It does sound like bollocks alright. The 250k shipment that was blocked was confirmed by the EU. Nobody has confirmed anything on the scale claimed by Australia. Much more likely they’re experiencing the same AZ under-delivery disappointment everyone else has been going through.
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It does sound like bollocks alright. The 250k shipment that was blocked was confirmed by the EU. Nobody has confirmed anything on the scale claimed by Australia. Much more likely they’re experiencing the same AZ under-delivery disappointment everyone else has been going through.
On a more positive note, looks like the US are finally shipping some of those AZ doses overseas.
Selfishly the US, which always looks out for its interests over others, will want to continue it’s vaccination program to quash the virus domestically before it commits to sending any large amounts of vaccines overseas.
To think that they’d do otherwise is naive.
To think that other countries, that don’t need the money as much, would do differently is also naive.
To think that they’d do otherwise is naive.
To think that other countries, that don’t need the money as much, would do differently is also naive.
Good luck Geebs.
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I think in hindsight with the situation in India as it is now you would say that UK could have helped out more but the fact is that till a month back no one including the Indian government saw it coming . UK also had a very high level of infection and had 3+ months of lockdown. Currently UK is vaccinating 45+ people despite increasing the gap between doses so I am not sure the government could have gotten away with exporting doses whilst it's own population was in lockdown
I think the US will see the geopolitical consequences of this in years to come . In many Latin American countries it has not gone unnoticed that the first shipments to arrive in their country had a Russian or a Chinese flag on them. Not saying that it will be dramatic, but American diplomats are going to have to work overtime.
Let's see if the US releasing Astra can redress this.
Let's see if the US releasing Astra can redress this.
When you think about the numbers involved, the UK couldn’t have done much to change the outcome in India. Even exporting every vaccine made in the UK would barely make a dent in one billion people. Which isn’t to say that more exports from the Uk (and especially the US) wouldn’t have helped at all. It just wouldn’t have prevented the current apocalypse.
It's also about Logistics. We (India) could have done better job vaccinating our population but there is a limit that we can vaccinate in a certain period of time. India administered 130 m jabs which isn't low but considering our population it's just about 10%.
We need raw materials to make vaccine and our foreign minister mentioned that he can't ask for raw materials and stop vaccine export. That would be unethical. Instead of hoarding vaccine, I am glad it was used by other countries so that atleast it saved some people and some of these countries would struggle to get vaccine in open market right now. Because I don't think we would have able to fully use it anyway. This hurts a lot because we have lost so many and hopefully we bring this under control sooner rather than later.
We need raw materials to make vaccine and our foreign minister mentioned that he can't ask for raw materials and stop vaccine export. That would be unethical. Instead of hoarding vaccine, I am glad it was used by other countries so that atleast it saved some people and some of these countries would struggle to get vaccine in open market right now. Because I don't think we would have able to fully use it anyway. This hurts a lot because we have lost so many and hopefully we bring this under control sooner rather than later.
Had a bad night.
Woke up ay 3.30am with slight fever, arm hurting and took 2 pills.
This morning i've got slight fever too.
Doc told me to keep taking the pills for today.
Woke up ay 3.30am with slight fever, arm hurting and took 2 pills.
This morning i've got slight fever too.
Doc told me to keep taking the pills for today.
#scottyfrommarketing was trying to pretend that 250k AZ not being delivered was the reason they missed their 4 million vaccination target for the end of March by 3.3 million.
Even if you avoid the fact that 250k is far less than 3.3 million it is a bit irrelevant as we didn't even mange to give out all of the few shots we did have anyway due to piss poor planning.
We are now (or very soon going to be) producing 1 million AZ shots domestically every week so with only the over 50's to vaccinate and with the clotting scare and our government's incompetence increasing vaccine hesitancy in the over 50's I'm not sure we will need that many ourselves for very long. So hopefully we will start exporting to other places who are in trouble like India or PNG.
That's very common. Reacts stronger in younger people, so lucky you
, or those that had covid asymptomatically before. You should be fine by this evening.Thanks doc.That's very common. Reacts stronger in younger people, so lucky you
I sure hope so.
