The Trump Presidency - Part 2


Pharma industry lobbyists haven't been paying Trump's entourage enough. They need to sweeten the pot a bit more so RFK's crazy ideas get sidelined.
This government is at it's core, a huge money grab. Remove as many rules and regulations as you can, lower environmental standards...it's all about big money getting every last cent and keeping taxes low for big business.
 
Lots of overreacting here. We got through his first term and so will do this time around.

Dems should learns some lessons and take this back in 4 years.

Overreacting? Have you seen his appointments? In 2016 at least he had somewhat functioning adults around him to keep him in check - this time around it's going to be a total shit show. Gaetz as AG? RKF jr as Secretary of Health? fecking hell :lol:
 
How can Americans not be worried and honestly a bit scared that you're going to have inmates running the asylum? Who is going to tell these mugs no with all the power they have compared to 2016.
 
How can Americans not be worried and honestly a bit scared that you're going to have inmates running the asylum? Who is going to tell these mugs no with all the power they have compared to 2016.
Resistance libs will save us.
 
How can Americans not be worried and honestly a bit scared that you're going to have inmates running the asylum? Who is going to tell these mugs no with all the power they have compared to 2016.
The ones that aren’t worried either don’t pay attention or are ideologically aligned with what’s happening.
 
I think if someone had written this as a movie script, they would have got told to review it again and tone it down because it’s a bit too much.
 
The dystopia speedrun is going to be epic. Soon as they get the old boy out the door, pedal to the metal and see how fast we can burn this baby out. Yeeehaw!
 
His supporters won't care, especially if all the news reports they're consuming are coming from biased sources like X and Fox.
Everyone else? well eventually, much like the last time, you just become numb about it all.
He'll throw so much crazy shit at you that it eventually wears you down.
American will be sleeping walking into a shit storm and he'll be dragging the rest of the world with him.
 
The thing is. Weren't we always told of the the likes of military industrial complex and how they controlled government. Plus all the other elites. Black Rock for example. So how has none of them stopped this mad fk? Surely fkibg up America is good for no one. So does this prove there isn't a cabal controlling the government and the likes of the military have no real power
The MIC in America is absolutely massive. I mean without precedent in human history. A trillion dollars a year every year pumped into that apparatus in declared and undeclared (hidden/cover) monies. If it were a corporation, in cumulative terms, it would be far and away the largest on the planet.

But there is a structure to it. Scores of agencies and subcontractors and other entities all vying for different things: contracts, political power, and the list goes on. At the end of the day, it is the US president which is the head of this complex. The only president that perhaps/maybe/definitely was taken out by this complex back when a sinister bastard ran the CIA was JFK (and likely RKF, too). Other than that, I've never bought the idea that they were killing their own leaders or would try to. That they infiltrated Malcolm X's team (his bodyguard the day he was shot was an FBI informant) and harassed MLK (same with other civil rights leaders) is a matter of historical record. They had compromat on MLK (photographic evidence of him cheating on his wife) and used it to create internal problems (same as when they used to call M.X and say N-word, and your family is going to die, etc). This was the 60s - the decade of assassinations.

Now, Trump poured weapons into Ukraine (more than Obama) and killed the head commander of the Iranian revolutionary guard. He also moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. These are things the pentagon (which is the one, really, with the NSA, which has the most clout) would have had groups in various favour of (certainly the Iranian move and the Ukrainian weapons flow). When it became a quid pro quo thing - with Zelensky - the MIC briefed against Trump and tried (iirc) to have him ousted. So they still can and do a fair bit of politicking when they want.

As for Blackrock - 7 trillion dollars in rich people's assets is what they control. It's the largest hedgefund in the world. But who is to say Trump doesn't have money with them? Is it disclosed? Last I heard it was private. Needed an invention for them to manage your money. Also, Trump made tax-cuts which were in their favour is saying he's going to do the same again. Whatever political power that group has, and it's a far more complex issue because it's a group of people who might not even know each other that well unless all investors are disclosed, they nonetheless like trillions of dollars in tax-cuts for business reasons. There is no anti-Trump agenda that can come from there.
 
