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I agree.

Darmian really annoyed me with his last injury of last season. Where he signalled to be subbed off the second he touched the floor.

If I were a United player and had his injury riddled season, I'd try staying on that pitch to prove myself until they had to drag me away

Aye I'm just not a Darmian fan. I don't rate him at all. Bar his first month or so, he's been very poor or meh. I doubt he has much of a future here.
 
With the speculation before the deal about him leaving, for anyone who remembers, when Pogba left would it be the same feeling if TFM left or was Pogba more guaranteed to make it?
 
At least one of Darmian, Blind, Jones and Rojo will be sold. Longshot, i know. One of Darmian or Rojo i think. Hmm, Rojo has that crazy bastardo about him which maybe Mourinho likes but Darmian is perhaps a little more solid defensively. Tough one.
 
So is he actually good, or is he the McNair good, where I see people rating him for the future and he gets sold then all I see is "He was never going to be good enough"
 
So is he actually good, or is he the McNair good, where I see people rating him for the future and he gets sold then all I see is "He was never going to be good enough"

McNair wasn't really rated by many. In fact, plenty said he was shite. I'm sure some overrated him but that happens with pretty much every academy player.
 
Its not? I genuinely asked a question as I don't remember how pogba was viewed, a neutral question can't be hyperbolic.

I thought you were comparing the two as at a similar level when Pogba left.

It was always felt at the club that Pogba would become world-class, TFM is a level below in terms of potential than Pogba was imo.
 
So is he actually good, or is he the McNair good, where I see people rating him for the future and he gets sold then all I see is "He was never going to be good enough"

Has the potential to be a beast and is already better than McNair.
 
So is he actually good, or is he the McNair good, where I see people rating him for the future and he gets sold then all I see is "He was never going to be good enough"
I don't think McNair was that highly rated as an academy player, people were a bit surprised when he started to get first team games. The opposite is true of Fosu-Mensah, he's thought of as a very talented prospect. Physically he is a cut above McNair, he's very quick, strong and powerful. And he came from Ajax so his ability on the ball is stellar.
 
I thought you were comparing the two as at a similar level when Pogba left.

It was always felt at the club that Pogba would become world-class, TFM is a level below in terms of potential than Pogba was imo.

No I didn't follow our young prospects very closely a few years back so when Pogba left I heard the news but it didn't mean anything to me until he started putting in performances at Juve. TFM certainly has the attributes to become a very good player but he may be a touch too rash, a lot of what he does that is great is also pretty risky lunges and late tackles.
 
No I didn't follow our young prospects very closely a few years back so when Pogba left I heard the news but it didn't mean anything to me until he started putting in performances at Juve. TFM certainly has the attributes to become a very good player but he may be a touch too rash, a lot of what he does that is great is also pretty risky lunges and late tackles.

Pogba always had outstanding technique coupled with his obvious physical prowess.

Sir Alex's biggest mistake was to not give him his chance in 2011/12.
 
Great news. Personally I wouldn´t mind if he grows in to a top-class RB. Not as glamorous perhaps, but an essential part of modern football.

If we´re able to field two great full-backs in a couple of years, we can add an element to our game thats been lacking for a while.
 
Where does it say TFM is seen as a RB?

This season I wouldn't mind him playing there because I think it's his best chance to earn valuable playing time. I hope he gets a chance to play midfield in lesser matches though. Ready to transition him to that (his best) position for the future.
 
Fuso-Mensah is apparently 190cm at 18 years of age. That's really fecking tall isn't it? How much more is he likely to grow? 4-5cm? If he plays in defensive midfield, we will have two beasts in him and Pogba. Could be something!
 
Where does it say TFM is seen as a RB?

This season I wouldn't mind him playing there because I think it's his best chance to earn valuable playing time. I hope he gets a chance to play midfield in lesser matches though. Ready to transition him to that (his best) position for the future.

Telegraph are saying he'll be Valencia's back-up this season.
 
Fuso-Mensah is apparently 190cm at 18 years of age. That's really fecking tall isn't it? How much more is he likely to grow? 4-5cm? If he plays in defensive midfield, we will have two beasts in him and Pogba. Could be something!

It's not just his height but also his muscle mass, its absurd for a teenager.
 
Where does it say TFM is seen as a RB?

This season I wouldn't mind him playing there because I think it's his best chance to earn valuable playing time. I hope he gets a chance to play midfield in lesser matches though. Ready to transition him to that (his best) position for the future.

In the article.
 
It's not just his height but also his muscle mass, its absurd for a teenager.

Exactly, it's so rare to find someone who is such a powerful runner who can play in midfield.

We could have him and Pogba running through teams, with someone like Blind spreading play behind them, it could work similar to Vidal-Pogba-Pirlo midfield of old.

Playing Fosu-Mensah at right back is a waste imo. It's rare to find such a powerful player who can play in the middle.
 
It's not just his height but also his muscle mass, its absurd for a teenager.
He's not exactly slow either. Technically already decent too. A real top talent. Like I've said already I hope he plays RB or anywhere for that matter this season just to get minutes under his belt but I really see him playing centrally either CB or CM.
 
Exactly, it's so rare to find someone who is such a powerful runner who can play in midfield.

We could have him and Pogba running through teams, with someone like Blind spreading play behind them, it could work similar to Vidal-Pogba-Pirlo midfield of old.

Playing Fosu-Mensah at right back is a waste imo. It's rare to find such a powerful player who can play in the middle.

100% waste if he is used at right back yeah. I just hope Mou will do right here, he has all the traits to be a great DM. I still think Blind can do a job there but Fosu-Mensah's physical attributes make me give him the nod ahead, but he just needs to have that intelligent foresight needed to protect the back for, he is still young though but he has what it takes to make it.
 
