Fake tan now compulsory
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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Real tan to be deported.
Seems people who fought to become American and their next generations getting tired to be viewed as they just crossed the border via some underground tunnel.
That's what we called rubber clauses here in Indonesia. Basically the government can make one person life difficult if they wanted to for whatever reason. Be it treason, or suspicion of terrorism and sent to Guantanamo without trial by patriot act.
The tools is always there, but to think that the US government would use that law to send waves of people out is unthinkable.
Just like the Democrats by law can shoot down J6 intruder, but no sane goverment will do that. To do that successfully you'll need more than presidency. You need 70% of American to become crazy enough to follow that order, and even the 30% will mount resistance
Tldr not gonna happen en masse, i hope. I honestly see no logical and logistic means to pull that, even for the vilest of the Republican. And why would they do that? They have the senate, the house the presidency, i see no logical reason to pursue that avenue. Trump for all his fault is very predictable, he wants fame and glory, he don't believe in extreme ideologies like Hitler or Stalin. He'll only do it if it benefits him
And if that day ever comes, Trump is the least of the problem, 70% of America is the biggest problem
Real tan suit, too.
Isn’t it Trump / his judges who enacted that law? I would have refused to vote him on that basis alone.
its a true shame that it is these people you suggest and not the 1.7 million known gotaways that face deportation.
I wonder how many unknown gotaways might also evade the mass deportation
WTF
Or actually - why am I even surprised. That's exactly the type of person and the type of rhetoric Trump surrounds himself with and that's what so many of my lovely fellow countrymen voted for. Hope they're proud of themselves for that and much much more of that if the previous term was any indication.
Same guy btw who says he wants to drag dead Democrat bodies through the streets
A lot of people will probably have similar clarity moments on the bus drive south.
Racist against Vietnamese tsk tsk
People thought he'd do that because Trump actually went to some of these places where there's anger over Gaza and anger over the administration, and lied to them. And when people are desperate they are primed to believe in lies.
Who is at fault for that anger and desperation? We all know.
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Part of me wants to say: I can only hope.
Also the tweet about his Ukraine ultimatum/solution: that's about exactly the route I expected him to take it so I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.
It's very easy to end a war temporarily if you give the attacker what they want with no guarantees. Putin just repeats the cycle of rebuilding the army and attacking Ukraine again to get Kiev, this time from an even more advantageous position. Great plan - but then Trump won't be in office anymore (hopefully), so who cares?!
Honestly, people should be smarter than this. He literally said that the biggest issue with Gaza is that Palestinians have mismanaged the best waterfront property in the world.
Why would anyone in their right mind think this man is in any way beneficial for Palestinians?
Before the hysterics start over what he might do, can we wait until he actually does something?
As someone pointed out the other night, for all his bluster you often find out that he either doesn't follow through or doesn't go as far as his opponents. Case in point, deportation numbers under Trump v Biden and Obama.
Also, people in his camp making wild claims or threats. There's a discussion on the damage AOC does to the Dems for some of her comments which people are quick to down play, so maybe apply the same to the crazies in Trumps camp?
As someone pointed out the other night, for all his bluster you often find out that he either doesn't follow through or doesn't go as far as his opponents. Case in point, deportation numbers under Trump v Biden and Obama.
Also, people in his camp making wild claims or threats. There's a discussion on the damage AOC does to the Dems for some of her comments which people are quick to down play, so maybe apply the same to the crazies in Trumps camp?
Let him build a resort and golf course on the beach front and he might?
Not a serious suggestion btw. Just incase anyone takes it the wrong way.
Perhaps, but if part of the arrangement is indeed to prevent them from joining NATO for the next 20 years then we ll be in the same predicament long after he s gone.
You honestly equate your boogieman AOC to all the terrible things Trump and co have in fact actually done and say? Tell me more about AOCs mythical powers.
You do realize Trump and Co actually did a lot of damage DESPITE the opposition right? Which btw is the important pt here: he will have way less opposition to do the things he ll want to do this time. It wasn't that Trump didnt do certain things - he tried and fortunately was able to be stopped in certain cases but how is that possibly a justification for saying let's wait and see ? It's akin to putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes and pretending everything s gonna be a-ok.
He'll fill the government with some real vile sociopaths this time. Gonna be a brutal four years.
Curious how the costs of living narrative will flow from here. Inflation has declined but the cumulative high inflation over a longer period hurt people's pockets. For prices to come down significantly, you would need...deflation?