I also heard though don’t know how true is that it reacts more in females than malesThat's very common. Reacts stronger in younger people, so lucky you
Not good news on Sputnik - big issues with their trial data.
Interesting that even with the pandemic in full bloom, Brasil's regulator has issues with Sputnik. Have the countries that approved it really done their homework with the paperwork?
Wife and I both had our first Pfizer jabs this morning, crossing fingers for no adverse effects.
Second jabs booked for 7th June.
Second jabs booked for 7th June.
Turns out having a minor stomach bug and then three days later having the vaccine isn't a great combination. Now have full on gastroenteritis since Friday night. Feeling pretty rough. Still glad to have had the vaccine in an odd way
Indeed. People forget that between democracies, diplomacy is often your interactions with the other country's political system. So in Latin American countries there are already many parties that are ideologically unfriendly towards the US. In internal deliberations in the future about partnering more with the US vs China, those who ideologically might be more inclined to favor the US can't do anything to counter the argument that the US proved an unreliable partner during this search for vaccines, while China was actually reliable. I definitely think that holding onto the AZ vaccine stockpile for so long was a mistake.
The regulator was even hesitant to approve Sinovac (called Coronavac in Br) back in January iirc, but that was more related to the low efficacy observed (50% against any infection at all, but 100% against severe cases). At the time though, if they'd rejected the vaccine it would have been a death sentence for Brazil's only vaccine production line already set-up and producing that vaccine, and would likely have left the country with no vaccines for another 2 months.
Right now the situation is not as tight as far as production, with Coronavac still being produced and also another firm producing licensed AZ vaccine that will make up most of the numbers through about September. Then there's a contract to receive significant numbers of Pfizer vaccines through the end of the year and into next.
Wow. The published data did almost seem too good to be true. If they’ve falsified those results this might be the most heinous crime of the Putin era (which is quite an achievement)
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Fecking hell.
That's disappointing. That means all the adenovirus based vaccines are now showing manufacturing issues. Ramp-up issues on AZ and J&J (which I guess might include batch rejection due to QC issues) and now Sputnik batches being seen with replicating adenovirus.
We already knew that we didn't have mass rollout data on Sputnik - unlike the AZ and J&J - but their interim phase 3 report did look sound - it's worrying that Brazil found so many flaws in the finished version. Albeit the trial data was working with small case numbers, and just in a Russian trial group. As for other regulators, a lot will have relied on the Russian approvals and the manufacturer's own QC batch testing.
That would be pretty diabolical and would dwarf the state sponsored Olympic doping scandal.
I've just come across another piece on Sputnik, apparently Slovakia rejected their shipments this month. According to their regulator the product supplied was not the product tested in that phase 3 report - which is a very disturbing development. It could mean that the manufacturing ramp-up has failed and they're shipping anyway.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/world/europe/slovakia-coronavirus-russia-vaccine-sputnik.html
I guess we can only hope that these are either false alarms (or even politically motivated rejections as the Russian authorities say) or it's something that really is batch specific.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/world/europe/slovakia-coronavirus-russia-vaccine-sputnik.html
I guess we can only hope that these are either false alarms (or even politically motivated rejections as the Russian authorities say) or it's something that really is batch specific.
The Russian response - “Fake news!” - is so depressing.
So they're not mixing vaccines yet in the UK it seems
JAB BLUNDER
Hospital accidentally gives woman wrong second Covid vaccine in first error of its kind in Britain
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14776246/hospital-gives-woman-wrong-jab-accident/
JAB BLUNDER
Hospital accidentally gives woman wrong second Covid vaccine in first error of its kind in Britain
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14776246/hospital-gives-woman-wrong-jab-accident/
Yeah...that’s definitely not the first error of its kind. The first error the Sun have found out about maybe!
There are clinical trials of vaccine mixing underway, so she's definitely not the first one to get the combination. She might be the first one where it wasn't done deliberately though.
