My mum has to travel to the US in October. She has been vaccinated with AZ. Will that be a problem?
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I doubt it will be an issue. I thought it was already approved in the USA now - just they don't use it because of the abundance of Moderna and Pfizer
I agree that for most of the world taking AZ today is statistically a lot safer than waiting a month or more for an alternative, and massively safer than not taking a vaccine at all. But that's a straight statistical calculation, combining age, covid case rate where you live and vaccine risk. If you do have the luxury of choosing a vaccine, then it's reasonable to make a choice.
The particular type of clotting issue that has worried people with AZ is an unusual combination of thrombosis with low platelets.
It's currently being seen at a level of around 1:75,000 AZ vaccinated people in the UK. As you say, the death rates fall if doctors recognise the symptoms and are able to give the right specialist treatment. Even so, the risk is running higher than 1:1m in the UK and probably closer to 1:300k.
In addition to what @jojojo said about incidence/fatality of clots after getting the AZ vaccine there’s absolutely no chance those stats about clots with covid are correct.
Although I do agree with the more general point that if covid rates are very high where you live and the choice is AZ now or a different vaccine several months later then your best bet is AZ now.
Initially I was quite hesitant about the vaccine 6/7 months ago and now the vaccine is available for my age group today. I'm currently in an online queue ready to book myself an appointment.
That's great. Hopefully you get through the queue soon enough.
I think we've all seen a lot in the past few months. After a miserable winter we know that covid won't just go away - and that trying to control it with lockdowns and overloaded hospitals is painful. Meanwhile we've seen tens of millions (hundreds of millions globally) of people get the vaccines and can see that the vaccines are doing what we hoped they would.
Had my first shot of Moderna on Sunday, only side effect so far is a sore arm where I was jabbed. I think I was slightly more fatigued than usual on Sunday evening but not overly so.
Is it right that the second shot is where some people seem to get flu-like symptoms?
Is it right that the second shot is where some people seem to get flu-like symptoms?
Great. Thanks
The site crashed the first time but I'm through on my second attempt and the locations aren't ideal for me unfortunately, so I'll just keep trying back until somewhere more accessible is available.
Hard to be exact because the Feds won't tell us how much Pfhizer vs AZ we have administered but we have only had 1 clotting fatality with between 3 and 4 million AZ shots given.
My point is just that any significant delay between when you could have got AZ and when you get Pfizer, in a country with significant covid infections, is a poor choice as you are significantly increase your risk of serious illness and death.
A bit more common
Exactly how it went for us on the 2nd Moderna. It’ll get progressively better after a day of that
@RoyH1
Yes. First shot was sore arm
Second shot all hell broke loose the night of the shot. A day later and it starts to get better. You’ll be grand
Fecking depressing to see how easy it would have been to achieve herd immunity with “original covid”. Probably be there already in the UK. Closing in fast throughout most of the EU. Instead we’re seriously considering vaccinating children to try and get on top of this damn thing. FFS.
We're now well into our third wave here in South Africa. Hospitals starting to fill up. I've heard of quite a few people (around 25) who have caught Covid after having J&J or Pfizer (only one shot).Out of about 25 people, only one has been hospitalized as a precaution (most people were asymptomatic and tested because they came into contact with someone who was Covid positive, or very mild symptoms). Also, this person is 70+, multiple co-morbidities, several allergies and in and out of hospital in normal times anyway.
Given the prevalence of the SA variant (or Beta now I think?), this is the best outcome we could've wished for IMO. It's all anecdotal of course, but nevertheless it gives me confidence that the variants will not cause a complete collapse.
Given the prevalence of the SA variant (or Beta now I think?), this is the best outcome we could've wished for IMO. It's all anecdotal of course, but nevertheless it gives me confidence that the variants will not cause a complete collapse.
Frustrating news related to the logistics of the vaccine rollout in Europe - according to the Italian data privacy office, the EU privacy legislation means employers cannot ask employees to show their vaccination status and it cant be used as a condition of entry to the workplace.
Thanks for the tip.
I got my first shot Sunday evening and sure enough I had “Moderna arm” all of yesterday and a spot of tiredness but one ibuprofen and I woke up much better today.
Felt better after a day, took paracetamol at night and one in morning, temperature went away slowly. Back to normal again...
Still no idea why my back hurt like hell ...That by the way is better too now.
Both my wife and I had the temperature; extreme tiredness (could hardly keep my eyes open), I didn’t have sore back but got sore sides, staggering, overall feeling of having a bad cold/flu. Gone after a couple of days for us, though temperature cleared up in a day
We could easily have achieved herd immunity without Andrew Wakefield to be fair, new variant or not.
The vast majority of people are convinced there is nothing to worry about with regards to these vaccines. Can I ask what is it that convinced you and do you ever consider the consequences if you are wrong?
The vast majority of people trust that the scientists are correct when they determined that the vaccines are much much safer than letting the virus continue to spread.
So many people have had them now that even if in the make believe conspiracy world drastically everyone died then its hardly worth worrying about because we are all fecked
Vaccines throughout history have eradicated diseases. There is literally an ocean of scientific proof that they work. What would not convince me? Some bullshit 'article' on Facebook?
Had my first dose of Pfizer yesterday. Arm is a bit sore but nothing else.
Everytime I take a paracetamol because of a really high temperature, or painful joints, I pray. Pray Hard. That I wake up alive next day and without blood clots.
The things that can go wrong in the human body with such a dangerous drug is best left ignored for your own peace of mind.
Why do I take it? Have I considered the consequences? I take it because I need it. Really, really need it. The consequences are worth the risk because so many other people have taken it that I think I'll be alive the following morning. But I pray.
In the long run might it prove a good thing the population has been exposed to so many variants?
Finally booked my jab. I’m in Islington and my 2nd jab is in decking Wimbledon, an hour and 10 minutes away.
FFS, how can they not have any 2nd jabs in central london
FFS, how can they not have any 2nd jabs in central london
I get mine today finally! Got to go after work though.
Moderna dose 1 done and got the EU Green Pass certificate. No side effects so far, i know that's not a prerequisite to show your immune system is doing it's thing but it would be nice to have a mild headache or something.
For those in the UK I understand if you're under 40 you can request an alternative to AZ, is this done on the day as there is no option to choose when booking.
Is it just random what vaccine you get depending on what they have at the centre?
Is it just random what vaccine you get depending on what they have at the centre?
If your under 40 you are only given the option to book places where it isn't AZ you get no choice between pfizer or moderna its just one of the two.
Thanks, that's a relief, was the only thing I was worried about. Booked in for first dose on 26th.
Is there much difference between moderna & pfizer? Is one preffered over the other for any good reason?
Both the exact same type of vaccine I believe mRNA very similar
I have now joined the Pfizer gang.
Just got my first jab (Pfizer). Put myself on the Qvax list at noon (basically a reserve list for when there are vaccines left at the end of the day), got a message at 8pm, vaccinated at 9pm. Less than 5' between entry in the center and the jab itself, had to wait 15' afterwards to be observed and then ready to go home. Super organized, really glad I've had it now. July 14th for the second one.
Definitely got a bit of a sore arm but nothing else so far.
I hope you get the same fatigue as I got. It was genuinely glorious, I had some really memorable naps over that weekend.