The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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Some of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
Some of the stuff you come out with
So it's down to the notion that he is a good orator .How does that explain Trump .
I think there is a very high chance for that.
Sorry not following you there.
Is that real? (I'm genuinely asking because I haven't heard of grist.org before)
If so that shows quite a bit of confidence on the Chinese side. Would be encouraging, given that they still believe in rational reasoning.
Whatever Trump's appeal, it's not down to his oratory
I think the media have crushed on Obama from day one. He was perfect for them. Black, liberal, with a nice line in high-sounding rhetoric - the embodiment of their vision, or delusion, of what the country might be.
Trump is their worst nightmare taken flesh.
Sorry not following you there.
He's calling you a filthy hypocrite.
Wow, you don't half-talk shite, do you?
Why?
They are one of the countries suffering the most from CC, so it's not a surprise it's important to them.
Look at the Brexit thread right now and choose your conclusions...
No.
I'm not suggesting that the NYT and other liberal outlets haven't, in carefully measured tones, more in sorrow than in anger, sometimes diverged from Obama and his administration. But comparing his treatment with his conservative predecessors, the difference speaks for itself.
The media is often unable to restrain itself from suggesting that a Republican occupant of the White House is actually evil.
Because your moaning about Hilary being the wrong choice for the Democratic ticket was quite pointless after she he won and was the candidate... By your logic.
What on earth are you on about? You can show me these moaning posts I take it.
Yeah, but the media (there is media other than the New York Times, alas) also regularly said that about Obama, which doesn't really fit with your suggestion that 'he's hardly been criticised in 8 years'.
Maybe I've got the wrong person.
Was it not you who was contemplating supporting Trump over Clinton, after she defeated Sanders?
That was Red Dreams
Oops. Well, then, I have no idea what they're on about... no.That was Red Dreams
It was Red_Dreams
You joking? Apart from the fact I'm English the only posts I made before the election were moaning about Trump!Has ole Bird's Eye got the wrong poster?
*cough*
Has ole Bird's Eye got the wrong poster?
Move along. Nothing to see here... Sorry!
I've had to double check the two RDs at times too. But Red Dreams has
his own
peculiar way
of writing
Not to worry....I get much worse in the Brexit thread.
I've had to double check the two RDs at times too. But Red Dreams has...
his own...
peculiar way...
of writing...
Fixed.
Read somewhere that this is the age where people can't decide whether something is right or wrong unless you tell them the name of the political party that said it. Couldn't be more true.
With Trump is not exactly a logical leap.
Yeah, okay. Mea culpa. That 'hardly criticised' thing is not defensible. Of course he's been criticised.
But the tone of coverage is very important in shaping the public's impression of a politician. Even those who know nothing about policy would still form a very favourable impression of Obama from his treatment by the press.
Going out on a limb here but perhaps the impression a politician leaves with the press is affected by the calibre of the politician himself?
You can get a favourable impression of Obama from watching Obama.
I agree with your prior point about sometimes a seemingly broad categorization of Republicans as 'the devil', but its not in the mainstream media that I personally find that, rather in opinion pieces.
You might like this from a while back: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-11/five-books-to-change-liberals-minds
EDIT, and this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/how-paul-krugman-made-donald-trump-possible.html
True story, I and a friend got fecked up at Fogo de chao after having one too many Caipirinhas and cigars
I started to notice this in the Obama legacy thread.
It's the hope that kills you. I've already made up my mind that 2017 would be a banner year for American bullshit.
You guys still looking at polls huh?
Thanks for the recommendations. Those books sound fascinating and, what's more, I intend to read them!
As someone whose ideas, for better or worse, have always come out of his own head, maybe reading what others have to say about these themes might be educational.
Scalia wrote a book? I'll have to read that, just because it's him.
Now this is a very good point! If we can't trust the most trusted election time polls why even bother with these junk ones?
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