Needs to be a CDM. But I'm happy to see him anywhere on the pitch to be honest. If it was up to me, I'd keep him at RB over Darmian and Valencia. I don't rate those two whatsoever. Mensah at least looks like a good prospect.
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No one is sure what his best position is. From the very little i have seen of him, his interception and tackling is very good, has a good engine and is a decent passer of the ball, but he's a bit rash and likes a sliding tackle too many, i think he'll be off as a DM.
I agree, lets hope the rashness is the over enthusiasm of youth not a long term thing like it was with Rafael. I also think long term his best position is as a box to box midfielder. Positionally he is definately lacking for a right back at the moment. I just think is strength, pace and talent at reading and intercepting the ball, not to mention for a young defensive player he seems to have good technique give all the ingredients for a central midfielder. The thought of how good he could be alongside , Pogba and Perreira in midfield is mouth watering if they can all progress well in a couple of years, potentially the best midfield we have had for a long time.
I can't believe he was told to find a club to go on loan this season. It seems like a bad decision from Mourinho. It's true Fosu-Mensah didn't impress against Wigan, but still, he should try him at DM.
I don't think he's going, not even on loan. The man is your prototypical JoMo tank. If United doesn't land another CM, I fully expect all the MF spots to be up for grabs, except for Pogba's.
The kid was born in '98. Give him time to grow.
The kid was born in '98. Give him time to grow.
I hope he's patient. He's only 18. We don't need to rush him and we don't want him to burnout at 25 as well.
If we are indeed a club that promote and develop youth, the youngsters need to be taught to be patient.
If we are indeed a club that promote and develop youth, the youngsters need to be taught to be patient.
I was kind of hoping he would play alongside Pogba and another midfielder at least once this season.
Sounds like the kinda loan we ll probably regret by December if the rumors are true. I agree he is rash in the few times he played for the first team but what player isn't at his age? I'm actually impressed with how often his timing was spot on despite it initially appearing to be a rash play. The lad has some balls for his age. I'd be okay with fellow Dutchies Stam and Davids helping him to become a true pitbull on the pitch for us. We need more than Fellaini s elbows.
Nonsense article based on who wasn't on training (TFM is injured).
He said "recovering" in Twitter before the training session pictures are uploaded. 
relax people. Personally I just hope he doesn't become another Phil Jones due to getting too many injury because of reckless play. He has so much talent and I hope he doesn't blow it up with injury.
relax people. Personally I just hope he doesn't become another Phil Jones due to getting too many injury because of reckless play. He has so much talent and I hope he doesn't blow it up with injury.Where are people getting their fact that TFM signed a new contract? As far as I know he was offered one but hasn't signed.
If anyone can direct me to a link saying otherwise I'd be grateful.
If anyone can direct me to a link saying otherwise I'd be grateful.
He signed one last summer, never heard of him signing one this summer.
Was it a 2 years contract? transfermarkt.com, if its reliable, states it expires in 2017. No +1 year extension clause like we normally do.
It isn't widely reported and all I can find is 3 years on one site. Transfermarkt isn't very reliable for young players.
daily mail and co are trying to convince anyone that can read that the likes Fosu- Mensah suddenly have their futures in doubt under Mourinho...wtf?
I suspect he'll go out on loan having been demoted to the u21's. Thought this might be his breakthrough season but perhaps not... whatever happens, I really hope we don't sell as I reckon that would come back to bite us.
we can't be stupid to sale 18 years olds who have tasted first team football like he and Jackson have.
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I am surprised that Mourinho is not keeping TFM. He seemed to be a perfect candidate youth player for Mourinho to bring up. I would rather have him than Fellaini to be honest.
Don't want to believe we're letting this guy go.
Don't think he was playing with the U21s, he was injured so wasn't with the senior team in training.
I don't really know whether he trained or not to be honest... but to my knowledge, he has been dropped down to the u21's.
Wasn't there talk of a new contract a month or 2 ago or did I imagine that? I find it hard to believe he won't be around the 1st team this season. Not only can he play in multiple positions he's bloody good!
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He will get plenty of game time this season if he stays. I mean, we are going to play circa 45-55 games this season IMO, so there's plenty of minutes for him there.
It will leave me slightly peeved with Jose if Pereira and Mensah leave and Fellaini and Young stay. Not gonna lie.
It will leave me slightly peeved with Jose if Pereira and Mensah leave and Fellaini and Young stay. Not gonna lie.
He'd get games but would he get quality game time in a specialist position? or would he get used as a utility man and shifted here there and everywhere.
He needs a loan to a club and needs a specialist position asap.
He's 18, a bit of a patience wouldn't go amiss with him. He can get sufficient gametime and experience at a high level (European football) even if it comes at what your perceiving as an expense - in different positions.
A loan isn't essential at all. As I said, Pereira and Mensah can really press for a first team spot, I truly believe that. If that's the case then why not persist with them and give them the opportunity?
