How did you get it so soon?
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Dunno. I got a text from my gp with a mobile number to ring and got the jab two days later. I don't have any health concerns aside from being fat, but hardly on deaths door.
Live in a fairly small town so maybe they are getting through the list.
Which jab did you get? It seems a quick turnaround assuming you’re in England.
Novavax P3 clinical trial - from the guinea-pig side.
It's now three months since I took Jab2 of whatever they jabbed me with (vaccine or placebo) and I had to go in for a routine checkup - blooodtests, any new possible side-effects and medical history/changes etc. We're still in the Sports Centre main gym, though today another bit of the Sports Centre was open and being used as a walk-in covid test centre, there was a queue outside that section.
I got invited for my NHS approved vaccine a week ago and the FOMO reaction is running high right now
Broadly speaking, I have two options:
1. Get unblinded - if I've had the Novavax, sit back and wait for its approval. If I've had the placebo, go and get my approved vaccine.
2. Stay in the trial on the promise of it becoming a crossover trial - placebo recipients get vaccine; vaccine recipients get placebo.
At the session today, they spoke to us in small (8 person, socially distanced, in front of a whiteboard) groups on arrival. The crossover should start "late March" and we should all have jab3 and 4 during April - the crossover should start as soon as they know the vaccine supply for the triallists has arrived in the UK. The MHRA release approval should come in April or maybe May. The organisers are looking nationally at a way to ensure triallists will not be put at a disadvantage by participating and that should include a way to give us crossover types vaccine passports etc.
The trouble is there are a lot of "shoulds" and "maybes" in that paragraph. I'm still in the trial but it's only a matter of time before my nerve cracks
It's now three months since I took Jab2 of whatever they jabbed me with (vaccine or placebo) and I had to go in for a routine checkup - blooodtests, any new possible side-effects and medical history/changes etc. We're still in the Sports Centre main gym, though today another bit of the Sports Centre was open and being used as a walk-in covid test centre, there was a queue outside that section.
I got invited for my NHS approved vaccine a week ago and the FOMO reaction is running high right now
Broadly speaking, I have two options:
1. Get unblinded - if I've had the Novavax, sit back and wait for its approval. If I've had the placebo, go and get my approved vaccine.
2. Stay in the trial on the promise of it becoming a crossover trial - placebo recipients get vaccine; vaccine recipients get placebo.
At the session today, they spoke to us in small (8 person, socially distanced, in front of a whiteboard) groups on arrival. The crossover should start "late March" and we should all have jab3 and 4 during April - the crossover should start as soon as they know the vaccine supply for the triallists has arrived in the UK. The MHRA release approval should come in April or maybe May. The organisers are looking nationally at a way to ensure triallists will not be put at a disadvantage by participating and that should include a way to give us crossover types vaccine passports etc.
The trouble is there are a lot of "shoulds" and "maybes" in that paragraph. I'm still in the trial but it's only a matter of time before my nerve cracks
It was the Oxford jab. Im not English
I was ill for a couple of days after the Oxford jab, too.
Only in vitro data but this is a massive relief all the same. Pfizer vaccine seems to work against Brazil (P1) variant.
NEJM article
EDIT: Reading the original research it looks as though they tested all the important variants and the South African variant is the only one with vaccine resistance. Which seems to be a consistent pattern in a few different studies. The good news is that in phase 3 trials (the gold standard) the J&J vaccine did work against that variant. Not as well as the others but well enough that it would have still been licensed even if that variant was dominant everywhere in the world.
NEJM article
EDIT: Reading the original research it looks as though they tested all the important variants and the South African variant is the only one with vaccine resistance. Which seems to be a consistent pattern in a few different studies. The good news is that in phase 3 trials (the gold standard) the J&J vaccine did work against that variant. Not as well as the others but well enough that it would have still been licensed even if that variant was dominant everywhere in the world.
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Ya, the SA variant is a really bad one.
I suppose the advantage is it seems that any vaccine that works against the SA variant will work against the others (the same if you caught the SA variant and survived). So an update to vaccines is clearly on the cards, but hopefully this strong variant came up relatively early in the pandemic and we are protected for a good while.
They've also tested convalescent blood from people who've recovered from the new strain. Their antibodies also neutralise the original, Brazil and UK variants. The implication may be that if vaccines get tweaked for the SA strain they'll be able to recover those super high efficacy rates we saw.
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Brazil or SA?
Oops - the SA strain!
My wife is going for her Astra Zeneca tomorrow in Blanchardstown Hospital in Dublin. She is working in dentistry.
She registered a couple of months ago through some HSE website and there was no response.
