The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Will be interesting. Campaign Obama > all other Obamas.

Also, the political landscape has changed drastically since '92, but one of Bill Clinton's biggest mistake, culminating in the '94 loss, was taking too many from Dem Congress Caucus since he lacked the relationships and contacts needed to fill the executive posts. President-Elect Von Clownstick seems to be following the same footsteps, lots of GOP Senators and Congressmen being mooted for Cabinet jobs.
 
Revan said:
I think that the majority of Americans think that humanity is the main reason for the global warming, and support some type of background check when it comes to getting weapons.

It is just that the people who voted Trump are a bit special.
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I think most acknowledge global warming, but from what I understand most don't agree with the scientific consensus of humans being primarily responsible (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...t-believe-scientific-consensus-climate-change)

Even more alarming is a whooping 91% don't consider it our most alarming issue facing the planet, with only Saudi Arabia being more apathetic (http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/01/poll-91-of-americans-arent-worried-about-global-warming/)
 
Gaffney (no, not Dean) is one of the new people put into the transition team

 
Kaos said:
A bit of a shitpost/rant here, but I've been trawling twitter, instagram (yes I know) and other social media outlets, and genuinely perplexed at the smug nonsense of the faux-Libertarian crowd who genuinely believe Trump winning signals some sort political revolution.

Firstly they seem convinced the US finally has a bonafide non-interventionist - "hurr durr he's not going to start any wars like Hillary, herp derp" - Yeah, that's why he's immediately surrounded himself with reasonable pacifists like John Bolton and Newt Gingrich.

Then there's the David Duke/Alt-right anti-Semite crowd - "Trump will finally crush the Jewish global conspiracy!, herp derp" - Hate to break it to you, but Trump has promised to become closer than ever to the state of Israel, while being the first president to provokingly move the embassy to Jerusalem. Oops.

Oh and let's not forget the classic "He's an outsider that understands us and rejects the political elite!, drain the swamp derp!" - Yep, and that's precisely why he's looking to appoint both a former Goldman Sachs exec and Bear Stearns chief economist to the treasury, as well as handing out nepotistic appointments to family and powerful rich friends.

The only consolation left in all this madness is knowing how stupid these cretins will soon look. But even then they're probably delusional enough to spin it into a positive.
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I think they refer to the politicians and how some end up very rich and powerful.
 
Raoul said:
If you think my views have changed, just have a look at this....

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Yes, but the difference is Mr.Johnson doesn't actually believe that what he says is true. (Unless he does, in which case there is even less hope).
 
Revan said:
Yes, but that would also mean that the next Democrat senate, can finish all the filibusters for Supreme Justices. If you look in the Bush's administration, the Republican senate didn't use the nuclear option despite threatening to do so, and instead they made a deal with some Democrat senators (Gang of 14?) to appoint just some of the judges, with the promise that the Democrats won't filibuster them. And well, it wasn't for Supreme Justices in the first place, which will be an even bigger precedent.

I think it all depends on how comfortable the Republicans are on maintaining the Senate on 2 years, and of course Trump getting reelected. Because if they use the nuclear option and lose both the presidency and the senate in a few years, then it will be quite bad for them. But then, it isn't like Republicans are afraid of setting precedents, and also thinking too much about the future.

I guess we all can hope that Trump chooses a moderate conservative for Scalia's seat, and none of the liberal justices (and Kennedy) retire/die in the next 2 years. It will be more important than ever for Democrats to regain the majority on the senate in a couple of years.
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Does the current Republican party seem like one that cares about the long term? ;)
 
Raoul said:
The mainstream media freakout about Trump not informing them of his whereabouts is quite hilarious. As if they have some sort of right to be with him all the time. If anything, this past cycle has taught us that they are increasingly irrelevant middlemen at a time when candidates can communicate with the world directly via social media.
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so long as he has the security with him, he should be ok I thought.

interesting times.
 
Kaos said:
Boris has always been an opportunist clown, just look at his change of stance regarding the EU when he sensed he could ascend his career.
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Or when he realised that the world is stuck with Trump as president and so we had better take a positive attitude and get on with it. Moaning about Trump being unfit to lead is quite pointless now because he won and is leading the government.
 
Ubik said:
Gaffney (no, not Dean) is one of the new people put into the transition team

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That's interesting. Russia have the MB listed as a terrorist organisation. Makes you wonder if Trump isn't thinking along the same lines.
 
