The Trump Presidency - Part 2

Wouldn’t that be the logical conclusion? You don’t seem to like this place.
I was referring to the Current Events section. And I do like it…but I prefer to post now and then, as opposed to consistently. There’s no point in the latter imo.
 
I was referring to the Current Events section.
Then leave that. It’s not difficult, really. You do it all the time, after getting fairly criticised for horrible takes and shitty sources, after all. Shouldn’t be too hard to pull the plug completely.
 
Then leave that. It’s not difficult, really. You do it all the time, after getting fairly criticised for horrible takes and shitty sources, after all. Shouldn’t be too hard to pull the plug completely.
All the time? And give me an example of these horrible takes and shitty sources please?
 
All the time? And give me an example of these horrible takes and shitty sources please?
You mean shit like posting insanely stupid videos of Norwegian shills who love to spread Russian propaganda?
 
Then leave that. It’s not difficult, really. You do it all the time, after getting fairly criticised for horrible takes and shitty sources, after all. Shouldn’t be too hard to pull the plug completely.

Bang on!
 
You mean shit like posting insanely stupid videos of Norwegian shills who love to spread Russian propaganda?
As I mentioned previously - I didn’t know the person who posted the tweet. Norwegian political figures aren’t exactly on the tips of people’s tongues.

In any case the person who posted the tweet is irrelevant to the content of the video contained within it. What people like Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs are saying is that any intelligent, or perhaps it’s better to say…wise analysis of the war can’t contain the claim that it was unprovoked.

Hardly a horrible take now is it? :rolleyes:

 
As I mentioned previously - I didn’t know the person who posted the tweet. Norwegian political figures aren’t exactly on the tips of people’s tongues.

In any case the person who posted the tweet is irrelevant to the content of the video contained within it. What people like Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs are saying is that any intelligent, or perhaps it’s better to say…wise analysis of the war can’t contain the claim that it was unprovoked.

Hardly a horrible take now is it? :rolleyes:

The words Mearsheimer and intellligent really don’t go well together.
 
As I mentioned previously - I didn’t know the person who posted the tweet. Norwegian political figures aren’t exactly on the tips of people’s tongues.

In any case the person who posted the tweet is irrelevant to the content of the video contained within it. What people like Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs are saying is that any intelligent, or perhaps it’s better to say…wise analysis of the war can’t contain the claim that it was unprovoked.

Hardly a horrible take now is it? :rolleyes:


It's a terrible take. Also, if you did an ounce of research you would find out what sort of character Diesen is - which is a huge pro-Russia cnut.
 
As I mentioned previously - I didn’t know the person who posted the tweet. Norwegian political figures aren’t exactly on the tips of people’s tongues.

In any case the person who posted the tweet is irrelevant to the content of the video contained within it. What people like Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs are saying is that any intelligent, or perhaps it’s better to say…wise analysis of the war can’t contain the claim that it was unprovoked.

Hardly a horrible take now is it? :rolleyes:

Isn't it though? That one video was used as a sort of prediction, but somehow forgot Russia didnt in fact first invade Ukraine in 2022. It's like predicting world war 2 in 1941.

Obviously wars don't happen in a vacuum, but the reasons Diesen usually gives are unabashed Kremlin agitprop (I know you just shared the Tweet and nothing else of him, but a very quick Googling would've remedied that). Ukraine, a free country wanting to align with the west may peeve Russia, but it gives them 0% justification to invade.

Putin will obviously say he's provoked. He also said he was provoked into going to war with Georgia. That's kind of the warmongery dictator thing to do. You can hardly just say, I miss the Russian Empire so I'm taking parts back.

It's basically the same thing as when Poland, France and England provoked Hitler into starting WW2.

Though I guess Neville Chamberlain did his best to be a peacekeeper. I'm sure someone can make Trump say Peace for our time as I'm sure he's never actually read a history book.
 
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As I mentioned previously - I didn’t know the person who posted the tweet. Norwegian political figures aren’t exactly on the tips of people’s tongues.

In any case the person who posted the tweet is irrelevant to the content of the video contained within it. What people like Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs are saying is that any intelligent, or perhaps it’s better to say…wise analysis of the war can’t contain the claim that it was unprovoked.

Hardly a horrible take now is it? :rolleyes:

Only if you believe that Russia has a right to a ‘sphere of influence’, which is patent bullshit. Otherwise, nothing Ukraine, NATO or anyone else did could justify Russia invading a sovereign nation, and to say otherwise is spreading Russian propaganda and is indeed a ‘horrible take’.
 
