But you’re right; if he turns out to be ‘just’ a squad player, that may be just as well. Let’s wait and see

 

[led_scholes]

Have some patience with the lad. He’s just turned 21, and it’s his first season in the first team.
I think he’s doing great at this stage and point in his career. Think it’s reasonable to expect he’ll only improve in the next few years.
I remember at Feyenoord players like De Vrij and Wijnaldum had their first season(s) and many said they wouldn’t hack it. Or look at Gravenberch or Gakpo at Liverpool. Players may need several seasons to reach their potential

Give him 2.5 years of sound development and who knows what level he may reach when he’s at Ugarte’s current age

But you’re right; if he turns out to be ‘just’ a squad player, that may be just as well. Let’s wait and see

Oh I hope he becomes our best CM together with Mainoo. However, I don't know why people find the Nicky Butt comparison as something bad. He was a squad, an almost regular player for United who was winning PL after PL, and England. When he left, he became ome the captain of Newcastle.

I will be more than ecstatic to have a player like this again from our academy. A 25nyears old Nicky butt would probably cost around 50 to 60 millions today.

I just consider Butt one and a half level below Keane and Scholes, who were among the elite, and one level below Carrick and Fletcher who almost become part of the elite.

I like what I have seen from him till now, and I d like him to feature more as the season goes. For me this season is a great to chance to try develop him in house and not loaning him.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Nicky Butt was a very, very good player.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Nicky Butt was a very, very good player.

Yeah, excellent player.

 

[Johnthedevil]

Nicky Butt was the first to break through of the 92 gang wasn't he (aside from Giggs). I loved Butty - was a great player. Full of energy and drive.

 

[Oranges038]

Nicky Butt was a very, very good player.

You don't make up on 40 appearances a season for 10 years under SAF in title winning teams without being a brilliant player. He'd probably be the best midfielder at the club if he was around now.

 

[andersj]

How tall is he? Looks quite big actually.

 

[2 man midfield]

I’m hopeful he can be what we thought McTominay was, (until it turned out he wasn’t really a centre mid at all). A decent, reliable and combative central midfielder who puts a shift in and isn’t afraid to take the ball.

 

[Bobski]

Nicky Butt was the first to break through of the 92 gang wasn't he (aside from Giggs). I loved Butty - was a great player. Full of energy and drive.

Peaked very early, up to 23/24 he was often keeping Scholes out of the team on merit, dropped off after that. PFA team of the year selection in 97/98 as well.

When you watch match highlights of games from that era it is a little surprising how good his passing range was, he could ping the switch to either wing, not to the level of Scholes/Beckham in terms of consistency but he had the range and also had a bit of that Carrick/Keane ability to whip balls between the lines to the strikers feet.

 

[Tallis]

I think there is enough mix of qualities there that he can become a good option for us. He is tall, physical and great running stats. He also seems to be a good carrier of the ball.

Perhaps not a first choice start but Ugarte is going to need to rest and we are not going to have loads of money to buy 7-8 players next season.

 

[Fortitude]

What is good for him is that Amorim looks like the real deal who will give him a great education and have him understand his role and how midfield works from the outset. That means no wasted hours and no aimlessness, which is something our kids have suffered from under poor coaching setups for a while. This should see Collyer realise whatever potential he has and at the least, be positionally sound and aware.

His actual ability on and with the ball will be determinant of the role he gets to play in the squad; if he’s just a hurly burly super athlete, his role will be rather specialist and specific, whilst if he’s a player, he could easily find himself becoming the first rotation off the bench for both Mainoo and Ugarte. If he’s able enough technically, you’ve got two very different midfield units there that could prove very useful for us.

It’s great that his performance has propelled him into the conversation for viable playing time, we really need that as a unit. It’s especially good if we’ve suddenly gone from unfit and immobile in midfield to a pairing that can lock horns physically with literally anything in the league.

 

[NLunited]

I had high hopes for him, but he didn‘t get much playing time. He looked good and I hope to see more of him.

 

[Tarrou]

Nicky Butt was a very, very good player.

nah it was just one very

 

[AneRu]

It's great that his cameo has put him in the conversation for more game time with the first team. If we are going to get out of this hole the academy and some well scouted punts will have to do a lot of the heavy lifting. We basically need these graduates to at least fill out the squad and if they can be starters or first rotation options then it will be a huge bonus.

Here is hoping that there is a LWB at Carrington just waiting for his chance in the first team and he proves to be a useful one too.

 

[Satissh12]

 

[Bwuk]

He's probably become 4th choice midfielder after Ugarte/Bruno/Mainoo as I can't see Amorim wanting to use Casemiro or Eriksen again.

 

[Crimson King]

As long as he actually gets some game time. He should be used to take the pressure off of Ugarte, otherwise that lad will have to play in every match. I think he has a role, as long as he's alongside someone more attacking like Kobbie, Bruno, even Mount (if he can ever get fit) and maybe even Eriksen. It would depend on the opposition though.

Useful sub as well, depending on game state, as we saw at the weekend.

 

[Grande]

nah it was just one very

But two goods

 

[CM]

I had been wondering why Collyer hadn't had any minutes for Amorim before the Arsenal game when his competition for the fringes are so poor.

Collyer looks a fairly limited player himself but a player with legs, will and desire is probably a net positive in a time where the manager is attempting to change the culture at the club.

 

[RuudTom83]

In lots of ways the players pick the team.

Casemiro was reluctant to press high up the pitch early in Amorim tenure, and we haven’t seen him much since.

Collyer did very well in the role he was given on Sunday. But it was the perfect scenario for him to come in.

From that display I expect he will be given another chance…up to him to take it! no one else.

 

[Rozay]

Never seen him do anything constructive with the ball in his first team cameos. Seems to have garnered a lot of excitement by running a lot.