Someone else sent her this link -
https://www.swiftqueue.com/pre_time...UX3nCUg3LYkq..hJs0945j6eA90tZlLzVrAPc5j7wtU/a
I registered her there and there is hundreds of appointments available. She is going in the morning. I could have picked today if she had the the time to go up.
She registered a couple of months ago through some HSE website and there was no response.
Someone else sent her this link -
https://www.swiftqueue.com/pre_time...UX3nCUg3LYkq..hJs0945j6eA90tZlLzVrAPc5j7wtU/a
I registered her there and there is hundreds of appointments available. She is going in the morning. I could have picked today if she had the the time to go up.
Where I am we are getting the military now helping out with housebound patients, care home patients which has really been a big help, will help with 2nd doses as well
The vaccination numbers in the US are quite staggering; 2.9M people got the jab on Saturday. 2.4M on Sunday.
60M doses given out in total so far.
It’s a huge country (c330m) but still those numbers are a big improvement on the <1m daily numbers from early/mid January.
% wise it’s working that approx 18% have had at least one jab.
60M doses given out in total so far.
It’s a huge country (c330m) but still those numbers are a big improvement on the <1m daily numbers from early/mid January.
% wise it’s working that approx 18% have had at least one jab.
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On top of that, 9.5% are fully vaccinated - that’s pretty impressive considered the population size
Yes.
And then my wife tells me today that she’s scheduled tomorrow for the Moderna shot due to her job being essential (it wouldn’t fit my version of essential but good for her). I’ll drive her so maybe I can get one too
And then my wife tells me today that she’s scheduled tomorrow for the Moderna shot due to her job being essential (it wouldn’t fit my version of essential but good for her). I’ll drive her so maybe I can get one too
Any of the well informed Caf members have an opinion of the Sinovac? Our family in other parts of the world are getting it and from my own research, it seems like the phase 3 results were.. Patchy?
Bit concerned.
Bit concerned.
Could a normal person sneak in there? What’s a covax portal?
Amazing what you can do when the President tells you to crack on and do it
Indeed, if only we had that in Europe
That didn't sound right so I checked the link to the blog on the website and it says this "anyone who books to get the vaccine fraudulently will be turned away – full stop. Some people have used links shared with them to try and falsely get the Covid vaccine. If they book and attend the clinic to try and jump the queue and they do not have proof of eligibility and they will be turned away.”
https://blog.swiftqueue.com/stateme...es-regarding-queue-jumping-for-covid-vaccine/
Obviously they'll only turn away people who aren't yet eligible for the jab so it's fine if you are.
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She has to bring her dental registrar proof and ID plus PPS proof.
I'll tell you tomorrow how it is in reality .
My Mrs is legit.
Crazy, right.
Tbh I think my mental health would suffering big time if that orange fecker was still in the WH.
For people wondering why they got the appointment message despite being young and healthy - the algorithm did it. They set the defaults for "missing info" to higher risk:
For example, if a patient’s weight or ethnicity are not recorded on their health records, QCovid automatically ascribes them a BMI of 31 (obese) and the highest risk ethnicity (black African), meaning they are more likely to be invited for a vaccine.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...s-algorithm-as-young-people-called-in-for-jab
As the article says, no harm done for the individual (unless it triggers a health anxiety) because they just get the vaccine a few weeks earlier, but it does explain some of the anomalies that the fast rollout is seeing.
For example, if a patient’s weight or ethnicity are not recorded on their health records, QCovid automatically ascribes them a BMI of 31 (obese) and the highest risk ethnicity (black African), meaning they are more likely to be invited for a vaccine.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...s-algorithm-as-young-people-called-in-for-jab
As the article says, no harm done for the individual (unless it triggers a health anxiety) because they just get the vaccine a few weeks earlier, but it does explain some of the anomalies that the fast rollout is seeing.
Interesting, I'm pretty sure I fall under this bracket. I don't have any of the key issues of risk for covid, only one long term health condition (neurological) and I take a blue inhaler for EIB on rare occasions. I don't recall being weighed at the doctors in the last decade, and I'm down as a healthy BMI.
These vaccines are an insane privilege, my wife's grandmother passed away with covid a month or so ago (delay in her getting the vaccine due to being completely housebound with multiple comorbidities, we tried sourcing ambulances as she'd needed hoisting and stretches but were unable to get to her in time). My maternal grandmother in canada just passed away yesterday after fighting it too, apparently they've been quite slow there with the rollout.
Neither despite being what is portrayed regarding south asian/BAME were engaging in risky rule-breaking behaviours nor were their families, and neither were vaccine hesitant
Neither despite being what is portrayed regarding south asian/BAME were engaging in risky rule-breaking behaviours nor were their families, and neither were vaccine hesitant
just had my jab (AZ) yesterday, no side effects at all. i'm only 39 with no pre-existing health issues so think i may have some missing data too to have been called up so quickly.