Jeez I remember watching the World Cup after school the year he was born. Now I feel really old
Im hoping he stays and gets a chance. BUT if staying means sitting on the bench and not playing he is better off going somewhere on loan and actually playing.
Well he tweeted yesterday that he was injured. Then posted "blablabla" I'm guessing in response to all the bullshit in the papers. Suppose we will see but I hope he doesn't leave on loan.
Realistically, they won't get regular game time. Pereira has too many players infront of them and Mensah hasn't even got a firm position yet.
Loaning them out is a great move. Likewise Borthwick-Jackson. They'll get proper football at good clubs (ideally) instead of pissing around in England's pathetic excuse of an U21 set up.
Not loaning players out soon enough has been one of my biggest issues with the club over the past few years. We had players like Tom Thorpe that were almost 22 and had barely notched up 20 professional games of football. We can't let that happen to this next crop.
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I disagree with how United have tried to bring through youth players for many years. We have had alot of talented youngsters who seem to reach a stage where they have no specialist position and then do not know how to claim a proper first team place.
It is why someone like Rashford has made a breakthrough because he knows what he is and sticks to it. Januzaj, Perreira and Pogba before them for example, we had no idea what is their best role and how to plan their arrival into first team football by ensuring they got chances in their preferred positions and were allowed to develop in those positions.
Giving lads first team football in positions they are not comfortable in, can have some limited benefits i.e. they get a greater appreciation of the demands of their team mates, a better understanding of the game but to be totally honest by the age of 18.. you should already have learnt all that. By 18/19, you should be specialising in your best position and learning to produce for the first team. We baby players for far too long and waste their careers.
Someone like Will Keane, like seriously.. what is he still doing here. He's 23 FFS, the guy should be playing first team football for a EPL side. Not still turning out for United reserves.
TFM is just wasting his time if he stays here as a squad player, it will just stagnate his development. Physically he is ready to be a first team player at EPL level. He needs to go out in the real world and develop into a first team player for United.. he's not going to get that being shoehorned into positions ill suited to his strengths and not being allowed to develop his natural game.
Imagine a full season under his belt as a defensive midfielder for say Everton (30 odd games as a starter) vs 4 starts and 15 sub appearances at right back/dm for United. Which one will develop him more?
By next year with a year of first team experience under his belt, or 2 years of experience.. he could be a nailed on starter for the first team.
Hasn't he just been given a new squad number? Seems strange to do that if he's on his way (unless it's just a loan).
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I don't agree, but each to their own. As I said, we should realistically be looking at 50+ games this season including competitions such as the Europa League and Capital One Cup where we can/should be able to afford to blood young players such as Pereira and Mensah.
We still have deadwood at the club such as Young, Fellaini, Rojo, etc. I'd much rather see the likes of Pereira and Mensah get gametime opposed to players who frankly have probably less than two transfer windows left at the club. They clearly have no future here, so why play them?
I don't believe they have too many players in front of them either. It's not absurd to suggest Pereira can move above Mata in the pecking order, given the letters history with Jose. Likewise with Herrera. Mensah could get gametime ahead of Darmian and Valencia at right back, seeing as neither are nailed-on first team players.
IMO, they should be given one season to see if they can stake a claim and then re-evaluate it at the end of the season. If they don't get as much gametime loan them out, if they do then great, that's a success. Personally, I think both of them are worth a punt. CBJ less so.
I don't agree, but each to their own. As I said, we should realistically be looking at 50+ games this season including competitions such as the Europa League and Capital One Cup where we can/should be able to afford to blood young players such as Pereira and Mensah.
We still have deadwood at the club such as Young, Fellaini, Rojo, etc. I'd much rather see the likes of Pereira and Mensah get gametime opposed to players who frankly have probably less than two transfer windows left at the club. They clearly have no future here, so why play them?
I don't believe they have too many players in front of them either. It's not absurd to suggest Pereira can move above Mata in the pecking order, given the letters history with Jose. Likewise with Herrera. Mensah could get gametime ahead of Darmian and Valencia at right back, seeing as neither are nailed-on first team players.
IMO, they should be given one season to see if they can stake a claim and then re-evaluate it at the end of the season. If they don't get as much gametime loan them out, if they do then great, that's a success. Personally, I think both of them are worth a punt. CBJ less so.
How many top players have broken into their first team from youth team football (at United. Real, Barca, Bayern) without getting regular minutes in their favored position.. and never going out on loan?
I actually think the “little thingy” Mourinho was referring is Fosu-Mensah's new contract. The manager is playing hardball with him. Sign or else… The denial by his agent just confirms it.
Should go to Hull on loan. They only have about 8 players in their squad. Will get tons of games.
cnut better not start fecking with our future,future in which there is a chance he wont be part of. You dont trust them,you think they arent good enough under pressure in PL title chase,fine but they are good enough to play a CC/FA/EL game at home or to some forsaken place in EL away.
Interesting that out of all the players which has been left out for the Swedish trip, he has only bothered to explain the absences of Smalling and Fosu Mensah, certainly indicates to me that he's very much in first squad picture.
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