President Pence is a much scarier proposition than President Trump.
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Domestically yes, internationally I'd maybe say not. Maybe...
I've not paid full attention to the thread so apologies if posted.
Trump wants trial delay until after swearing-in
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/us/trump-trial-delay-sought/index.html
Trump wants trial delay until after swearing-in
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/us/trump-trial-delay-sought/index.html
The children operating his "blind" trust? Trump, never change.
And privatize border patrol. Trump Security(TM)
Because he's too busy during the transition?!
Because when he takes office hell have plenty of spare time
Well that will be the next argument.Because he's too busy during the transition?!
Because when he takes office hell have plenty of spare time
Exactly, it's so transparent
I think I despise incompetence more than policy I disagree with.
Poor Tiffany Trump.Tweet from John Kasich's chief strategist re Bannon's appointment. Even the Republican's are horrified about what's going down. But hey, it's all good because the wall will be part-fence and Trump is a closet democrat really.
FECK 2016!
If they have any spine whatsoever then they will stand up and oppose him. They have been utterly spineless throughout his campaign - refusing to condemn him until the tapes came out and they had an easy way to do so, and now most of them unite behind him again. They're ultimately traitors to their country if they don't oppose these abhorrent people around him.
At least they're fecking calling it like it is. I find that far less bothersome than this frantic revisionism from people who have decided that he's no longer a threat now he's won the election.
I agree. It's like a whole section of society just thought "ah feck it, that sand look awesome, let's stick our heads in it" I can't work it out how people could be so certain of something because they were actually looking at the evidence right in front of them, to then suddenly convince themselves that actually it wasn't as bad at all and could actually be ok. I know I keep saying this all the time, but it really is insane.
I'm beginning to think this really can't stand: Trump won through a tenuous, outdated electoral college system without the support of the majority of Americans, through direct Russian interference intended to wreck havoc upon the US and the West in general, and is now going to give genuine political power to a White Supremacist. Make no mistake: if this goes through then fascism will see itself creeping into American politics. At that point, it'll become increasingly hard to reverse as people like Bannon gain a more firm grip on power.
When it reaches the point wherein fascists and supremacists are entering government then there absolutely has to be a genuine, very real fear for the safety of the people who are going to be targeted by such extremists.
The most firm way this can be opposed is through Republicans standing up against Trump and ousting him however they can - if that does not occur then the people may need to eventually take a stand. The man at the head of this is clueless and he is now giving political power to people who will seek to oppress minorities. Give it a few years and we'll be looking back at how no one stood up to stop atrocities occurring. It really could be that bad.
Someone got elected President whilst championing white nationalism. Some people really don't seem to have comprehended that that happened. Even if you insist Trump didn't mean any of it, it's literally proven that you can become the most powerful individual on the planet through explicit racism and misogyny! Like, no sugar coating, just straight out there. Ban a religion. Smear a nationality. Brag about sexual assaults.
It's also a very sad day for women, because the election essentially said that as a man you can do and say whatever the feck you want and you can lie pathologically and people will still forgive you, but they won't forgive one mistake if you're a woman. It's very sad, I actually feel really bad for Hillary, she deserved better really.
If I'm being honest I feel little for her - long-term she'll be fine and will have a fairly cosy life, even if it's tainted with professional disappointment. The people who will be subjected to the rule of Trump and his cronies, though? Depending on what happens they could have a very, very rough ride ahead of them.
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't mean like that. She's incredibly wealthy and has a superb life, I just mean with all the FBI interference and the WikiLeaks stuff, and also the relentless way the President Elect treated her, and the anger shown towards her in the crowds. I'm watching The Circus at the moment and I just felt sympathy for her because these people genuinely hate her vehemently and for no apparent reason other than being told to by a compulsive liar and Faux News who along with the Republicans relentlessly charged her with something that completely wasn't her fault. Benghazi.
Less than one week after his election. Second case of a teacher using the threat of Trump having power to scare minority kids.
..of America. Whose name is Rocky.
Sounds like you're the fanboy here refusing the accept the utterly corrupt nature of democrats. You've bought into DC think tank talking points and you talk about herd mentality? How ironic
. The guy won because of disastrous policies enacted by democrats, herd mentality was on those who worship mainstream media and celebrities. And guess what republicans aren't better, the two party duopoly is controlled by the same special interests. The fact that this whole cabal was against Trump is the only silver lining out of the election, but like I said I'm not holding my breath. I've enjoyed the entertainment though, especially of people crying all over the place because they didn't get what they wanted. Muahaha he said he will ban Muslims, I wanted dear leader who kills them instead! Sounds like you're the fanboy here refusing the accept the utterly corrupt nature of democrats. You've bought into DC think tank talking points and you talk about herd mentality? How ironic
Sorry, man...I know you're just joking here to an extent, but...you do realise this is real life, right? This isn't a dick character in some movie or TV show...this is a genuine political leader to-be who is now appointing a white supremacist to one major role, and has placed a man who believes in gay conversion therapy into the second most senior role in government. All this in the world's most powerful and influential country...off the back of interference from Putin, who has his own international aims and goals as well.
