The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll
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Sweet Jesus. My wife is getting her first on Wednesday morning and I’m getting my first on Thursday morning! Got our texts earlier, I could almost cry
Awww ffs!
about time!
Delighted for you!
Such a relief even with all the shitty findings going on with vaccines. Honestly i feel like crying after more than a year cocooning.
Ironically i have to go into the hospital now for a fitting a 72hr heart monitor, christ on a bike
Personally, I wouldn't worry about this. Its seems incredibly rare.
So am I
ah those things are dull, feel like the bionic man all wired up, always find my heart is perfectly behaved when I have one on too
I’m the same. Typicalah those things are dull, feel like the bionic man all wired up, always find my heart is perfectly behaved when I have one on too
Congrats, about time!
Do you know which one you're getting? Also, have you thought about how your behaviour will change (if at all)?
Congratulations
Congrats - been seeing your posts here waiting for them, so it's nice
Thanks lads, I’ll feel better in myself knowing we’ve had the first one. Cocooning for a year is a joy
I’m not sure but I’m going to guess Pfizer because I’m under 60.
I don’t think our behaviour will change that much in the short term, though once fully vaccinated we can at least visit home (once Ireland allows it)
Ya that makes sense. I personally don't think I'll be comfortable to go back to fully normal until there is some form of herd immunity (I'm only expecting my vaccine at the end of the year though, so a lot can happen between now and then!).
Congrats. Definitely the best thing you'll do all year.
Great news for you. x
Five days after first Pfizer shot now, I only had a sore arm for first two days, nothing else. People say second shot can be worse so we shall see.
Had my second Moderna shot this morning.
Now feeling fatigued and febrile.
Let's see how the night will be.
Now feeling fatigued and febrile.
Let's see how the night will be.
Good luck!
I know AZ was a not for profit vaccine but does anyone know what is the situation with regards to countries like India producing it . What's the sort of financial agreement but AZ and the company they have licensed to in India
You'll be fine. Good luck.
Grim
Who’s funding the vaccine creation? UK and US. People in India/ China aren’t working for free dude.
You can fund vaccine creation and still sponsor a more equitable distribution. The two things are not mutually exclusive.
Not just Uk/US. The EU, China and Russia have all invested a lot of money in vaccine research too.
It's a difficult one when you look at death rates/million - the UK and US had more or less the worst big country stats in the world. The vaccines dug them out of a hole and it wasn't until the daily deaths started falling that it became more like greed than need - really only this past month or so.
China had such low infection rates that exports were available as a political tool and they didn't seem to be a sacrifice, just another item they could sell.
India is the one in the toughest situation. I knew that a lot of their AZ production was already pre-sold to GAVI/Covax. I hadn't realised that they were also being used as a backup for the UK - that horrified me really. A sign of how confident the Indian government was feeling perhaps? The same confidence that let political rallies and mass festivals restart.
I'm expecting (hoping?) that the US are about to become a massive exporter. They're so close now to being able to offer the vaccine to everyone that the change should happen within weeks. It needs to.
China had such low infection rates that exports were available as a political tool and they didn't seem to be a sacrifice, just another item they could sell.
India is the one in the toughest situation. I knew that a lot of their AZ production was already pre-sold to GAVI/Covax. I hadn't realised that they were also being used as a backup for the UK - that horrified me really. A sign of how confident the Indian government was feeling perhaps? The same confidence that let political rallies and mass festivals restart.
I'm expecting (hoping?) that the US are about to become a massive exporter. They're so close now to being able to offer the vaccine to everyone that the change should happen within weeks. It needs to.
I think there is some confusion between what governments do and what companies do. The Indian government did not decide to manufacture vaccines and export them in a fit of misguided altruism, other governments ordered and paid for the production of vaccines from companies that happen to be in India, or indeed in the EU. Those Indian and European manufacturers weren't coerced into doing business, it was what they wanted. I suggest it would not have been beyond the the Indian government to order more themselves, and reduce defence expenditure, increase taxes on their large (in numbers) middle class, or borrow; not to do so was a political decision by themselves. The EU could certainly have ordered sooner, again that's down to their own governments.
I know the US has banned exports of course, but the UK hasn't as far as I am aware, although they were accused of it at one point.
I know the US has banned exports of course, but the UK hasn't as far as I am aware, although they were accused of it at one point.
Wouldn't this simply be down to the fact that spare the first couple of months of the pandemic, COVID hasn't hit China as hard as the other nations, which would allow them to export some of their vaccine stockpile ?
There’s no way of dressing up how The UK & US have acted with regards to this.
They’ve been shamed by India, The EU and China.
Shamed in what sense ? Not exporting vaccines before fully vaccinating their own populations ? That sounds like a rational thing most countries would do.
Isn't that because we approved and used the vaccine almost 2 months before Europe did?
Yet most countries didn’t. Only two did.
The US approach has been the worst of the two. They’ve even restricted export of raw materials and equipment needed to manufacture vaccines, slowing down manufacturing in other territories.
Plus sat on hundreds of millions of doses of AZ vaccine for months while they waited for additional trials to be completed. Could have made a huge difference to countries like Brazil and India (or Canada) if they had allowed those reserves leave their country. Instead they’re vaccinating 20 year olds while bodies are being burned in mass graves in India.
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Hang on. Once India got into the same position the U.K. were in around January/February they stopped the exports.
India was/is much deeper in the shit than the Uk ever was. The EU would be a fairer comparison and has kept exporting throughout a comparable surge.
Nonsense
The U.K. was heavily in the shit. They had a newly identified highly virulent strain spreading like wildfire. It’s been 4.5 months of hard lockdown AND a huge vaccination push to get out. At the peak we had 60k cases per day - by my dodgy maths that’s the population equivalent of over 1m new cases per day in India. And I thought the EU blocked millions of exports to Australia recently!? Rightly in my opinion but they still did it.
Italy blocked a single shipment of 250k doses of the AZ vaccine en route to Australia (for reasons I’ve never fully understood?) A drop in the ocean compared to the total EU exports worldwide of >60 million doses and counting.
Re the UK being “in the shit”. That certainly doesn’t describe the situation of the last couple of months. As far as I know their exports to date remains zero doses (although maybe they’ve finally sent some to India?)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-australia-blocked-astrazeneca-b1827309.html
Australia say they’ve blocked millions. May be bollocks to detract from their own slow rollout.