No, the Lincoln Project will.
In all seriousness, it will be their own incompetence that limits their destructiveness. Heritage wants to transform the US back to the 1920s but there’s only so much they can roll back at any given time, and despite Section F, executive orders and the SC, they can’t pass any real spending bill with the extremely thin majority they have, the feckers didn’t even manage to elect a Speaker with the same majority after the last midterm.
 
I think if someone had written this as a movie script, they would have got told to review it again and tone it down because it’s a bit too much.

Nah this is just The Empire Strikes Back or Avengers: Infinity War where everything seems lost
 
The thing is. Weren't we always told of the the likes of military industrial complex and how they controlled government. Plus all the other elites. Black Rock for example. So how has none of them stopped this mad fk? Surely fkibg up America is good for no one. So does this prove there isn't a cabal controlling the government and the likes of the military have no real power

So you're telling me consipriacy theories about an all powerful global elite in control of absolutely everything aren't actually true? Colour me shocked.

All that nonsense was always a fantasy dreamed up as a comfort to people who can't handle a world full of incompetence, chaos and bad luck. They need good guys, bad guys and a sense that everything is being controlled by someone. That's the only way they can make sense of a world where religion no longer provides the certainty and order they crave.
 
The thing is. Weren't we always told of the the likes of military industrial complex and how they controlled government. Plus all the other elites. Black Rock for example. So how has none of them stopped this mad fk? Surely fkibg up America is good for no one. So does this prove there isn't a cabal controlling the government and the likes of the military have no real power
Military Industrial Complex is not a guy. It was a term coined by the President of the United States. And insofar as there are vested interests in war as a profit-making scheme, why would they come running to stop a man who threatens to make the world more conflict volatile? Surely they would want more war.
 
You can't deny that Americans asked for this shitshow.
 
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Military Industrial Complex is not a guy. It was a term coined by the President of the United States. And insofar as there are vested interests in war as a profit-making scheme, why would they come running to stop a man who threatens to make the world more conflict volatile? Surely they would want more war.
He wants to stop the War in Ukraine and wasn't one of his selling points that there was no wars in his first term?
 
So you're telling me consipriacy theories about an all powerful global elite in control of absolutely everything aren't actually true? Colour me shocked.

All that nonsense was always a fantasy dreamed up as a comfort to people who can't handle a world full of incompetence, chaos and bad luck. They need good guys, bad guys and a sense that everything is being controlled by someone. That's the only way they can make sense of a world where religion no longer provides the certainty and order they crave.
Yes. I was talking broader terms. There are really rich powerful people. There is Black Rock for instance. Even if its not a cabal conspiracy theory surely they don't want America to burn down?
 
He wants to stop the War in Ukraine and wasn't one of his selling points that there was no wars in his first term?
The no wars thing wasn't true though and his way of stopping the Ukraine war is to reward the aggressors in that conflict by stopping the $$$
 
He wants to stop the War in Ukraine and wasn't one of his selling points that there was no wars in his first term?
Yes he sells himself as a dove when it suits him. He also lies a lot, but he probably does want to end certain conflicts while wishing to exacerbate others.

My point is that you can't broadly dismiss all the various different claims of shady political dealings and harmful special interest groups with excessive influence over the US political system. And if they do exist, them not rushing to defend America from Trump is not evidence of their non-existence, particularly when many would presumably benefit from a Trump presidency.
 


Between this and the Russians telling reporters Trump "has some obligations towards those who brought him to power, and as a responsible person he is fulfilling those obligations", this is all clearly very much comforting to anyone worried about foreign influences.
 


Senators surely have to grow a spine at some point

Musk shouldn't be running the fecking show

Let alone have a lunatic like MTG tell them to be scared of anything. I'm hoping that the opposite will happen of what I fear - in that instead of bending over to Donnie and co, they ll draw a very strong line in the sand this time around. They have lost some very strong voices in the Republican establishment however so I'm not very optimistic. And its kind of disturbing me that Im rooting for them in the first place ...but here we are.