What's so funny about people 'crying' because they 'didn't get what they wanted'? Is it now funny if minorities/women are targeted? I know this seems hyperbolic, because we're used to a political world where most political leaders are all boring bastards who say the same shite and only vary on the odd tax policy or two...but we're genuinely seeing a US government that is going to contain elements of fascism. That...that should be a worry for everyone. Primarily for the people in the US who will be targeted by it...but also by everyone else. Because such behaviour in the world's foremost Western power will normalise that very same behaviour elsewhere.
feck knows, maybe we'll all be fine and Trump will be a great President who restores power to the American people. I don't know. But we can only go on what we've seen, and what we've seen suggests we're going to be getting a sexual predator for a President, a homophobic for a VP, and a fascist for Chief of Staff. Anyone who's 'crying' over that has my sympathies.
At least he asked before doing something stupid, lying about it, and then suggesting it was no big deal while possibly exposing state secrets while serving in public office.
I'd probably debate the use of 'fascist' as these days it is used mostly as an insult by people who have little idea of what fascism really is but they heard somebody use it at a protest in the '60s and it sounded true, man. Otherwise, it seems to be spot on.
That's just horribly racist.
Sounds like you're the fanboy here refusing the accept the utterly corrupt nature of democrats. You've bought into DC think tank talking points and you talk about herd mentality? How ironic
You go lead your revolution.
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I fear it will influence, if not define, American politics for a long time to come. Imagine you're a young politician from one of those counties that voted overwhelmingly for Trump. What conclusions would someone running for local or state gigs draw from this election, and about what plays with your constituents...
No sympathy for Hillary anymore though. "She deserved it", no she didn't. She had the easiest opponent in memory and the most help too, yet couldn't come up with one decent speech in 18 months (And i'm certain she could have had the best speech writers the world has to offer. Her closing rallies were Jigga telling black teens that the Donald wasn't a "refined character". I'm all for Jigga and black teens, but every moron could have known how that comes across to Iowa or rural Ohio). Seeing CNN list everybody they deem responsible for her loss, but herself, made my blood boil today. We can blame this election on racism, anti-semitism, misogyny and lies all we want, she and her allies on the top rungs of society take some blame too. (That doesn't absolve Donald from anything obviously).
She didn't run a great campaign but if everything was the same except she were male she would have won.
Pence doesn't believe that smoking gives you cancer. He is basically certifiable.
That's accusing a whole country of sexism.
Let us not rewrite history here. Trump found a way to win but, let us not forget it was the most disorganized campaign we have ever seen in a Presidential race.
Looks like we have a potential protester and fundraiser, stay busy funding the fake revolution, break as much shit as possible and send us pictures
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...residential-electors-to-colleagues-dump-trump
Wow, as I said before, pissing in the wind maybe, but it's a very, very, very, very slight possibility that some sanity will prevail. I never thought the day would come where I would be wishing for Kasich or Romney to be elected President.
Wow, as I said before, pissing in the wind maybe, but it's a very, very, very, very slight possibility that some sanity will prevail. I never thought the day would come where I would be wishing for Kasich or Romney to be elected President.
Thank you! I've been trying to get this across to several people I know. They keep insisting that he didn't actually mean it, but people still voted for him and they did mean it.
No it isn't. It is stating the utterly obvious, that sexism played a big part in the result. Even in the debates Hilary had to be careful not to take on Trump too aggressively the way that would have been seen as a strength in a man.
We know for sure that racism and xenophobia was a factor but that doesn't make a whole country's population racists/xenophobes.
Looks like we have a potential protester and fundraiser, stay busy funding the fake revolution, break as much shit as possible and send us pictures
So...you can't be arsed to address any of my actual points, then? I'm at least trying to do it with you.
Idea kind of goes to pot when you realise they're all fecking Democrats! They were refusing to vote for Clinton in the event of a narrow Dem win as well, bastards.
"He didn't mean it, calm down", "it was a one-off, it's a celebrity fad, won't happen again", "what's the worst he can do, we have a strong system". So dangerous.
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