Red Defence said:
Or when he realised that the world is stuck with Trump as president and so we had better take a positive attitude and get on with it. Moaning about Trump being unfit to lead is quite pointless now because he won and is leading the government.
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No one says he should have a good moan, just go with the usual 'congratulations and look forward to working with you', or if he was being a bit more clever go with the German "well done and I hope you can respect our shared values" line. Instead he condescends the rest of us by telling us to stop whinging when he himself was pretty damning of him.

Its not just the election either, he's stayed consistent on pretty much nothing in his career.
 
Kaos said:
No one says he should have a good moan, just go with the usual 'congratulations and look forward to working with you', or if he was being a bit more clever go with the German "well done and I hope you can respect our shared values" line. Instead he condescends the rest of us by telling us to stop whinging when he himself was pretty damning of him.

Its not just the election either, he's stayed consistent on pretty much nothing in his career.
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He's a positive sort of person in general is Boris. Whinging and moaning about a fait accompli is something he doesn't relate to.
 
Kaos said:
A bit of a shitpost/rant here, but I've been trawling twitter, instagram (yes I know) and other social media outlets, and genuinely perplexed at the smug nonsense of the faux-Libertarian crowd who genuinely believe Trump winning signals some sort political revolution.

Firstly they seem convinced the US finally has a bonafide non-interventionist - "hurr durr he's not going to start any wars like Hillary, herp derp" - Yeah, that's why he's immediately surrounded himself with reasonable pacifists like John Bolton and Newt Gingrich.

Then there's the David Duke/Alt-right anti-Semite crowd - "Trump will finally crush the Jewish global conspiracy!, herp derp" - Hate to break it to you, but Trump has promised to become closer than ever to the state of Israel, while being the first president to provokingly move the embassy to Jerusalem. Oops.

Oh and let's not forget the classic "He's an outsider that understands us and rejects the political elite!, drain the swamp derp!" - Yep, and that's precisely why he's looking to appoint both a former Goldman Sachs exec and Bear Stearns chief economist to the treasury, as well as handing out nepotistic appointments to family and powerful rich friends.

The only consolation left in all this madness is knowing how stupid these cretins will soon look. But even then they're probably delusional enough to spin it into a positive.
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spot on post
 
Kaos said:
A bit of a shitpost/rant here, but I've been trawling twitter, instagram (yes I know) and other social media outlets, and genuinely perplexed at the smug nonsense of the faux-Libertarian crowd who genuinely believe Trump winning signals some sort political revolution.

Firstly they seem convinced the US finally has a bonafide non-interventionist - "hurr durr he's not going to start any wars like Hillary, herp derp" - Yeah, that's why he's immediately surrounded himself with reasonable pacifists like John Bolton and Newt Gingrich.

Then there's the David Duke/Alt-right anti-Semite crowd - "Trump will finally crush the Jewish global conspiracy!, herp derp" - Hate to break it to you, but Trump has promised to become closer than ever to the state of Israel, while being the first president to provokingly move the embassy to Jerusalem. Oops.

Oh and let's not forget the classic "He's an outsider that understands us and rejects the political elite!, drain the swamp derp!" - Yep, and that's precisely why he's looking to appoint both a former Goldman Sachs exec and Bear Stearns chief economist to the treasury, as well as handing out nepotistic appointments to family and powerful rich friends.

The only consolation left in all this madness is knowing how stupid these cretins will soon look. But even then they're probably delusional enough to spin it into a positive.
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I'm 100% sure this will happen.
 
Red Defence said:
Or when he realised that the world is stuck with Trump as president and so we had better take a positive attitude and get on with it. Moaning about Trump being unfit to lead is quite pointless now because he won and is leading the government.
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Interesting. Is that how you went about when Hillary Clinton was elected as the Dems candidate for the presidential ticket? To put on a positive attitude and get on with it?
 
Ubik said:
More specifically, it's Boris Johnson.
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He's the British Foreign Secretary. Whatever he may think of Donald Trump, it's of the highest importance for Britain that the relationship between the UK government and the US administration is a positive one over the next four years. Particularly since a new trade deal with the US will have to be negotiated post Brexit. It's hardly surprising that Boris is finding his own words an appetizing dish. (I suspect Mrs May would have vetoed the Hinkley Point nuclear deal as well if she could've risked alienating the Chinese when trade deals will have to be struck.)
 
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