Trump said he'll "fix" it. If he can't, will voters vote out the Republicans in 2028?
Trump said he'll "fix" it. If he can't, will voters vote out the Republicans in 2028?
Not equating anything. AOC was just an example due to her being discussed in the other thread. Like I said though, quite often what Trump or his cronies say doesn't translate into action as the deportation figures demonstrate.
Deflation is bad for economy though.
The solution will of course be to improve wages. If wages increase, then the inflation can be kept at 2% while people's lives improve. Will he be able to improve the economy to such a degree though, that is another matter (to be fair, Biden's administration was doing a decent job at improving the economy, so Trump is in a better position than when Biden took over with the economy in shit).
No doubt Trump will pull some shenanigans in an effort to suppress democratic votes in time for 2028.
No doubt Trump will credit himself for the bolded.
Just curious how the "$5 for a dozen eggs" narrative will play out.
It ll be interesting for sure. The Dems have had some of the misfortune to come in at a time when the economy was due for a recession. This time the Republicans can be argued to inherit that. We are on the longest economic upswing in a long time...possibly ever. There have been plenty of signs already that won't last forever. Question is - will the bottom fall out in the next 4 years? The economy is always on a natural up and down turn cycle only this time it's been (artificially) pumped to the gills to sustain the up much longer than is logical. Especially in this country where we've seen some record growth numbers compared to a lot of the rest of the Western world.
The main difference for me is that Trump is like a force of nature that tears democratic institutions and norms down. The legal system, bureaucracy, expertise government, election integrity, peaceful transition of power, expansion of executive power, the concept of facts, meritocratic executive departments, election rhetoric, moral and ethical norms.
On a policy by policy basis I disagree with Trump on a lot of issues, but I respect that many in the US have a different opinion. That battle of opinions is at the core of democracy. Tariffs make no sense, but fine - even well adjusted democratic governments have stupid policies.
What makes Trump uniquely dangerous is just how effective he is at tearing down the system of governance and how popular he remains while doing it.
I forgot sarcasm doesn't translate well online. I think it's a horrible plan, because it gives Putin a clear run at Ukraine after rebuilding.
Even if that’s true, simply quoting an article that’s solely based on the perspective of a partisan Democrat doesn’t make it a fact.
What is the narrative on the $5 eggs?
Ah gotcha. No worries. Part of it is probably that I'm in less of a joking mood than I normally am atm!
The narrative is that grocery prices rose and eggs were an often mentioned product. So I'm curious how this plays out in Trump's 2nd term.
JD Vance some time ago:
Pennsylvania Trump voter from a BBC article:
A lot of noise in this thread, and crazy hysteria which is to be expected from RedCafe.
Trump's big win, plus a majority in the Senate and House, puts him in a solid position to get his agenda through Congress. A lot of these members rode in on his coattails, so they’re likely to back him, which could lead to a pretty united government—a shift that seems to be what people want right now and could keep markets on a high for a while.
When it comes to tariffs, he can go solo without Congress, so we might see changes on that front right away. Even with all his tough talk on China, he kept tariffs relatively balanced in his first term, so I'm hoping he continues that approach.
Tax policy is likely at the top of his list too, especially since his previous tax cuts are about to expire. Extending or boosting those could happen fast since it’s a straightforward move compared to other initiatives.
The deficit’s a tough one. But if the economy can grow at 3% or more, it’ll ease a lot of fiscal strain. Since 90% of the budget is tied up in entitlements, defense, and interest, there’s not much room to cut spending. So, economic growth is really the best bet to bring in more revenue.
On immigration, he might get something through Congress, but it won’t be easy. He could use the earlier template from this year to start, but it’ll still be a complex process.
All in all, he’ll need to juggle a lot to keep the economy growing fast enough—more than 3%—to balance out the weight of the $35 trillion debt that’s looming larger by the day.
I do not get what has to do with noise and crazy hysteria in my post that you quoted. We pretty much agree on the economical growth point .
Apologies, that wasn’t directed at you specifically.
I responded to your post because it was one of the few sensible, thoughtful contributions here and worth engaging with. Most of the content on this thread, honestly, is just low-quality noise.
Not to say this isn't something they should or need to so- but this along with many other news items right now makes it clear DC is already doing what it always does: switching gears for the incoming presidency. Some out of self preservation. That also means heads will roll at many contractors and non profits.
Not sure what this has to do with my post?