I'd thought there was a lot of speculation early on that mixing the vaccines would be good, but maybe it was just paper talk. I had a by the sounds of it misguided hope that getting a Pfizer second jab would improve the protection I had from the AZ first dose.
I was only talking to my neighbour yesterday (as I had my vaccine today), he had his first AZ vaccine and then a few weeks later had a letter from a different hospital (to do with his cancer treatment) inviting him for a Pfizer vaccine, he had to call and explain. I thought it was pretty bad at the time and thought then there was a chance people could get both. Bit different to this case going by just the headline.
Here they're recalling people exactly 3 weeks after the first Pfizer jab, going by oates's experience. Mind you, it's why things are taking so long in Italy - they are making sure that people get their second vaccinations, rather than giving one jab to more people.
I'm not sure if it's the right approach, in general. It seems to me that it's better to give more people some protection.
So I am reading that SPUTNIK is one of the rare efficient against the India strain and in general against mutations.
Congratulations. Hope it works out well!
Don't forget it's dangerous to have sex in between the first and second jabs.
Ah don’t worry we don’t do that anymore
My GP called me today to offer the vaccine on Friday. But I’m already getting it via the hospital on Thursday, and my wife tomorrow. Like bloody busses
Originally the gap was four weeks but the french government wanted to give more people their first jabs so extended it by two weeks. I booked both first and second jabs for me and the wife online last week and they re-confirmed our second jabs today.
We had the choice of Pfizer or Moderna at the vaccination centres, although they are low on Moderna doses at present or we could choose between the AZ or the JJ which is now slowly being rolled out at our doctors or at the pharmacy.
After a slow start things are progressing well here.
Another one for the enthusiasts. I've been grubbing around for more background on how the mRNA vaccines are made - in particular an explanation of the short production time of the mRNA element itself and the role of the specialised lipids suppliers. Just a nice article to give you a sense of what a vaccine needs to do to increase production.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/02/myths-of-vaccine-manufacturing
In fact there are a whole bunch of vaccine related interesting articles on that blog, if you're willing to dig - if you like that sort of thing
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/02/myths-of-vaccine-manufacturing
In fact there are a whole bunch of vaccine related interesting articles on that blog, if you're willing to dig - if you like that sort of thing
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/
Another one for the enthusiasts. I've been grubbing around for more background on how the mRNA vaccines are made - in particular an explanation of the short production time of the mRNA element itself and the role of the specialised lipids suppliers. Just a nice article to give you a sense of what a vaccine needs to do to increase production.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/02/myths-of-vaccine-manufacturing
In fact there are a whole bunch of vaccine related interesting articles on that blog, if your willing to dig - if you like that sort of thing
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/
That’s a great read. Dumbed down just the right amount. The technology really is mind-blowing.
Yes, France seems to be winning as far as European countries are concerned. In Italy, they're having to shut-down some vaccination centres at the moment because they've run out of vaccines. People all over the country have been turning up for appointments and finding places unstaffed and closed.
It's been availability that's been the main problem here, together with many people getting vaccinated when they weren't entitled to have it at the start of the roll-out. That was due to the government prioritising by occupational groups in the early days, which were too broad in definition and were also easy to scam. Evidently 3.1 million people got vaccinated on the basis of being health workers! Anything that's not based on your date of birth is open to cheating, really.
They've now largely reverted to an age-based plan, although oates and I are in two smaller priority groups because of his health issues and the fact that I live with him. I registered over a week ago on the day my group was open for bookings in our region, but I've not heard anything yet. I'll be 63 next week and I wouldn't be eligible yet based just on my age.
https://www.agglomerations.tech/how-the-us-can-solve-the-global-vaccine-shortfall/
This on the vaccine IP issue is a great read.
This on the vaccine IP issue is a great read.
There are 5 million doses coming between now and 5th May.
We don't seem to be having those problems here. There is capacity to give more vaccines but we are still managing the government's target of 70-100k per day. The only issue is they are stopping new AZ doses until at least May 19.
I expect the more populous (and influential) north of the country got some priority. I hope we start getting a regular supply to every region soon, the vaccination plan is at different stages depending on where you live.