So is he actually good, or is he the McNair good, where I see people rating him for the future and he gets sold then all I see is "He was never going to be good enough"

I'm not quite sure.
We know he is physically large - his fans keep harping on about that.
But regarding his football - they don't seem to mention too much of his footballing ability.

If some of his fans saw WWE, they'd be salivating!!!
 
Wish we could actually see him in the midfield as that's his specialized postition. Hopefully we will see it in a dead-rubber Europa league game where he impresses but I doubt he will get the chance.
 
No I didn't follow our young prospects very closely a few years back so when Pogba left I heard the news but it didn't mean anything to me until he started putting in performances at Juve. TFM certainly has the attributes to become a very good player but he may be a touch too rash, a lot of what he does that is great is also pretty risky lunges and late tackles.
Pogba had magic in him whether it was his shooting ability from afar, his amazing ball manipulation, and he had vision. The magic I see from TFM is his tackling ability. It really amazes me. I don't think it's a case of him being rash. If he were being rash we would have seen far more missed tackles and fouls. His success rate with tackling is amazing. He went on to prove that at first team level. I think Pearson was more rash for example.

I think rb would be a waste and I think people might end up disappointed in him. I don't particularly think he is great at attacking which is what is expected of modern rbs. His athleticism and good technique (for a cb/dm) allows him to drive the ball forward with his dribbling. He can occasionally pull off a great pass or through ball. However, most of the time TFM will look to pass it off to a nearby teammate after going forward a bit with the ball as I don't think he's confident in his attacking ability. I think you saw that with the first team a bit too.

I originally wanted him at cb, but with Pogba here I want him as a dm. Pogba is a true offensive talent at cm. I think TFM will compliment him perfectly and he wouldn't have as much pressure to provide offense with Pogba around. Plus, he and Pogba can potentially bully players around with TFM providing most of the bullying with Pogba free to get stuck in occasionally.
 
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I think rb would be a waste and I think people might end up disappointed in him. I don't particularly think he is great at attacking which is what is expected of modern rbs. His athleticism and good technique (for a cb/dm) allows him to drive the ball forward with his dribbling. He can occasionally pull off a great pass or through ball.

I originally wanted him at cb, but with Pogba here I want him as a dm. Pogba is a true offensive talent at cm. I think TFM will compliment him perfectly and he wouldn't have as much pressure to provide offense with Pogba around. Plus, he and Pogba can potentially bully players around with TFM providing most of the bullying with Pogba free to get stuck in occasionally.

Most physically imposing midfield since Keane and Ince? :drool:

Would be nice if there was a Bilbao version of Javi Martinez or young Arturo Vidal, both without the injuries, available at the moment to pair up with both of them. Bully ball with plenty of flair and vision.
 
Pogba had magic in him whether it was his shooting ability from afar, his amazing ball manipulation, and he had vision. The magic I see from TFM is his tackling ability. It really amazes me. I don't think it's a case of him being rash. If he were being rash we would have seen far more missed tackles and fouls. His success rate with tackling is amazing. He went on to prove that at first team level. I think Pearson was more rash for example.

I think rb would be a waste and I think people might end up disappointed in him. I don't particularly think he is great at attacking which is what is expected of modern rbs. His athleticism and good technique (for a cb/dm) allows him to drive the ball forward with his dribbling. He can occasionally pull off a great pass or through ball. However, most of the time TFM will look to pass it off to a nearby teammate after going forward a bit with the ball as I don't think he's confident in his attacking ability. I think you saw that with the first team a bit too.

I originally wanted him at cb, but with Pogba here I want him as a dm. Pogba is a true offensive talent at cm. I think TFM will compliment him perfectly and he wouldn't have as much pressure to provide offense with Pogba around. Plus, he and Pogba can potentially bully players around with TFM providing most of the bullying with Pogba free to get stuck in occasionally.

I do see it as a touch rash, but also superb technique at the same time, for instance the Everton penalty, that was a great tackle but also he gave away a penalty because against prem players if you dive in, in the box they will try their luck and go down. His standing tackle reminds me a lot of Pogba, throws his weight about well, instant bursts of acceleration and his legs seem to come from all angles.

I agree completely with that, so many times last season he intercepted and burst then to only make a five yard backpass to a teammate, similar to smalling. Whether that was because the team weren't breaking due to LVG tactics or he didn't have that side of his game where he could try a risky pass I don't know, but if we play at a higher tempo this season, players like him, pogba and mkhy stealing the ball and bursting could be a real feature of our play. RB is Valencia's spot, I see the DM spot as much more open and suitable.

Seriously, how much would teams dread playing that midfield? Not just in terms of ability but bruises too.
 
well, wherever we play him, the good news is that he's apparently signed a new 4 year contract :D
 
So is he actually good, or is he the McNair good, where I see people rating him for the future and he gets sold then all I see is "He was never going to be good enough"

Who was rating McNair? Mostly the reserves crowd were rightly surprised to see him and Blackett get their shot ahead of better players. At no point in his development has he been one of the exciting stars, more a reliable good player. Timmy is the Januzaj or Rashford of his group, the standout talent.
 
RB is a good spot to learn from. He will have to polish his positional play, learn patience defending 1 vs 1, and improve his attacking game and it is a good spot to transition to DM/CB as he develops. RB to CB has always been a common transition and with the modern game's emphasis on attacking play we are seeing a lot of RB to CM/DM transitions too.
 
Versatile, quick, great physical attribute, great stamina and good defensive ability. If he fails to be a midfielder, he can still be a very good right back imo. He needs to improve his passing and decision making if he wants to convince Jose to play him as a midfielder.
 
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