It's a terrible take. Also,
What’s ‘terrible’ about it?

if you did an ounce of research you would find out what sort of character Diesen is - which is a huge pro-Russia cnut.
I’ve no interest in the man, but I will be a bit more cognisant of sources from now on. I’ve no desire to create any unnecessary distractions.
 
He deserves to get deported. Absolutely zero sympathy for him.
I don't know what they were expecting. He used them all for votes but at the end of the day trump only cares about his agenda. His agenda has no place for hispanics or any other minority. This is why I've been saying all the people who are a part of that demographic that voted fro him should be ashamed of themselves. A lot of them are realizing their mistake but it's a little to late. There's no going back now.
 
Only if you believe that Russia has a right to a ‘sphere of influence’, which is patent bullshit. Otherwise, nothing Ukraine, NATO or anyone else did could justify Russia invading a sovereign nation, and to say otherwise is spreading Russian propaganda and is indeed a ‘horrible take’.
I don’t know why people even engage the word ‘right’ in these discussions. I believe that no country has the Right to invade another, but my moral sense has no effect here.

This is about cause and effect, or action and reaction. Just like America reacted to the deployment of Soviet missiles in Cuba, or say…the likely reaction that China would have towards an invitation for Taiwan to join NATO.
 
I don't know what they were expecting. He used them all for votes but at the end of the day trump only cares about his agenda. His agenda has no place for hispanics or any other minority. This is why I've been saying all the people who are a part of that demographic that voted fro him should be ashamed of themselves. A lot of them are realizing their mistake but it's a little to late. There's no going back now.
It also says a lot about the people employed at ICE
 
I don’t know why people even engage the word ‘right’ in these discussions. I believe that no country has the Right to invade another, but my moral sense has no effect here.

This is about cause and effect, or action and reaction. Just like America reacted to the deployment of Soviet missiles in Cuba, or say…the likely reaction that China would have towards an invitation for Taiwan to join NATO.

People who use Cuba as an example of "US reacted aggressively to Soviet Missiles" is hilarious, because the whole thing started well before the Soviets got involved.

US was sanctioning and trying to coup Cuba when Cuba's main beneficiary was Communist China, not the Soviet Union. Cuba became one of the first countries to formally recognise the PRC.

The whole thing is like the US giving Ukraine weapons in 2023, when shit had already kicked off there. US didn't "react" to anything in 1960s, it was the one who exasperated the problem in the first place.

Soviets got involved primarily because they didn't want Cuba to become a Chinese client state and used it as a great opportunity to gain influence, and pissing off the Americans was just an added bonus. Which is why the de-escalation occurred very smoothly as well because everyone realized it was bullshido.
 

Cooooooooooool. Didn't think that living in a border city to the USA would ever make me anxious...

In other news... how easy is it to move to New Zealand? They seem far enough away from the rest of the world and forgotten about?
 
Best case scenario is that it continues to flip-flop between Democrats and Republicans in power, and that is pretty useless for Europe, to be honest. If the American stance on transatlantic relations switches every four years, it’s going to be better to just be as independent as possible in all matters, not just defense.

Yes exactly. And I do believe that will be the case, although it will take some time and effective leadership.
 
Cooooooooooool. Didn't think that living in a border city to the USA would ever make me anxious...

In other news... how easy is it to move to New Zealand? They seem far enough away from the rest of the world and forgotten about?
That’s where I want to go! :lol: I did a year over there and had the best time. If I didn’t have a child and partner I’d be over there in a flash if I could.
 
People who use Cuba as an example of "US reacted aggressively to Soviet Missiles" is hilarious, because the whole thing started well before the Soviets got involved.
Indeed. The Soviet deployment in Cuba matched American deployments in Italy and Turkey.

US was sanctioning and trying to coup Cuba when Cuba's main beneficiary was Communist China, not the Soviet Union. Cuba became one of the first countries to formally recognise the PRC.

The whole thing is like the US giving Ukraine weapons in 2023, when shit had already kicked off there. US didn't "react" to anything in 1960s, it was the one who exasperated the problem in the first place.

Soviets got involved primarily because they didn't want Cuba to become a Chinese client state and used it as a great opportunity to gain influence, and pissing off the Americans was just an added bonus. Which is why the de-escalation occurred very smoothly as well because everyone realized it was bullshido.
The point is that countries, like people, react to things.
 
That’s where I want to go! :lol: I did a year over there and had the best time. If I didn’t have a child and partner I’d be over there in a flash if I could.
Turn yourself in to a Hobbit and they'll take you in a flash
 
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