Crumbs of comfort for Monaco fans as they lose their best players and see PSG romp home with the domestic title.
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Crumbs of comfort for Monaco fans as they lose their best players and see PSG romp home with the domestic title.
Has to be. If Coutinho were staying this guy would be completely the wrong player for Liverpool.
I think they should have other priorities than another pretty passing technical whiz with a penchant for Hollywood shots, but hopefully Klopp won't realise that before Thursday
To be fair if you manage to sell the wantaway Coutinho for 130m and use the money for Lemar and VVD then I'd argue that you've improved the squad and done as well out of the Coutinho situation as you could have hoped.
Seems only Monaco are doing that though, everyon else is sticking to their guns and selling nothing unless the prices offered are eye watering
That is what he has done, he also has one of the best set peice delivery in the world.
I'd hardly call a team that sells all there best players a brilliant club. Even to domestic rivals, more like selling club.
With the money, they will be competitive at the national level until 2025 at least
Because Monaco have no sponsors, they have a ridiculous attendance and Ligue 1 doesn't have a big TV deal. In order to comply with FFP Monaco has to sell players every year, they could have kept 1 or 2 players this season but don't kid yourself, they would have been sold next year.
IMO if Liverpool get Lemar, they'll have a better team than United.
I really, really like him. Was almost as impressed by him as I was by Mbappe.
I really, really like him. Was almost as impressed by him as I was by Mbappe.
I suppose in the same way Dortmund have been competitive to Bayern for the past 5 years.
French clubs used to be stupid selling clubs, now they are smart selling clubs.
In 2001, PSG acquired Ronaldinho for an amount around 15-20 millions of euros. The WC Winner 2002 Ronaldinho left PSG for 32 m in 2003 FFS even if I know the market was different.
Now, you can sell a left-back like Mendy 57 millions, acquired for 15 millions.
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Does Dortmund play the Champions League each season? Yes. Not a shame to be behind Bayern.
I agree with this as for as depth goes
Well that kinda makes Monaco an exception then and shouldn't be used as a "that's what football has become" example.
At a time when Soton are turning down £50m for VVD and tiny Torino are rejecting £60m bids for 1 season wonder Bellotti, I wouldn't say football's become about selling, more the opposite.
Well, you don't really expect Dortmund or Monaco to compete with Bayern or PSG without using a sugar daddy? You just have to look at the difference between the cities and their potential visibility. If football is a business then Paris and Munich clubs will have a huge advantage compared to Monaco and Dortmund. Without even thinking about QSI.
I'm talking about Monaco and no one else here. And Monaco aren't really the only one, all the clubs in little markets who wants to be in European competitions will have the same problem.
As you know, there is a difference between Dortmund and Monaco in terms of club profile.
Monaco is a unique case: great history from a French perspective but no fan base unfortunately.
Monaco Fans aren't in a position to exert pressure on the management.
They already are a better attacking team, in my opinion. This signing would be strengthening where they are already very strong.
I know but in the end, the gap between Monaco and Paris is close to the gap between Bayern and Dortmund. (when you don't cheat).
Then they're not competitive for the domestic title. Qualifying for the CL does not equal competing for the title.
Nothing of note links us but when Liverpool sign him they'll have beaten us to his signature. Grand.
And Liverpool spending £80m or whatever on the one area they don't really need too is funny. A CB and CM should be more pressing.
And Liverpool spending £80m or whatever on the one area they don't really need too is funny. A CB and CM should be more pressing.
PSG has recourse to legal "financial & accounting optimization": that isn't cheating
That said, UEFA will invent retroactive rules
Agree
Exactly. Anyone trying to paint the decimation of Monaco as anything other than anti-competitive and thus, anti-sport are deluding themselves.PSG has recourse to legal "financial & accounting optimization": that isn't cheating
That said, UEFA will invent retroactive rules
Don't FFP rules state that injecting Capital into a club by overstating revenue (via overvaluing sponsorship linked to the owner) is against the rules?
I'd say that if we do sell Coutinho for 130m and instead buy Lemar and a defender, our squad is definitely better. Last night showed that our attack is pretty decent even without Coutinho. But I doubt that Lemar alone is better. Sounds like it could be a rather busy day at Barca, Liverpool and Monaco.
Agreed
FFP is a process: formal and informal meetings, nego, adjustements (regarding the value of the sponsorships as did in the past)...
PSG knows who is who at the UEFA. The club also recourses to diverse advisors (legal, fiscal, accounting, financial...)
PSG will be punished for sure but we can't predict the sanctions at this stage (fine, points, exclusion, limits on transfer, transfer bans..).
FFP is really a political process
But we've already added Salah as well, so I'd say even if we were to get in Lemar & sell Coutinho that our squad would be stronger than last year.
Still inexcusably shallow in midfield & woeful in defence, but better than last year.
Don't think I agree. Our offence is better, but I'm not sure about midfield and your defense and keeper is much, much better. Apart from attack, your squad as a whole is a lot stronger too.
Why are Pool fans convinced they going to get him? I don't think they selling him and Mbappe in the last few days of the window. They a bit forced to sell Mbappe as he'd be in the last year next year, so they won't get a big fee next year.
This made me chuckle for some reason..
Let's hope this deal does not go through
Sure, our attacking line is stronger than before, but unless Can keeps performing like he did yesterday and against Hoffenheim our midfield and defence in particularly are soft spots. I suspect that we are planning on selling Coutinho for a shit load and then buy Lemar and a defender. Well, I hope so anyways..
Where would he even play?
Im all for squad depth but surely that's only a concern after the midfield / defence and keeper positions are sorted?
Im all for squad depth but surely that's only a concern after the midfield / defence and keeper positions are sorted?
Liverpool could be a real threat this year if they get him and Van Dijk. Selling Coutinho for £130m, and still making £25m profit, while improving your team from last year. Got to be happy with that.
Signing for Liverpool is such a dickhead thing imo.
You're not really likely to challenge for trophies, not consistently, or at least I just don't think they can keep up/fight for top rated talent like other clubs, but then they're stuck in that weird limbo where they are not exactly a fodder club either, so as a player, if you happen to perform/do well there, it's not guaranteed they are going to sell you to a club with better trophy prospects, I mean Barca are struggling to get Coutinho, granted Liverpool are in a strong position in this case, but yeah, you're kinda just stuck there
You're not really likely to challenge for trophies, not consistently, or at least I just don't think they can keep up/fight for top rated talent like other clubs, but then they're stuck in that weird limbo where they are not exactly a fodder club either, so as a player, if you happen to perform/do well there, it's not guaranteed they are going to sell you to a club with better trophy prospects, I mean Barca are struggling to get Coutinho, granted Liverpool are in a strong position in this case, but yeah, you're kinda just stuck there
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