Looks like the EU - UK vaccine wars have bubbled up again with some French politician accusing us of withholding vaccines to poorer nations.
my Mrs is back from her first AZ jab this morning.
Only obvious side effect is an extra tit but thats fine with me.
She said her ID and credentials were checked twice so its unlikely that there would be any way to sneak in.
She was impressed with the way it was being ran. Said it was very smooth
@golden_blunder @Balljy
Only obvious side effect is an extra tit but thats fine with me.
She said her ID and credentials were checked twice so its unlikely that there would be any way to sneak in.
She was impressed with the way it was being ran. Said it was very smooth
@golden_blunder @Balljy
Sorry to hear that.
It's been an awful year for so many families, and somehow it seems worse now that it feels like we have a chance of stopping most of the deaths.
As you say, the vaccines are a privilege. That they exist at all is an extraordinary testament to the researchers and clinicians. That they are starting to save lives is immense, but it's important to remember how many are still dying or becoming seriously ill - all over the world.
Denmark has suspended the AstraZeneca vaccine over blood clotting concerns.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/vide...e-suspended-in-denmark-on-clot-concerns-video
I'll quite happily say at this point if i have any kind of choice i wont be going for the AZ vaccine.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/vide...e-suspended-in-denmark-on-clot-concerns-video
I'll quite happily say at this point if i have any kind of choice i wont be going for the AZ vaccine.
"Denmark has suspended use of one batch of the AstraZeneca vaccine after a woman who received a dose died from blood clots.
Another person, who received a jab from the same batch ABV5300, was also hospitalised with clots.
EU regulator EMA says there is currently no indication that vaccination has caused these conditions, which are not listed as side effects with this vaccine.
EMA’s safety committee PRAC is investigating the cases reported with the batch as well as all other cases of thromboembolic events, and other conditions related to blood clots, reported post-vaccination.
The information available so far indicates that the number of thromboembolic events in vaccinated people is no higher than that seen in the general population.
As of 9 March 2021, 22 cases of thromboembolic events had been reported among the three million people vaccinated with AstraZeneca's vaccine in the European Economic Area."
Do we have any data on blood clots using Pfizer? I can understand with so many people getting the jab some people will die around the time they had it for a number reasons.
Another person, who received a jab from the same batch ABV5300, was also hospitalised with clots.
EU regulator EMA says there is currently no indication that vaccination has caused these conditions, which are not listed as side effects with this vaccine.
EMA’s safety committee PRAC is investigating the cases reported with the batch as well as all other cases of thromboembolic events, and other conditions related to blood clots, reported post-vaccination.
The information available so far indicates that the number of thromboembolic events in vaccinated people is no higher than that seen in the general population.
As of 9 March 2021, 22 cases of thromboembolic events had been reported among the three million people vaccinated with AstraZeneca's vaccine in the European Economic Area."
Do we have any data on blood clots using Pfizer? I can understand with so many people getting the jab some people will die around the time they had it for a number reasons.
Well feck... My mom took the Astra vaccine literally just a few minutes before these news rolled out
Hope it's not too serious.
Hope it's not too serious.
The PRAC are constantly reviewing safety of medicines. They did a major review of oral contraceptives in the last couple of years. This is fairly routine safety monitoring. The decision to pause roll-out in a few countries is probably erring on the side of caution, seeing as alternative vaccines are available. Let’s wait to see what they find before jumping to any conclusions.
22 thromboembolic events out of 3 million, mostly elderly people. I'd be optimistic that it's just a nasty coincidence. It'd be nice if these safety reviews didn't always get amplified into scare stories.
Of course there will be some serious side effects of some of these vaccines. They have all been developed and tested at warp speed. Normally vaccines like these take 10 years to get on the market. I would not be surprised if there were some more sideeffects further down the road as well. The swineflu vaccine had some serious sideeffects on some people. But the alternative is far worse than some sideeffects. I will still take my vaccine. There is a chance for car accidents and I can fall in the kitchen too, but I still make food and travel.
Am I being selfish, maybe inhuman, when I see countries (usually in Europe) politically using the Oxford vaccine as a means for Brit-bashing as an opportunity that there will be more AZ vaccines available for me quicker here in the UK?
I can't wait to be jabbed by one of these suckers this month. Though at my age group it might not be until late April. Despite seeing incredible drops in hospitalisation, deaths and new infections in the UK, Europe's only fascination seems to be with extreme and almost nonsensical concerns.