The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated


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Yup pretty much.

Full study regarding autopsy findings here
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971221003647#!

Old partially vaccinated man has narrow blood vessels, likely leads of ischaemic bowel disease, presents with diarrhoea. Goes to hospital, gets bacterial pneumonia with kidney and electrolyte problems. Tests positive for SARS-COV2, doesn't have any post-mortem signs of COVID-19 (the severe clinical manifestation of the virus) likely from protection partially. Sadly passes away.

Test finds viral RNA in 7 out of 9 organs. Some fringe anti-vax says that this is every organ when there are 78 organs in the human body. Says this is a sinister thing for some reason. Case control study as well, unclear if generalisable to wider population in terms of findings.

But most interesting is what authors had to say about their publication's misrepresentation (had to dig deep to find this)
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...ind-viral-RNA-in-every-organ-of-the-body.html

Great find. I didn't even have the patience to read thru the autopsy report.

Bunch of nonsense. Sigh.
 
Moderna. I'm up all night with the pain of it.

If there’s a genuine concern you should call your GP straight away.

Most people seem to get an aching arm but one of our work colleagues experienced such pain that she was off work for a couple of days.

Pain like hers could only have been caused by impaction or irritation of a nerve and it’s not unusual for the reaction for the vaccine to have an impact on any local nerves, in fact it’s a good sign although it may not feel like it :)

This link explains thing

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....arm-might-be-sore-after-getting-a-vaccine/amp

Still, if you’re genuinely concerned … GP.
 
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It's weird. Didn't feel it at all on day one.
I'll give it a few more hours to disappear before I call doctor
 
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If these don’t work, take a painkiller. Something like Brufen should take the edge off.
 
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As a GP, things to call your GPs about post-vaccination

-intense headache with nausea, vomiting, neck stiffness, visual changes.
-severe unable-to-get-out-of-bed type abdominal pain, unable to eat anything
-chest pain and/or shortness of breath
-leg pain with redness and swelling, tender to touch/move
-bleeding (e.g. from gums, back passage)
-tiny dot like spots in clusters called petechiae alongside other symptoms

Generalised aches and pain, lethargy, headache, arm ache in injection site is shit but does go away, usually in a day or so but load up on paracetamol/ibuprofen which will help things.

There was somebody here who mentioned unilateral knee pain which I would have yellow carded because that's not a common reaction, might have been unrelated issue like undiagnosed gout, arthritis or bursitis. In the UK you usually should usually get given a leaflet to take home end of the vaccination and an A4 piece of paper sometimes with common vaccine side effects, which are available on NHS websites anyway. Anything concerning then definitely get in touch. I've not come across a single consult where something major side-effect wise has happened as a result of vaccination which is good considering I do about 7 primary care sessions per week in a busy practice but it does happen.
 
Forgot to add if touching or moving your arm is painful you should stop touching or moving it.

Think that covers all the bases. And also explains why I would be a terrible GP.
I preferred my broken finger diagnosis (actually an old Tommy Cooper joke).

Talking of crap GPs, when I was a kid in the 1970's our GP, who was well on the way to 80, always gave the same diagnosis. "There is a lot of that going around, I've not sure what it is but I've had a touch myself, take two paracetamol and get some bed rest." I suspect he would have treated a road crash or cardiac arrest the same way.
 
Moderna. I'm up all night with the pain of it.
1st?
We had Moderna and for a few days our arm got progressively sorer. Kept me awake the first and part of the second night.
2nd shot I couldn’t feel it as much because we had all the other side effects.
Few days later all good
 
I preferred my broken finger diagnosis (actually an old Tommy Cooper joke).

Talking of crap GPs, when I was a kid in the 1970's our GP, who was well on the way to 80, always gave the same diagnosis. "There is a lot of that going around, I've not sure what it is but I've had a touch myself, take two paracetamol and get some bed rest." I suspect he would have treated a road crash or cardiac arrest the same way.

Being a GP is tough. 95% of the stuff you see is utterly trivial. The real skill is in consistently picking up the 5% that matters but I always found the most difficult part was pretending to give a shit about the 95%.
 
Being a GP is tough. 95% of the stuff you see is utterly trivial. The real skill is in consistently picking up the 5% that matters but I always found the most difficult part was pretending to give a shit about the 95%.

I can imagine. All that training and dedication then all you see is haemorrhoids and skin rashes.

I was offered a postgraduate place at med school when I was in my 40s but I turned it down as I couldn't see myself being without income for so long or working as a GP and I was too old to think about adding multiple more years to be a specialist or similar.
 
1st?
We had Moderna and for a few days our arm got progressively sorer. Kept me awake the first and part of the second night.
2nd shot I couldn’t feel it as much because we had all the other side effects.
Few days later all good

thats reassuring.
 
thats reassuring.

