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I don't think there's much doubt now that Tulsi Gabbard will run in 2020 and win it. Her activity is plain to see, short of establishing her fundraising PAC she's done everything in that direction and I think she'll run a campaign similar to Sanders'.
 
I don't think there's much doubt now that Tulsi Gabbard will run in 2020 and win it. Her activity is plain to see, short of establishing her fundraising PAC she's done everything in that direction and I think she'll run a campaign similar to Sanders'.

She's a complete charlatan and won't get much support.
 
Yeah I don't really see anything here. There are loads of 17 year olds who say stupid crap not knowing what they may be doing in life 15 years later.

I'd normally agree but it's not like he's radically changed his political outlook from his teenage years.
 
She's a complete charlatan and won't get much support.

She's not a charlatan and she'll get knocked at for her lack of experience but she has a squeaky clean service record, resonates with the same base as Sanders and Trump did on both sides and can connect with both the centrists on either side as well as the younger liberals.
 
@Raoul That's my point. Miller hasn't changed, once an a**hole, now an a**hole. Most 17 year olds a**holes mature when they get older.
 
She's not a charlatan and she'll get knocked at for her lack of experience but she has a squeaky clean service record, resonates with the same base as Sanders and Trump did on both sides and can connect with both the centrists on either side as well as the younger liberals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ard-thinking-on-syria/?utm_term=.4cfecf7449e8

She's pretty much been doing the bidding of Assad, Putin or both. Don't think she'd get much love from the center if she came under the real scrutiny a presidential candidate does.
 
She's not a charlatan and she'll get knocked at for her lack of experience but she has a squeaky clean service record, resonates with the same base as Sanders and Trump did on both sides and can connect with both the centrists on either side as well as the younger liberals.

You're kidding right ? She just went to Syria to visit Assad without telling Congress and by way of funding by an Assad linked group. She's scum.
 
I don't think there's much doubt now that Tulsi Gabbard will run in 2020 and win it. Her activity is plain to see, short of establishing her fundraising PAC she's done everything in that direction and I think she'll run a campaign similar to Sanders'.

Her name was mentioned quite a bit after Trump won, but the tides turned against her. Her dodgy meeting with Assad alarmed a lot of people and destroyed her credibility.

You just need to look in the right places online and see how disliked she currently is.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ard-thinking-on-syria/?utm_term=.4cfecf7449e8

She's pretty much been doing the bidding of Assad, Putin or both. Don't think she'd get much love from the center if she came under the real scrutiny a presidential candidate does.

You're kidding right ? She just went to Syria to visit Assad without telling Congress and by way of funding by an Assad linked group. She's scum.

Her name was mentioned quite a bit after Trump won but the tides turned against her. Her dodgy meeting with Assad alarmed a lot of people and destroyed her credibility.

You just need to look in the right places online and see how disliked she currently is.

She overreached with that trip, started believing in her own hype, which led to the obvious misstep. In the end she ended up paying her own way for the entire trip. However she was already gearing into campaign mode and hoped that would catapult her into the mainstream, she has slowed her roll a bit now and gone back to building things slowly by trying to build legislation that suits her core supporters.

Regarding the Jacobin article, there's many high profile Dems like Obama who did a U-turn on same sex marriage, Biden still says he believes in his Church's definition of marriage but he supports others' right to choose, so using her past beliefs to knock her now shows how hard it is to peg her down.
 
Glad to hear. The less attention this trainwreck gets, the better.

I didn't think it was such a great article but there's some stuff there that might haunt her if she runs as the Bernie wing's candidate. She's alarmingly popular among Bernie supporters though, almost all of it for her defiance and resignation.
 
She overreached with that trip, started believing in her own hype, which led to the obvious misstep. In the end she ended up paying her own way for the entire trip. However she was already gearing into campaign mode and hoped that would catapult her into the mainstream, she has slowed her roll a bit now and gone back to building things slowly by trying to build legislation that suits her core supporters.

Regarding the Jacobin article, there's many high profile Dems like Obama who did a U-turn on same sex marriage, Biden still says he believes in his Church's definition of marriage but he supports others' right to choose, so using her past beliefs to knock her now shows how hard it is to peg her down.

Even if she wound up paying for the trip after she was exposed, the fundamental problem is she's viewed as a complete charlatan in most circles. She doesn't get along with the Dem establishment and thus isn't likely to get much support. Her political positions regarding interventionism are completely naive and unrealistic, and to top it off she comes across as ambitiously shallow. She's a million miles from anything worthy of being compared to Obama or Sanders, who both bring tremendous substance and a strong ability to defend their positions to the table.

BTW, i've noticed CNN have for the most part dropped Tulsi from appearing on their network since this debacle. Can't be a coincidence.
 
Even if she wound up paying for the trip after she was exposed, the fundamental problem is she's viewed as a complete charlatan in most circles. She doesn't get along with the Dem establishment and thus isn't likely to get much support. Her political positions regarding interventionism are completely naive and unrealistic, and to top it off she comes across as ambitiously shallow. She's a million miles from anything worthy of being compared to Obama or Sanders, who both bring tremendous substance and a strong ability to defend their positions to the table.

BTW, i've noticed CNN have for the most part dropped Tulsi from appearing on their network since this debacle. Can't be a coincidence.

I think its more of Gabbard withdrawing herself from the public eye for a while than anything to do with CNN. CNN's standards are so low they were still on Kellyanne's teet after she claimed Obama was spying on people from microwaves.
 
I didn't think it was such a great article but there's some stuff there that might haunt her if she runs as the Bernie wing's candidate. She's alarmingly popular among Bernie supporters though, almost all of it for her defiance and resignation.

I don't think there is a Bernie wing any more so she will be on her own if she decides to run.

The Dems need Gavin Newsom and a few other Trump slayers to get their act together for 2020.
 
I think its more of Gabbard withdrawing herself from the public eye for a while than anything to do with CNN. CNN's standards are so low they were still on Kellyanne's teet after she claimed Obama was spying on people from microwaves.

She was a favorite on Wolf Biltzer's show along with the GOP's Adam Kinzinger - both promoted as newish millennial congress members on display. Since her trainwreck Assad trip it's only been Kinzinger on TV. This won't help her profile, nor will being on TV and having to answer why she traveled to Syria to yuck it up with a genocidal dictator.
 
I wasn't an asshole when I was 17. I was a creepy weirdo, but definitely not an asshole.

I'll bet you can find all kinds of idiotic things 17 year olds said on the back of school busses that would embarrass the hell out of them if played back 15 years later when they have successful careers.
 
I suppose the Dems can breathe a sigh of relief Ellison wasn't elected as DNC chair (although vice chair).

 
Well the other option might be Mark Zuckerberg.

It would be a fascinating campaign, that's for sure. I'd be interested to see how the advantage he would have with Facebook would need to be controlled.
 
I don't think there is a Bernie wing any more so she will be on her own if she decides to run.

The Dems need Gavin Newsom and a few other Trump slayers to get their act together for 2020.


I hope some centrist says this in public :drool:
 
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