Dickhead comments from me above aside, it’s very normal to have a sore shoulder after the jab. And also normal for it to take a day or two to kick in fully. And some people will experience more pain than others. All you can do is take a load of painkillers and sweat it out. Should ease off over the next 24 hours.
 
Dickhead comments from me above aside, it’s very normal to have a sore shoulder after the jab. And also normal for it to take a day or two to kick in fully. And some people will experience more pain than others. All you can do is take a load of painkillers and sweat it out. Should ease off over the next 24 hours.
Is some excercise okay with a sore arm? Or will it worsen the soreness? Had my shot on sunday, arm is still slightly sore but got significantly better since sunday evening.
 
Is some excercise okay with a sore arm? Or will it worsen the soreness? Had my shot on sunday, arm is still slightly sore but got significantly better since sunday evening.
I remember reading somewhere that it's probably better to not exercise for the few days following the jab. Don't worry, you won't lose those gainz.
 
Read somewhere that you should not take too much analgesics for the muscular pains because it might interfere with antibody production. Not sure whether that makes sense.
 
Dickhead comments from me above aside, it’s very normal to have a sore shoulder after the jab. And also normal for it to take a day or two to kick in fully. And some people will experience more pain than others. All you can do is take a load of painkillers and sweat it out. Should ease off over the next 24 hours.

Cheers Pogue. My side effects seem to have been a delayed reaction. I thought I was the cheese on Sunday.
Now me arm is in a bundle and Im freezing!!! Lower legs feel achy etc.
Damn it :nervous: :wenger:
 
Read somewhere that you should not take too much analgesics for the muscular pains because it might interfere with antibody production. Not sure whether that makes sense.

No it doesn't make sense. Analgesics are fine. Anti-inflammatory is also fine

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html

Tbh I'm even surprised they advise not to take them before the shot. Apparently been shown to impact antibody production. Need to look at the data for that.
 
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As a GP, things to call your GPs about post-vaccination

-intense headache with nausea, vomiting, neck stiffness, visual changes.
-severe unable-to-get-out-of-bed type abdominal pain, unable to eat anything
-chest pain and/or shortness of breath
-leg pain with redness and swelling, tender to touch/move
-bleeding (e.g. from gums, back passage)
-tiny dot like spots in clusters called petechiae alongside other symptoms

Generalised aches and pain, lethargy, headache, arm ache in injection site is shit but does go away, usually in a day or so but load up on paracetamol/ibuprofen which will help things.

There was somebody here who mentioned unilateral knee pain which I would have yellow carded because that's not a common reaction, might have been unrelated issue like undiagnosed gout, arthritis or bursitis. In the UK you usually should usually get given a leaflet to take home end of the vaccination and an A4 piece of paper sometimes with common vaccine side effects, which are available on NHS websites anyway. Anything concerning then definitely get in touch. I've not come across a single consult where something major side-effect wise has happened as a result of vaccination which is good considering I do about 7 primary care sessions per week in a busy practice but it does happen.

Ended up in A&E last Friday, day 6 after my second dose of AZ.

After nearly collapsing at my PC during work, I've had tension headaches, dizziness, nausea, chest pain, shortness of breath, leg pain, general lethargy and the raging sh*ts.

Had 3 ECGs, bloods taken and standing/resting BP measured several times. BP was elevated but ECGs and bloods all normal. Also tested negative for covid. Day 10 now and still no better. Hope this doesn't go on too much longer.
 
Just had my second az. Came to post and seen the post above mine, made me feel great now :lol:

hope you get over it soon @Edgio
 
Getting my Pfizer vaccine next Wednesday. Not sure I'm ready for making small talk with a stranger.
Turn up with both your arms wrapped in foil with a five pence size hole cut in one for the jab for a laugh.
 
Fauci seemed to be implying in his interview that the US aren't having as much of a problem with the delta variant as the UK because they've relied so heavily on the mRNA vaccines which are very effective against it. Anyone know if they much more effective than AZ after one dose? It could just be that the two doses are administered within a much shorter window. Either way, it seemed to reiterate some of the risks of the UK's vaccination strategy. The calculations look to have paid off but if the delta variant seeded a month earlier it could've been a huge concern!
 
Had my second Moderna yesterday. Completely fine after the first. Up in the night with chills and feel horrendous this morning. Hopefully It'll pass in the next 24 hours
 
Fauci seemed to be implying in his interview that the US aren't having as much of a problem with the delta variant as the UK because they've relied so heavily on the mRNA vaccines which are very effective against it. Anyone know if they much more effective than AZ after one dose? It could just be that the two doses are administered within a much shorter window. Either way, it seemed to reiterate some of the risks of the UK's vaccination strategy. The calculations look to have paid off but if the delta variant seeded a month earlier it could've been a huge concern!
AZ doesn't seem to be great against variants, so he may have a point. I hope he isn't counting his chickens before they hatch though, because we've seen how this thing can spiral out of nowhere.